Posted on 04/30/2008 7:10:12 AM PDT by NavVet
I wanted to share a couple of observations about the Wright / Obama train wreck that I'm not sure have been addressed by the media. Mort Knodrake (Fox News), among others, recently commented that there are only two explanations for the fact that Obama spent the last twenty years filling a pew in Wright's Church and putting large checks in the collection plate: 1. Obama is hoplessly naive and in spite of a twenty + year close personal relationship with Wright, Obama was nevertheless clueless about the nature of the man, or 2. Obama knew from the beginning what Wright stood for, but joined the church as a political calculation designed to build "street cred." in the black community.
I would argue there is a third possibility.
As disturbing as it is to contemplate, Obama may have joined Wright's Church and stayed a member for over twenty years, because he did agree with the hate filled sermons Wright delivered each Sunday. The reason, I think we have to consider the possibility that Obama believes many of the things Wright believes is that I the other two possibilities don't stand up to close scrutiny.
With regard to the argument that Obama was simply Naive or clueless for the last 20 years. Nobody is that naive or that stupid. You may not have to be a rocket scientist to be the editor of the Harvard Law Review; however, it is some evidence that you are not a complete idiot. Also, the fact that Obama disinvited Wright from his 2007 "announcement" that he was running for president suggest that Obama knew the reaction that Wright would provoke if he shared a stage with Obama.
With regard to the argument that Obama doesn't share any of Wright's views, but only attended his church as a matter of political expediency. This might be a plausible argument if Obama attended Wright's church by himself. However, I can not believe that any father would expose his children to such racist, hate filled rants during their formative years, if he did not want to impart those values to his children. After all, we all take our children to Church, at least in part, for the purpose of imparting the values of the Church to our children.
Therefore the fact that Obama took his children to that church Sunday after Sunday, combined with the assumption that Obama would never sacrifice his own children for mere "political expediency", suggest that Obama must have agreed with Wright in large measure and that Wright's lessons were ones that Obama wanted his children to learn.
Another point that apprently the mainstream media is afraid to address is the most disturbing part of the video of Wright's sermons is not the hate filled rants themselves, but rather the multitude of faces in the pews nodding in agreement, without one visible expression of outrage or disbelief. Similarly, the fact that Wright's lunatic ravings at the NAACP meeting in Detroit, was met with applause not jeers is more troubling that Wright's actual words. I guess it all comes down to supply and demand. If there were not a demand for such hate, Wright would not be supplying it. It is the positive reaction to Wright's hate filled sermons that makes me think that maybe we haven't come as far as a society in the last 150 years, as I would like to believe we have.
Thanks so much. I'll post the link as soon as I get it posted!
In that article from the International Tribune that I have linked time and again, Rev. Wright explained that Obama was “unchurched” when he met him, and that he told Obama that he would be a lot more effective working from within a church base. (This is the whole premise for Liberation Theology, organize Christians from within their own experience)Wright explained to Obama some of the premises of behind Liberatin Theology and the reasons that it was a perfect place for apostate Muslims and former gang members.
Now, you have to read between the lines to understand this and you have to know something about Liberation Theology. What Wright was saying is that you don’t have to believe in the spiritual side of Christianity to embrace the inspirational side. That’s what Obama did.
Obama clearly thought of Trinity as a praxis, an organizational praxis that helped bring Black people together behind one unified history. This is also the link to Islam. They believe that they have a common history with the African Muslims and a common enemy. It’s the old enemy of my enemy is my friend routine. Obama was hearing Wright, but he wasn’t listening to anything that he didn’t agree with. Obama just didn’t take that part seriously. He didn’t think that Wright took it seriously, either.
And the MSM never will--as Obama is still their dream candidate.
Someone in the MSM has to demand that Obama address the permanent damage that is done to the next generation of black youth by the poisoning of their minds with that hateful, racist garbage (and why he was, and still is, totally complicit). And then some wonder why so many black youth end up in jail?? How about this 'indoctrination' by black leaders--of perpetual victimization by white people AND by the government for starters??
And yet Obama attended these sessions,,,,and did nothing. Said nothing.
And he still has NOT addressed that damage. He has said nothing. Absolutely nothing. THAT is the real outrage.
Excellent post! I do believe that Obama shares Wright’s beliefs and core values. He had to denounce in public, but if Obama does happen to become President he would most likely pull Wright back in the fold as his most important and trusted advisor. God forbid he does become President!
Gramma must have told him to look both ways. But like all good sons, he threw her under the bus! (Sorry...but I just can't get over that).
Were never going to know for sure what Obama believes since I doubt he will ever tell us the absolute truth. What we do know is that he didn’t mind bringing his children to a church of hate. And we do know what he has said in the past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs
Of course. He papers it over, but if you read between the lines in his books, or follow what he has to say about his mother and his grandmother, you know he is a black power extremist and that he hates and despises whites.
Sure, he could have made an acquaintance of Rev. Wright for political reasons, but no one in his right mind would sit in church and listen to sermons like that unless they enjoyed them. There are plenty of other black churches in Chicago, but that was the one that suited Obama and, I would add, Michelle. They also liked it because it was pro-abortion, sympathetic to Muslims, and not really Christian in any meaningful sense.
Does anyone think for a minute that Michelle would have put up with it unless she, too, liked it?
Obama is the stealth candidate. His mission is to destroy America and destroy white supremacy, as he thinks of it, but to do so by means of an old Islamic and/or Communist trick—lying to the enemy.
There have been several reports that members of the church are now saying they've never seen or heard Wright act the way he did at the National Press Club, just like Obama. It makes no difference we've all seen the tapes of his rants and their full, enthusiastic support of them.
That is the thing that disturbs me the most, the possibility that our next president has the same views as Wright!
I am frustrated that no one on the news says that! How do we know what Obama believes? The obvious is that he does believe that!
Good analysis. To tell you the truth, the more I see of Obama and the bunch he has drug into the limelight, the more I feel like I am watching a kind of ugly and perverse Amos & Andy Show — with the Rev. Jeremiah “Kingfish” Wright, Andy “The Media” Brown, Michelle “Sapphire” Obama, a rather sinister and devious Barack “Amos” Obama — and, of course, Kingfish Wright’s entire “Knights of the Mystic Sea Church” yelling and screaming in ecstasy every time he attacks another evil American, Italian, Jew, or honky (while Amos nods in solemn approval).
I’ve heard them bring it up but only that it would be ridiculous to be taken as a serious possibility. They say there is nothing in his past that would support that. Apparently 20 years in attendance, a book written based on one of Wright’s sermons, Obama claiming Wright as his spiritual mentor (which they continue to ignore), his marriage and children’s baptisms, are not part of Obama’s past.
Especially Chrissy "Mr. Tingly Legs" Matthews hissef.
BO saying he doesn't agree with what the “Rev” Wrong said is like an alcoholic drinking for 20+ years and saying he/she does not like booze
OR
a druggie smoking marijuana for the past 20+ years and that dopehead saying he/she doesn't like dope.
BO is full of Bovine excrement.
If we believe any of the scenarios given the logical
conclusion is Obama is an incompetent fool.
The Wright phiosophy appears to be the outcome
of 40 years of liberal victim ideaology. The
perniscious attitude of so many Afro Americans
justifying the extreme language of Wright is
frightening.
Too bad Mit Romney never got the benefit of a doubt
being a Mormon. He got a daily exam by the MSM.
Wright and Obama are given a pass and in fact of the
anti American diatribe by the Reverend!
Can't disagree....but I think all dems are incredulous so what's new.
Not having read Obama’s Mein Kampf, I’m wondering: Was Obama saying he agreed or disagreed with Malcolm X?
Excellent. I’d say we have ourselves a show.
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