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Death toll in China earthquake rises to 8,533 [Photos]
Yahoo! AP ^ | 5/12/2008

Posted on 05/12/2008 8:47:42 AM PDT by charles m

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To: PugetSoundSoldier

So what’s your point? Because nobody’s perfect therefore we’re all the same?


41 posted on 05/12/2008 10:44:33 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

I think that was exactly what he was saying. “I love Big Brother!”


42 posted on 05/12/2008 10:54:02 AM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; rogue yam
rogue yam: the Chinese people and leaders will hate us with an intensity that we cannot even imagine

Yes, I am aware that that is one possible future:

Importing Sino-Fascism?
http://www.vdare.com/asp/printPage.asp?url=http://www.vdare.com/derbyshire/sino-fascism.htm
PugetSoundSoldier: Our future does have a strong inter-dependency with China; it’s best if we recognize that now and manage the relationship with our own interests firmly in place.

But there is another possible future which we can be hoping for:

Jesus in Beijing: How Christianity Is Changing the Global Balance of Power
by David Aikman
October 25, 2003
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0895261286/

Christianity finds a fulcrum in Asia
By Spengler
Aug 7, 2007
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/IH07Ad03.html


43 posted on 05/12/2008 11:05:48 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: charles m

7.8 Earthquake Shakes Southern China; Death Toll Nears 10,000

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/8-5-12/70578.html


44 posted on 05/12/2008 11:09:50 AM PDT by stlnative
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A general view shows a collapsed hospital after an earthquake in Dujiangyan, Sichuan province May 12, 2008. REUTERS/Stringer

CORRECTING LOCATION PICTURE WAS TAKEN An injured student cries while receiving medical checks near the debris of a collapsed building at a primary school at Liangping County after an earthquake in Chongqing municipality, May 12, 2008. REUTERS/Stringer


45 posted on 05/12/2008 12:55:47 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: earthykid
I am so sorry. So very sorry. If you can find a way to help directly, I'm sure we would all like to. I just refuse to go through a government that picks and chooses who lives and who dies on the basis of fascist mentality.

I assume the International Red Cross would be a start — so long as they don't charge the recipients of aid. Again, hope all you know and love are safe.

46 posted on 05/12/2008 1:02:24 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: charles m
My sincere prayers up for the entire region.

That was a hell of a quake.

47 posted on 05/12/2008 1:21:43 PM PDT by Alia
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To: earthykid
That is really bad.
i am sorry.
48 posted on 05/12/2008 1:26:25 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: earthykid

Considering the number of people in the area, I would say 60k is a low number. 100k is more like it. It’s a terrible tragedy


49 posted on 05/12/2008 1:33:10 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: charles m

This was a BIG earthquake.
I’m nervous here in LA.


50 posted on 05/12/2008 1:35:00 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: charles m
cyclone in burma, killer earthquake in china

id say god's REALLY pissed off

51 posted on 05/12/2008 1:35:44 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Ok....the tigers need to knock it off with the should win/could win games.....)
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To: r9etb

Never seen a disaster like this in Texas. I’d like to think it would be a little more orderly here everywhere else especially when shoerting looters is practically encouraged here.


52 posted on 05/12/2008 2:12:31 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Russia is completely irrational and the biggest threat we’re going to face over the next few decades

And you an idiot or do you do imitations as theatre? Islam is the most dangerous threat to us over the next few decades. The Soviets could be counted to understand MAD. Muslim orcs with nukes will look forward to the retaliation in order to strike.

53 posted on 05/12/2008 2:16:14 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Russia is completely irrational and the biggest threat we’re going to face over the next few decades

And you an idiot or do you do imitations as theatre? Islam is the most dangerous threat to us over the next few decades. The Soviets could be counted to understand MAD. Muslim orcs with nukes will look forward to the retaliation in order to strike.

54 posted on 05/12/2008 2:16:16 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: Centurion2000
And you an idiot or do you do imitations as theatre? Islam is the most dangerous threat to us over the next few decades. The Soviets could be counted to understand MAD. Muslim orcs with nukes will look forward to the retaliation in order to strike.

Muslims can't kill us by the hundreds of millions. The Russians can. Desire and capability are different things.

55 posted on 05/12/2008 2:43:17 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: rogue yam

My point is that it’s human nature to put yourself, your family, and your country first. That shouldn’t be something feared - we all do it. Or is nationalism and being a xenophobe only OK when it’s the US that does it?

We should put those aside when it comes to figuring out how to balance power in the coming century.


56 posted on 05/12/2008 2:59:21 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Centurion2000

Where do you think they get most of the nuclear materials and technology? It’s predominantly from the ex Soviet states.

For your information, there is no longer a Soviet Union - we can’t count on the Soviets, they don’t exist. Instead we have whack-jobs like Berdimuhammedow in Turkmenistan; Masimov in Kazakhstan, and many more. Putin is ruling Russia (nothing like the ex KGB taking over) and making more money than you can imagine off of GAZPROM.

Islam is definitely a problem, but they’re getting their supplies - and a goodly chunk of money - from Russia and the satellites around it. I’ll look at who’s equipping, training, and funding the troops not just who the troops are...


57 posted on 05/12/2008 3:03:23 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Reading some of the comments from the Obama camp - and a few around FR recently - show we also have our racist, nationalistic, chauvanistic, xenophobic, and resentful side, too...

A majority of the Chinese I have spoken to have asserted gleefully that we deserved the 3000 dead we sustained on 9/11. I can't think of too many Americans who would cheer at the deaths of thousands of Chinese in a terror attack. Russia's not exactly been a great friend, and we were horrified at the Beslan attacks.

58 posted on 05/12/2008 3:06:47 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei
A majority of the Chinese I have spoken to have asserted gleefully that we deserved the 3000 dead we sustained on 9/11.

Not those with whom I have spoken. You write as if we are AT WAR with China. The people there are not 'the government'. Don't you think they want to be free of the oppression of Communism? Remember Tienanmen Square? Would you have that same courage?

I can't think of too many Americans who would cheer at the deaths of thousands of Chinese in a terror attack.

The ridicule posted here at FR is essentially cheering about their tragedy. Do you think that to be a Conservative American means you aren't allowed to show compassion for humanity?

59 posted on 05/12/2008 3:50:08 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: JACKRUSSELL; TigerLikesRooster

How awful. I can only hope that the death toll doesn’t rise much higher.


60 posted on 05/12/2008 4:28:48 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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