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Scavenging to survive in Pasadena (Illegal immigrant sob story)
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-collector12mar12,1,2657370,full.story ^

Posted on 03/13/2008 5:48:50 PM PDT by World_Events

It's not yet 3 a.m. Juana Rivas grabs her shopping cart and steps off the curb into the dark.She shields herself from the cold with a sweat shirt and jacket, along with a pink hat and gloves she bought at the 99-cent store. Only a barking dog interrupts the silence.

Rivas arrives at the first house, lifts the trash can lid and shines her flashlight inside. Nothing. "No hay. No hay," she says in Spanish.

She peers into another trash can. Nothing. She zigzags back and forth across the street, stopping at each house to search for aluminum cans, glass bottles, plastic containers, anything she can exchange for money at the local recycling center. She reaches inside and shakes the contents, listening for the telltale clink of a beer bottle or the hollow tap of a milk carton. Nothing.

She starts to feel anxious. Her husband and four children are depending on her. The $2,300 rent check on their Pasadena home is due in one week. She already asked for an extension on the gas. The cable and the phone have been disconnected.

Rivas knows what people think, that she digs through her neighbors' trash to make money for drugs or alcohol. She knows what people call her -- scavenger, digger, thief.

"There are people who look at me like, 'You aren't worth anything. You aren't anybody,' " she said.

For 13 years, she says, she has collected cans and bottles "to pay my rent, my bills. I do it out of necessity."

She has looked for more stable jobs, including cleaning offices at night. But nowadays, more companies are asking for immigration papers, papers she doesn't have.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; illegalentrants; sobstory

1 posted on 03/13/2008 5:48:50 PM PDT by World_Events
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To: World_Events
Scavenging to survive in Pasadena (Illegal immigrant sob story)

Remind me...aren't these the folks that McCain, Dubya, Kennedy, etc.
tell us are going to improve the USA...

(/sarc)
2 posted on 03/13/2008 5:52:28 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

I thought this practice was called recycling or freecycling, and to be encouraged by liberals.


3 posted on 03/13/2008 5:57:08 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: World_Events

Some sob story. She’s stealing $20 to $25 thousand a year from the city’s recycling profit. When she gets hurt from stealing, she goes to the ER for free medical service. Boo-frickity-hoo


4 posted on 03/13/2008 5:57:23 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: World_Events

Shes been here for 13 years and can’t speach english?

Wonder why she can’t find a job?


5 posted on 03/13/2008 6:01:40 PM PDT by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: World_Events
I'm sorry, but my sympathy gland just isn't working today.

She's here illegally...pays $2300 per month for rent...doesn't say how much money she makes and expects someone else to pay it.

She must be a DemocRAT!

6 posted on 03/13/2008 6:03:55 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: World_Events

“nowadays, more companies are asking for immigration papers, papers she doesn’t have.”

She’s looking for work in the wrong damn country. I’ve had it with these whiney liberals attempting to invoke sympathy for the “plight” of “undocumented workers”.

She’s got a rent payment of $2,300 a month? How on earth has her illegal family been sustaining that, pray tell?

Has uncle Juan back home in Mexico been paying it, or have they been sucking dollars out of our tax base and taking jobs away from American citizens?

Never mind. I think we know that answer.

Thank God the LA Times is about to go under. They promote the sell-out of our country at the most fundamental levels, and then wonder why the circulation is continuously falling. Morons...

If they think they’re pulling the majority’s heartstrings with this treasonous piece of clap-trap, they’re as out of their ever lovin minds as we’ve suspected.


7 posted on 03/13/2008 6:08:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: World_Events
Rivas is part of...the hundreds of thousands of immigrants...making money at the margins and paying few if any taxes.

Bold emphasis mine.

For obvious reasons.

And I'm surprised that the libtard wannabe journalist that penned this tripe would include that in the story.

8 posted on 03/13/2008 6:09:39 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: World_Events

Uhh...$2300 a month for rent? Cable and phone? 3 men working? Cryng a freakin’ river! Get the F out of my country!


9 posted on 03/13/2008 6:10:01 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: World_Events

Her rent is more than I net in a month and she’s fracking COMPLAINING? GO BACK TO MEXICO DUMBASS.


10 posted on 03/13/2008 6:13:55 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us nature wallpapers)
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To: Windflier
She’s got a rent payment of $2,300 a month?

Interesting.

One wonders exactly what that amount buys per month.

My mortgage payment on 6 bedrooms, three baths, living room, den, dining and game room and two car carport, sitting on 40 acres is just a little more than a third of that amount.

'Course, I'm in Alabama and she's in Californicate, but still...

11 posted on 03/13/2008 6:14:43 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: World_Events

Nothing pissed me off more, while living in Los Angeles, than scavengers going through the dumpsters and recycle bins at all hours of the night. They make so much noise going through it all then make even more noise dragging it off. I quit recycling a few weeks ago because the recycle pickup guys started leaving me notes that everything that I always recycled in the past are “not recyclable items” - plastic water bottles, etc. Now everything just goes in the trash.


12 posted on 03/13/2008 6:15:57 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: OldSmaj

“My mortgage payment on 6 bedrooms, three baths, living room, den, dining and game room and two car carport, sitting on 40 acres is just a little more than a third of that amount.”

Braggart! LOL

One of the reasons we moved the family from Cali to Texas was the affordability of the real estate. Folks back home still can’t believe what we got for the money.

The other reason was we wanted to move back to the US.


13 posted on 03/13/2008 6:29:37 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: World_Events
Her husband and four children are depending on her. The $2,300 rent check on their Pasadena home is due in one week. She already asked for an extension on the gas. The cable and the phone have been disconnected.

A non citizen here illegally down and out in Pasadena.

I'm trying to feel something but it just not happening.

Nope, not happening.

14 posted on 03/13/2008 6:31:44 PM PDT by A message
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To: Windflier
One of the reasons we moved the family from Cali to Texas was the affordability of the real estate.

Very true.

But it also depends on just what part of Tejas one is purchasing real estate.

When I was stationed at Fort Hood many centuries ago, a decent three bedroom, two bath would run around $650.00 a month.

Of course, interest rates (thanks to that damn peanut farmer we had in the White House at that time) were close to 10 percent or higher.

But if I still had that particular home now, it would probably be a gold mine.

Wish I had kept it and just rented it out.

Probably could have got $4000.00 a month, if I could have just found an illegal immigrant with a penchant for recycling.

15 posted on 03/13/2008 6:46:30 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: tbw2
I thought this practice was called recycling or freecycling, and to be encouraged by liberals.

True, I think those in Berkley that do this are considered conquering hero's. LOL

16 posted on 03/13/2008 6:47:50 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: World_Events
$2300 per month for rent?
I guess thats not very much considering she's splitting the rent with 49 of her aunts, uncles, sisters,cousins & brothers.
17 posted on 03/13/2008 6:56:45 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: southernerwithanattitude
Shes been here for 13 years and can't speach english?

It's worse that that. Juana's been in the country illegally since 1982. (She must've missed the '86 amnesty.)
Two of her four chldren are also here illegally.
She uses a stolen shopping cart so she can steal to make a living.
She makes between $20,000 and $25,000 a year stealing recyclables (tax free money).
MediCal pays for her healthcare.
And then she claims:

"We are working honorably. We aren't robbing. The police should let us work."

18 posted on 03/13/2008 6:59:48 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: World_Events

How do you say “Move to someplace cheaper, dumbass” in Spanish?


19 posted on 03/13/2008 7:00:34 PM PDT by Redcloak ("A plague o' both your houses!")
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To: World_Events
Rivas knows what people think, that she digs through her neighbors' trash to make money for drugs or alcohol. She knows what people call her -- scavenger, digger, thief.

I'll go with "dumpster diver".

She has looked for more stable jobs, including cleaning offices at night. But nowadays, more companies are asking for immigration papers, papers she doesn't have.

Ah, well.. that "criminal status" might be a problem.

Her husband and four children are depending on her.

And what exactly is dear hubby doing?
They must be very rich to afford four children.

20 posted on 03/13/2008 7:03:27 PM PDT by humblegunner ()
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To: World_Events

GTFOOMC!


21 posted on 03/13/2008 7:04:36 PM PDT by Grunthor (I have no representative government, I am a conservative.)
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To: World_Events
...........more companies are asking for immigration papers, papers she doesn't have.

Today's feel good news story. Plus it's warmer in Mexico and she won't have to suffer those horrible Pasadena winters.

22 posted on 03/13/2008 7:05:14 PM PDT by purpleraine
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And since they're illegals they pay no income tax, no SS tax, no Medicare tax. So their money goes a lot farther than a tax paying citizen's money.
23 posted on 03/13/2008 7:06:19 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: World_Events

A rented house in Pasadena that costs $2300 a month?
Isn’t there a house for rent in Pacoima that costs less than that?????

Who cleared her and her husband for renting that kind of house???

Not a sob story as far as I am concerned.
She and her family-—IF they are legally here-— have alot of other choices in other parts of Los Angeles.


24 posted on 03/13/2008 7:24:38 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: DumpsterDiver

We are working honorably. We aren’t robbing. The police should let us work.”

The definition of work in Mexico must be alot different from that in the USA.....

Bottom line: They are here illegally, and the reporterette sure doesn’t get that minor fact.


25 posted on 03/13/2008 7:27:39 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: World_Events
Attempting to give a damn, please wait...

Attempt failed. (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)gnore? I
Ignored. Please reboot system.

Please reboot system.

Please reboot system.

Please reboot system.

Please reboot system...
26 posted on 03/13/2008 7:32:52 PM PDT by CzarChasm (My opinion. No charge.)
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To: World_Events

Dumpster Diving is typical here in L.A. with maybe 10 people going thru my trash on trash day. They are not just after bottles, they are after your I.D. I’ve resorted to burning my mail but now burning my fireplace is illegal.


27 posted on 03/13/2008 7:47:46 PM PDT by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: OldSmaj

“But it also depends on just what part of Tejas one is purchasing real estate.”

Dunno about that. I suspect that you’re going to be hard pressed to find anyplace in California that’s cheaper on real estate, per square foot, than anywhere in Texas.

Certainly, Texas is going to beat Cali prices if you compare like areas in both states.

I sold my old shoe box of a house in a lower than middle class area of LA for $400K three years ago.


28 posted on 03/13/2008 11:47:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: World_Events

The following link is a funny and blunt critique on the LA Times article:
http://bumhate.blogspot.com/2008/07/la-times-author-believes-you-should.html

Many of the points made by people here are talked about.


29 posted on 07/27/2008 4:50:55 AM PDT by bjohnson
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