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Ancient Global Dimming Linked to Volcanic Eruption (The Dark Ages)
National Geographic News ^ | 3-19-2008 | Ker Than

Posted on 03/19/2008 2:36:03 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 03/19/2008 2:36:05 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG & Catastrophism Ping. (BTW, we're all gonna die)

The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?

2 posted on 03/19/2008 2:38:02 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Light Pollution Reduction Initiative !


3 posted on 03/19/2008 2:41:46 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: blam
"Global Ashfall".

Only a few letter off of what I think of Al Gore and his ilk.

4 posted on 03/19/2008 2:42:29 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: blam

Ping for after choir.


5 posted on 03/19/2008 2:45:39 PM PDT by stayathomemom
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To: blam

It’s quite intersting how many ways man or nature could conspire to knock 100 - 200 years of technology right out from under us. Or kill off 50% of the human race in a few years.


6 posted on 03/19/2008 2:46:24 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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So where is the caldera? A crater larger than Tambora between 23N and 23S can’t be that hard to find.


7 posted on 03/19/2008 2:48:24 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: blam

Ring around the rosie, pocket full of posies, ashfall, ashfall, we all fall down....
susie


8 posted on 03/19/2008 2:48:51 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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OK, smart guys, WHERE WAS THE VOLCANO?

Something of this magnitude could not have happened without leaving some serious clues as to its origin. Or perhaps it was an undersea eruption, maybe somewhere in the Bering Sea?


9 posted on 03/19/2008 2:51:26 PM PDT by alloysteel (No provision for ANY political party was ever written in the Constitution)
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To: blam

Interesting post - thanks!


10 posted on 03/19/2008 2:52:25 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To make matters worse, there is practically nothing humans can do to prevent such a catastrophe from happening again—or to lessen its effects.

Wait, I thought that driving around SUVs jacked up the temperature by many degrees. Now they say that there is nothing we can do to prevent the earth from cooling in case of a major volcanic eruption? I'm confused.

What is the expected rate of major volcanic eruptions per century? Is there any chance that we are below that rate which would account for any warming? I think Krakatoa in 1883 was the last one which had a major world wide effect on climate.

11 posted on 03/19/2008 2:53:00 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: blam

The book about this event is “Catastrophe”, written back aways. The author thinks the volcanoe that blew was in the area where Krakatau is now, and argued the eruption severed Java from Sumatra and created the Sunda Straits.


12 posted on 03/19/2008 2:54:00 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: blam

Carrier pigeons darkened the sky and buffalo darkened the prairie and ate all the corn.


13 posted on 03/19/2008 2:54:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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Well, the abstract for the paper doesn’t say anything about candidate volcanoes. I’ll have to read the whole thing when I stop by the library.

Krakatau was proposed as a candidate and a PBS documentary made about “Catastrophe” but it’s not generally accepted.

I think there are some other 535 candidates, wikipedia mentions Rabaul caldera in the Solomons as a candidate.


14 posted on 03/19/2008 3:22:57 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: willgolfforfood
THe duration of the catastrophe depended on where you were. In Northern and Western Europe the disruption set in motion events that resulted in just about 1,000 years of primitive survivalism.

China suffered for about 300 years. Byzentium was down for the count for at least 80 years.

Other areas, e.g. the realm of the Arabs who looked to Mecca for economic direction, didn't notice anything had gone wrong (relative to their earlier condition). They ended up conquering pretty much the rest of remaining civilization.

There were losses beyond imagining ~ for example, Michaelangelo was the first artist in a millenum who could produce sculpture the equal of the best produced by sculptors in Classical Times.

That's how much knowledge of that particular technology (sculpting) that had been lost.

15 posted on 03/19/2008 3:26:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam; xcamel; SunkenCiv; neverdem; Old_Professor; Reform Canada
Odd.

A global catastrophe story that does NOT mention “global warming” ...

Oh. I see.

That's because it shows that climate changed naturally BEFORE us evil American capitalists spoiled the earth and killed all living things.

A global climate story that does NOT mention CO2 levels.

Oh. I see.

That's because it shows more evidence of (short-term) cooling in the Dark Ages, BEFORE the US emitted all those evil pollutants. (Of course, the LONG-TERM role of the varying solar output that actually CAUSED the Dark Ages, Medieval Warm Period, and Little Ice Age ARE NOT mentioned.

16 posted on 03/19/2008 3:36:06 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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Bush’s great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather’s fault.


17 posted on 03/19/2008 3:49:41 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Go to Hell, Dook!)
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To: blam

Thanks much for the post. As to where the supervolcano might have been ... the Gulf of Mexico, and in fact the whole of the Caribbean, seems to have a caldera shape. Any geologic studies been done on that, other than the possible meteor strike near the Yucatan peninsula?


18 posted on 03/19/2008 3:54:44 PM PDT by Wombat Ark
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I wish them luck, getting really crowded with volcanoes out there, the more we look the more we find.


19 posted on 03/19/2008 4:05:05 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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“...the Bering Sea...”

That’s what I was thinking, somewhere in the northwest portion of North America. A sample of the ash is probably sitting in a storage drawer of some University in either Canada or the U.S.


20 posted on 03/19/2008 4:09:38 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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