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Dissecting Hillary's Win in West Virginia (Excellent analysis)
The National Review ^ | May 13, 2008

Posted on 05/14/2008 1:04:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ninety-five percent of Democratic primary voters in West Virginia today were white. About 70 percent of them did not have a college degree.

Among white voters without a college degree — largest demographic in the state — Hillary carried, 72 percent to 25 percent. She won white voters with a college degree, 55 percent to 41 percent.

Back of the envelope calculation gives Hillary a floor of 64.15 percent... winning by 29 points at least.

As discussed last Tuesday afternoon, the dominant voices in the press are ready to declare the race over. Last Tuesday night, we saw some of the most influential voices in television news (Russert, Stephanopolous) declare the primary over. Terry McAuliffe is complaining that 90 percent of the media are in the tank for Obama. (Welcome to the party, pal.)

You'll see the press, and Obama's surrogates (perhaps I repeat myself) insist that tonight's result means nothing, and indeed, in the delegate count, the effect is marginal. But superdelegates ought to be sweating. White working-class voters, and various overlapping demographics - the elderly, Catholics, Jews - just aren't warming up to Obama, and they've been the backbone for the party for generations. Liberal bloggers (and Saturday Night Live, and arguably the Washington Post) are responding by suggesting Hillary's supporters are racist; these people may not be so eager to vote for Obama in November as the pundits insist. Once you insult a voter by calling them racist, they may not be eager to meekly repent by doing as their moral betters in the pundit class demand.

Hillary Clinton is still the underdog, and she faces long odds to overcome Obama in the delegate and superdelegate fights. But the fact that anointed-nominee Obama couldn't make any traction in any key demographic in West Virginia ought to keep the superdelegates awake at night. And she will be invigorated by this win; landslide victories tend to do that. The exhausted mainstream media bigfoots tried to end this story one chapter too early.


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Barry will be the weaker candidate against McCain, IMO.
1 posted on 05/14/2008 1:04:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Barry will be the weaker candidate against McCain, IMO.

True. But because of the twenty something idiots he will turn out and the huge black vote, our down-ticket will take a serious beating with Obama as the candidate--the dems could lose the presidency but have a veto proof congress--not that McCain would veto bills passed by his buds across the aisle anyway.

I care much less about the presidential race than the down-ticket races. At least we have some conservatives running in the down ticket races.

2 posted on 05/14/2008 1:20:10 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She won by 41%, not 29%...WHAT A MASSACRE!! I mean, if THIS doesn’t wake up the super delegates, nothing will.

And though Hillary was “regal” and concilliatory towards Obama tonight in her speech, she knows as do most people I know that white Americans are not going to come out for Obama in the numbers he needs. Hillary could beat McCain, easily. Obama’s negatives are simply too high, now, contrary to what idiots like bootlicker Chris Matthews and Wolfie Blitzer.

If Hillary wins big in KY, look out! Because she’s gonna win big in Puerto Rico and might even pull off an upset in Oregon.


3 posted on 05/14/2008 1:25:02 AM PDT by levotb
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To: ModelBreaker

It’s a long time till the election. Hopefully idiots around my age will have lost interest by then.


4 posted on 05/14/2008 1:25:05 AM PDT by Impy (Obama, you are stupid and I don't like you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"Obama's chickens have come home to roost"

"...And they're pissed!"

5 posted on 05/14/2008 2:10:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: levotb

Dear God! If anyone wants anyone wants another Clinton in the White House, they are just plain brain dead. But I will concede, an Obama dude would be worse.


6 posted on 05/14/2008 2:15:27 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: ModelBreaker

“I care much less about the presidential race than the down-ticket races.”

I agree except for the issue of judges.

With Obama we will have a wave of liberal judges easily confirmed by a liberal Senate filling up the courts.

So we need to do what we can for all levels, down ticket and Presidential. It’s a holding action if nothing else.


7 posted on 05/14/2008 2:22:43 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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To: ChronicMA
I agree except for the issue of judges.

What about Iraq? Do you really want to have another situation where the U.S. abandons a country to whom it's pledged support?

8 posted on 05/14/2008 2:31:24 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Who's worried about the Bolsheviks? They couldn't be worse than the Tsar!)
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To: levotb

Haven’t you been reading the headlines about Clinton’s win in West Virginia? It’s a “symbolic” victory. If Obama hadn’t received one vote, they’d still call Clinton’s win “symbolic”. :-)

Obama will probably win Oregon. Have you seen numbers that show Clinton on the rise there?


10 posted on 05/14/2008 3:24:18 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Morgana

I was born and raised in WV. I’ve lived here all of my 56 years. I have no doubt the statistic is correct.


11 posted on 05/14/2008 3:27:00 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (John McCain has this habit of reminding conservatives why they've not been partial to him. (K-Lo))
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To: ModelBreaker
I care much less about the presidential race than the down-ticket races. At least we have some conservatives running in the down ticket races.

I've come to realize that the Dems care little about winning the Presidency. Congress controls the cash and as long as they can hold onto both houses they can spend as they wish and complain about how everything is the President's fault.

12 posted on 05/14/2008 3:40:24 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: DooDahhhh; Girlene

With respect, I don’t put much weight on WVa results. Boma is on his victory lap and did not elect to engage in the mountain State. This is like the winning team pulling its starters in the 4th quarter. Why bang up the real players? Why spent the money? On the other hand, Bill and Hillary and Chelsea are campaigning their evil butts off to land a spot on the ticket. We should try as hard as possible to stomp them down so they are truly history. Even if Boma gets in he will be ineffective. Too much the rookie. Congress would control and restrain him even if GOP lacks sufficient votes to sustain filibusters.


13 posted on 05/14/2008 3:54:42 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Once you insult a voter by calling them racist, they may not be eager to meekly repent by doing as their moral betters in the pundit class demand.”

That’s the part that the Obama camp is forgetting. If they insult voters by saying they have some moral obligation to vote for Obama then they will turn those voters away in droves.


14 posted on 05/14/2008 4:01:16 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama can't win unless The White Woman gives it to him!

Will Obama become the Affirmative Action Candidate, unable to achieve the winning number of delegates on his own?

15 posted on 05/14/2008 4:02:20 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: DooDahhhh
Dear God! If anyone wants anyone wants another Clinton in the White House, they are just plain brain dead. But I will concede, an Obama dude would be worse.

No, he would not. Obama is a leftist, but he's got no experience at the Presidential level. He'd make rookie mistakes along with trying to implement leftist policies. Definitely not good. Her Heinous, though, is a leftist with experience at the Presidential level. That makes her infinitely more dangerous because she's seen how to do things and how not to do things. Her governing manner is going to be the Begala credo at a minimum:

"Stroke of the pen. Law of the land. Kinda cool."

16 posted on 05/14/2008 4:06:44 AM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Once you insult a voter by calling them racist, they may not be eager to meekly repent by doing as their moral betters in the pundit class demand.”

Good analysis and a very good point about calling the voters racist.


17 posted on 05/14/2008 4:12:18 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Dahoser

I say stop her now, but how?? She is going to try to dive into the VP slot and who knows what will happen to Obamamama!


18 posted on 05/14/2008 4:23:31 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: shalom aleichem

With respect back I see it differently. Obama didn’t campaign in WVa because he knew he had no shot of winning. Obama’s base is black, white elites, and the youth vote. He doesn’t sit well with white rural, suburban, union, less liberal democrats. (Thank you Rev. Wright.)

I don’t think a democrat Congress would control or restrain either one of them from turning this country farther left. Either way, Obama has a problem with a democrat base that his supporters, to include the media, are trying to keep quiet. West Virginia voters had the knowledge that Obama was the presumptive nominee. They sent him a message by 40 some points they don’t agree with their nominee.


19 posted on 05/14/2008 4:27:58 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does that mean you are a Real enthusiastic supporter for John McCain who is for Higher taxes and fees to fight Global Warming ? I am so excited I cant wait to vote for him ,I mean I am about to Puke


20 posted on 05/14/2008 4:39:45 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Ramcat
I've come to realize that the Dems care little about winning the Presidency. Congress controls the cash and as long as they can hold onto both houses they can spend as they wish and complain about how everything is the President's fault.
"Little" might be an overstatement, but I have to think you have a point - any Republican always is so concerned over foreign/military affairs that he never has much political capital left from those battles to use to hold down spending.

21 posted on 05/14/2008 4:51:50 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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To: Girlene
If McCain or his advisers are smart, they will use Richard Nixon's 1972 playbook and not Karl Rove's early 2000s one to win the general election. In 1972, Nixon made significant breakthroughs with certain demographics similar to those where Hillary is strong - rural and blue collar whites in the inland Northeast, the Great Lakes, the Ohio Valley, and Appalachia. Nixon also picked up more Jewish votes than any other GOP Presidential candidate since Warren Harding. (His fierce anti-Semitism was not publicly known at the time.)

However, McCain will need a Spiro Agnew to throw some rhetorical red meat to conservatives. Perhaps Mike Huckabee will fill the bill.

22 posted on 05/14/2008 5:04:49 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Would someone please make the point that these are two democrats running against each other, not against a republican? They are splitting the votes of democrats, not, as Hillary claims, demonstrating that she can win the big states. Except for Limbaugh’s egoism, they have not begun to tally the votes of the opposition. That will wait for November, and if history is any guide Democrats will vote for their nominee an republicans will do the same.


23 posted on 05/14/2008 5:14:49 AM PDT by billhilly (I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
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To: Wallace T.
Huckabee?

You mean open borders Huckabee? Global warming Huckabee? The Huckabee who talks to God and substutites his feelings for the rule of law? The Huckabee who p*sses on Mormons and denegrates Catholics as second class Christians?

All Obama has to do is nominate a faux Mormon like Harry Reid or a so-called pro-life Catholic like Bob Casey Jr. and he can beat McCain like a drum with Hucksterbee on the ticket.

24 posted on 05/14/2008 5:20:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: Morgana
Did you vote in the DEMOCRAT primary?
25 posted on 05/14/2008 5:20:45 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DooDahhhh
They all are the same. Hillary's affect and entitlement make me think “sociopath.” I am hoping for a miracle. With McCain looking feeble as Cindy helped him off Cindy's private corporate jet and talking as if about to collapse, he may not make it to August, and the Republicans will nominate somebody normal.
26 posted on 05/14/2008 5:22:45 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: billhilly
Truth be told there are three rats running, obama, hillary and mccain. Yes, the democratic ticket is btw o/h and these two will split the rat ticket and we are seeing that demo ticket candidates will divide (hopefully) democrat party once and for all.

McCain is no better.
27 posted on 05/14/2008 5:25:48 AM PDT by Strutt9
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To: Vigilanteman
I'm far from a Huckabee fan; his record as Governor of Arkansas was not conservative. His anti-Mormon statements are not a major problem because the main Mormon strongholds of Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming have not supported a Democrat since 1964. The GOP regards the Mormon vote the way the Democrats do the black vote. I am not aware of any anti-Catholic statements Huckabee made, although one of his vocal supporters, John Hagee, has made some anti-Catholic remarks, especially in connection with the role of the Catholic Church in the Holocaust. Even so, Hagee is not as anti-Catholic as Jeremiah Wright is obsessively anti-white. And Huckabee was never a member of Hagee’s congregation.
28 posted on 05/14/2008 5:36:34 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; P-Marlowe

I agree.

The democrats are following the media/Obama piper right over the cliff.

If the MSM is aware of it, it can only mean that they truly desire a McCain presidency.....that there’s something they want that they’ll get out of it.

McCain + blue-collar democrats = a McCain victory.


29 posted on 05/14/2008 5:44:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hillary Clinton is still the underdog, and she faces long odds to overcome Obama in the delegate and superdelegate fights.

Indeed. Just this morning another super delegate, congressman Pete Visclosky of Indiana, announced for Obama.

Hillary's head must be exploding.
30 posted on 05/14/2008 5:55:30 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: BartMan1; Forecaster

ping


31 posted on 05/14/2008 6:19:35 AM PDT by IncPen (The liberal's reward is self-disgust)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

W is for the war I’ll end it
H means healthcare fix (think soylent green)
I is for your income, who’s to spend it?
T for taxes picking your bones clean
E is for entitlements for everyone
(I have one myself: to be your queen!)

Put them all together they spell working,
Hardworking, you know, WHITE voters love me!


32 posted on 05/14/2008 6:31:17 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Girlene

Hillary is not far enough left for Oregon and Washington. They don’t trust her not to move toward the center once she would secure the nomination. The Seattle World Trade Meeting and NAFTA finished the Clintons with the far left, not to mention Hillary’s support of the war. They also didn’t like the weak support that the Clintons gave Al Gore.

This is Obama and Ron Paul country.


33 posted on 05/14/2008 6:38:07 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Black and Liberal spokespeople continually rail against racism in America. Why should we be surprised when some folks act out in their voting.

Unspoken in Dem back rooms right now is their fear of the Bradley Effect theory which arose when Tom Bradley lost an election in Liberal California which appeared he would win handily.

The BRADLEY EFFECT:
The theory suggests that statistically significant numbers of white voters tell pollsters in advance of an election that they are either undecided, or likely to vote for the non-white candidate, but that those voters exhibit a different behavior when actually casting their ballots. White voters who said that they were undecided break in statistically large numbers toward the white candidate, and many of the white voters who said that they were likely to vote for the non-white candidate ultimately cast their ballot for the white candidate.


34 posted on 05/14/2008 6:48:27 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Morgana
Dear Morgana,

Only about 25% of the adult population over the age of 25 has a four-year college degree. Thus, that 30% of primary voters had college degrees means that they were slightly better educated than the population as a whole.


sitetest

35 posted on 05/14/2008 7:03:54 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ninety-five percent of Democratic primary voters in West Virginia today were white.

MAKE YOUR VOTE, COUNTRY FOLK
Tune: "Take Me Home, Country Roads" Original
By Winn Denver

Almost landslide, West Virginia
Numbers mountin', headin' on to Denver
Folks are white here, whiter than the sheets
That the early Byrd wore, blowin' in the breeze

Country folk, make your vote
For the race you belong
Mrs. Clinton, not Obama
Make your vote, country folk

All my prim'ries dare not end here
My election's set for this November
Dark and dusky stranger on the rise
Mustn't let him beat me, take away my prize

Country folk, make your vote
For the race you belong
Mrs. Clinton, not Obama
Make your vote, country folk

I hear your voice, in the evenin' hours you cheer me
This victory assures me that I'm queen for a day
And standin' on the stage
I get a feeling that this Wheeling's all the U.S.A.
U.S.A.

Country folk, make your vote
For the race you belong
Mrs. Clinton, not Obama
Make your vote, country folk . . .

36 posted on 05/14/2008 7:23:02 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (The wag tailoring the doggerel)
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To: ModelBreaker
...our down-ticket will take a serious beating...

That is an understatement!

McPain has got to be the luckiest man alive. He won a primary he had no business winning, and then he is likely to eke out a general election that no Republican had any business winning.

The black and loony leftist base of the rat party will turn out in droves in the Fall. The coalition of blue-collar dems, independents, and deflated GOP base should be just enough to put McPain ahead of the black/loony left hordes that will turn out for Osama. HOWEVER, those blue-collar dems and independents will absolutely NOT be voting GOP down ticket, and McPain will be elected President with a HUGE rat majority in Congress.

And for Senor Juan -- that would be a success beyond his wildest dreams!

37 posted on 05/14/2008 7:26:45 AM PDT by rhinohunter (Welcome back to the GOP "glory" days of Gerald Ford and Bob Michel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This will be interesting to see how it plays out. White people don’t like Obama (and for good reason) Conservatives don’t like McCain (and for good reason).

So whoever is despised less, wins.


38 posted on 05/14/2008 7:27:45 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dissecting Hillary's Win in West Virginia (Excellent analysis)

Hillary Voter Breakdown:

Sorry no offense, but there must be a reason WV is the butt of jokes.
39 posted on 05/14/2008 7:42:34 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: ModelBreaker
Barry will be the weaker candidate against McCain, IMO.
True. But because of the twenty something idiots he will turn out and the huge black vote, our down-ticket will take a serious beating with Obama as the candidate--the dems could lose the presidency but have a veto proof congress--not that McCain would veto bills passed by his buds across the aisle anyway.
With Hillary winning over 70% of the vote in WVa, the logical role which the superdelegates are designed to play is to swing the nomination to the stronger opponent of McCain - Hillary.

But for the superdelegates to do that now - after Obama has already been anointed by the the media as the presumptive nominee - would be to tempt a replay in Denver of Chicago 1968 - and the splitting off of the solid black vote from the Democratic Party to a third party. The maximum objective of Operation Chaos!

Those super delegates have a real problem!


40 posted on 05/14/2008 7:53:05 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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To: ModelBreaker
Re my #40:
Those super delegates have a real problem!
Actually, they have an easy out. They can always nominate McCain on the Democratic ticket. Except for minor things like his being pro life and pro victory . . .

41 posted on 05/14/2008 7:59:23 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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To: rhinohunter
I think your analysis is right on the mark. With Obama failing as he is now, I can see Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, and maybe even Michigan and New Jersey going for McCain. I just hope that he holds off this last charge by Hillary and ends up as the nominee. I can never understand why so many on this site would rather run against her when Obama is clearly the weaker candidate.
42 posted on 05/14/2008 8:04:33 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: Brett66

“White people don’t like Obama”

But educated, young black people don’t like Hillary.
And young white metros like Obama.

The Dims are split, they are in a no-win situation.


43 posted on 05/14/2008 8:06:23 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: ModelBreaker

Twenty-something idiots and blacks was essentially what the McGovern coalition was made up of. Lot of good it did him.


44 posted on 05/14/2008 9:27:02 AM PDT by Wyoming Cowboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
White working-class voters, and various overlapping demographics - the elderly, Catholics, Jews - just aren't warming up to Obama, and they've been the backbone for the party for generations.

The Dem's backbone doesn't like their (presumptive) candidate and the Republican's backbone doesn't like theirs either. This election is a mess and we're screwed, no matter who wins.
45 posted on 05/14/2008 10:29:01 AM PDT by CottonBall (A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority. "Civil Disobedience", Henry D.Thoreau)
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To: aegiscg47
I can never understand why so many on this site would rather run against her when Obama is clearly the weaker candidate.

Because if for some reason he actually won in November, he would be the much, much worse President. Clinton would move center, just like Bill did in order to get re-elected. 'bama wouldn't. And naive, inexperienced and arrogant is a very dangerous combination in a President.

46 posted on 05/14/2008 10:32:37 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Morgana
I think they have that assbackwards...70% went to college and it was either Marshall or WVU.

Perhaps it's the group you work and associate with that has a 70% rate for college degrees. It's pretty typical of most places that somewhere between 20-35% have degrees. Looks like WV is actually on the higher end of the spectrum.

This is from census 2005 data site

The Northeast had the highest proportion of college graduates (30.9 percent), followed by the West (30.2 percent), the Midwest (26.0 percent) and the South (25.5 percent).
47 posted on 05/14/2008 10:37:46 AM PDT by CottonBall (A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority. "Civil Disobedience", Henry D.Thoreau)
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To: Condor51
Sorry no offense, but there must be a reason WV is the butt of jokes.

Hey, don't insult my retirement state! I can't wait to get out of Mexifornia and back to the U.S. And from the stats, WV and a handful of other states will be the only ones to resemble the US in another 20-25 years. In fact, that's probably true today.

Heavily forested, mountainous, rural, uninvaded - sounds perfect to me!
48 posted on 05/14/2008 10:43:46 AM PDT by CottonBall (A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority. "Civil Disobedience", Henry D.Thoreau)
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To: rhinohunter
McPain will be elected President with a HUGE rat majority in Congress.

I'd bet he's giddy now thinking of all the liberal legislation he can pass for the Dems.
49 posted on 05/14/2008 10:47:21 AM PDT by CottonBall (A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority. "Civil Disobedience", Henry D.Thoreau)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

West Virginia must have a LOT of RACISTS!! Obama should have been MUCH closer.


50 posted on 05/14/2008 1:13:01 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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