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Turkey produces a revolutionary reinterpretation of Islamic texts
BBC ^ | 26 February 2008 | Robert Piggott

Posted on 02/26/2008 11:57:16 AM PST by northmoor

Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts By Robert Piggott Religious affairs correspondent, BBC News

Turkey is preparing to publish a document that represents a revolutionary reinterpretation of Islam - and a controversial and radical modernisation of the religion.

The country's powerful Department of Religious Affairs has commissioned a team of theologians at Ankara University to carry out a fundamental revision of the Hadith, the second most sacred text in Islam after the Koran.

It says that a significant number of the sayings were never uttered by Muhammad, and even some that were need now to be reinterpreted.

Some messages ban women from travelling without their husband's permission... But this isn't a religious ban. It came about because it simply wasn't safe for a woman to travel alone Prof Mehmet Gormez, Hadith expert, Department of Religious Affairs

Prof Mehmet Gormez, a senior official in the Department of Religious Affairs and an expert on the Hadith, gives a telling example.

"There are some messages that ban women from travelling for three days or more without their husband's permission and they are genuine.

"But this isn't a religious ban. It came about because in the Prophet's time it simply wasn't safe for a woman to travel alone like that. But as time has passed, people have made permanent what was only supposed to be a temporary ban for safety reasons."

Prof Gormez points out that in another speech, the Prophet said "he longed for the day when a woman might travel long distances alone".

So, he argues, it is clear what the Prophet's goal was.

Yet, until now, the ban has remained in the text, and helps to restrict the free movement of some Muslim women to this day.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: islam; reformation; turkey
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To: Digital Sniper

I wonder how they’ll attempt to “reform” the commandment to conduct war until the whole world is subjugated or converted.


21 posted on 02/26/2008 12:10:33 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Turkey - leading the Muslim world into the 12th century.
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Be fair. If as the article says, this is an Islamic Reformation, they are leading the Muslim world into the 16th century!


22 posted on 02/26/2008 12:12:07 PM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: northmoor

WOW.... This ought to be fun to watch.....


23 posted on 02/26/2008 12:12:11 PM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: northmoor

This is somewhat encouraging.


24 posted on 02/26/2008 12:12:12 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MrB
I wonder how they’ll attempt to “reform” the commandment to conduct war until the whole world is subjugated or converted.

I think they understand that they won't have to lift a finger on that front; the Dhimmicrats have made it clear that they're more than happy to bend over and take it up the tailpipe from the Mohammedans in the name of "cultural sensitivity" and "political correctness."

25 posted on 02/26/2008 12:13:00 PM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
If they stopped being Muslims and converted en masse to Christianity, that would be great, but barring that, this is a decent move.

You should read the later chapters of Joel Rosenberg's "Epicenter". Talks about conversions of Muslims to Christianity.

26 posted on 02/26/2008 12:13:25 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: northmoor

They have also taken an even bolder step - rejecting a long-established rule of Muslim scholars that later (and often more conservative) texts override earlier ones.
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That’s big. I hope this succeeds and is as hopeful as it sounds.


27 posted on 02/26/2008 12:13:35 PM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: northmoor; JasonC

What does our resident Islamist, JasonC, think of this?


28 posted on 02/26/2008 12:20:54 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Although I seem to remember Europe having a couple centuries of religious wars as people struggled to nail down what their religion really stood for, in light of the latest learning

I hope I am not misintrepreting your history lesson as somehow implying that a couple of decades worth of Muslims blowing each other away as being a bad thing...

29 posted on 02/26/2008 12:21:59 PM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: northmoor

Nail those theses to the door of the mosque, Muslim Luther!

This is the best news I’ve heard in ages.


30 posted on 02/26/2008 12:22:32 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: northmoor

The Islamic Reformation.


31 posted on 02/26/2008 12:22:48 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: northmoor; Shelayne; Quix; Star Traveler; Sensei Ern; Das Outsider; PROCON; HonestConservative; ...

Don’t let the significance of this go unnoticed ... PING!


32 posted on 02/26/2008 12:23:20 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Turkey WAS the islamic world until oil was raised in Saudi after WW II.


33 posted on 02/26/2008 12:24:03 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: northmoor

Mohammed Seminar?
The Islamic equivalent to the Jesus Seminar. The sound similar.


34 posted on 02/26/2008 12:24:21 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: L,TOWM

Well, I do see pluses and minuses. One of the major european wars, the Thirty Years War (1618-1648) really caused a lot of mayhem to people on the sidelines who had no dog in the fight. Along those lines, I can see oil going to $200 a barrel if Islam really started eating itself.


35 posted on 02/26/2008 12:24:43 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Jo Nuvark

This may create a war within Islam.


36 posted on 02/26/2008 12:25:34 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: DarthVader

It may create a path for Muslims in secular democracies, hopefully Iraq and Afghanistan, Egypt, Turkey, and Pakistan to truly marginalize the terrorist jihadists.


37 posted on 02/26/2008 12:28:46 PM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: Bosco; Jedi Master Pikachu; Das Outsider; Star Traveler

The “Jesus” Film has been finding its way into
the middle east with eternal results. Continue
to pray for the hearts and minds of these lost
people. The last one to say yes to Jesus could
be a (former) Muslim.

The last “yes”! Then the Rapture. Hallelujah!

— Jo —


38 posted on 02/26/2008 12:29:58 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Although I seem to remember Europe having a couple centuries of religious wars as people struggled to nail down what their religion really stood for, in light of the latest learning.

To be quite candid, I would rather see the Islamic countries fighting each other, or the fanatical Islamists fighting the Islamic countries than carrying the war to the USA.

39 posted on 02/26/2008 12:30:01 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: ClearCase_guy
One of the major european wars, the Thirty Years War (1618-1648) really caused a lot of mayhem to people on the sidelines who had no dog in the fight.

The 30 Years War was the grand climactic bash that finished off a century of religious warfare in Western Europe. Granted, the Brits still had to go through a civil war and the Cromwell experience, but once these disagreements were settled, the way was clear for the Enlightenment.

It may take a while for all this to play out, but I still see it as a net positive.

40 posted on 02/26/2008 12:30:14 PM PST by Publius (A = A)
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