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The Archbishop Goes Muslim
Town Hall ^ | February 14, 2008 | Emmett Tyrrell

Posted on 02/14/2008 7:53:20 AM PST by fweingart

WASHINGTON -- Islam has a new convert. Some will be surprised, but I am not. The newest convert to the religion of the unshaven face is Archbishop Rowan Williams. Dr. Williams has been the spiritual leader of the Anglican Church in the U.K. However, after his Feb. 7 interview on the BBC, I think we all can agree that he is not so much a spiritual leader as a spiritual capitulator.

In his wonderfully wooly-headed interview, derived from a public lecture delivered by him at the Royal Courts of Justice, Williams called on his countrymen to arrive at "constructive accommodation" with Shariah, which is Islamic law. According to his calculations, the inclusion of Shariah into the British code of law is "unavoidable." Thus if you are visiting London in the future and you appear in a British court, do not be surprised if it is presided over by a smiling mullah. Actually, it is not clear what Rowan knows about Shariah law, and in his BBC interview, he admitted: "I'm no expert on this." Nonetheless, he is calling for the institutionalization of Islam into at least some areas of his country's legal code. Doubtless soon the forward-looking archbishop will be seen lugging a prayer rug over to his local mosque at the appointed hours -- his wife, veiled and obedient, in tow. Shariah law can be pretty demanding.

In some countries where this legal code -- first formulated sometime in the seventh century -- is followed, it enjoins, among other atrocities, the stoning of adulterers, the amputation of body parts, and a kind of female subjugation unimaginable to even the most ardent Western male chauvinist pig. By the way, Shariah law even takes into consideration pigs, as well as mortgages, couture and the care of household pets, which are discouraged. As for pigs, they are considered "unclean." In most countries where Shariah law rules, a ham on rye is malum prohibitum -- pardon my Latin. As I say, Shariah law can be pretty demanding.

This brings me to a matter that Islam's most recent celebrity convert seems not to understand. Shariah law is socially, politically and legally all-embracing. It is not simply a religious faith, as various forms of Christianity are. It is a polity. As Peter G. Riddell, a theologian at the Kairos Journal, wrote in response to Williams on the Web site of The American Spectator, Shariah law "is a system that insists on society's compliance in every sector of human activity: legal, religious, economic, political, and social. Although Muslims may disagree on how to implement Islam as the total package, they do not disagree that Islam is much more than just a private expression of religious belief." So, Dr. Williams, you have had your last ham sandwich, and forget the pigs' knuckles. They are completely off the menu.

At the outset of this column, I mentioned that I am not surprised by the spiritual capitulation of the leader of the Church of England. Since the 1930s, many in the church's leadership have been classic appeasers. They appeased the fascists. Why would we not expect them to appease religious fascists? It is true that as World War II recedes into the mists of time, almost all big-hearted progressives or liberals (or whatever self-congratulatory term they apply to themselves) denounce Nazism and fascism with the utmost ardor. Yet when these odious movements were on the rise, many among the British elite cautioned prudence in dealing with them; and some actually admired them, including members of the royal family and, of course, clerics in the Anglican Church.

The recent inclination of people such as Williams to appease anti-democratic concoctions such as Shariah law might move the real defenders of democracy among us to contemplate what causes this appeasement. It is not tolerance. Williams would not tolerate most forms of bigotry, yet he tolerates the religious bigotry and authoritarianism of Shariah. Why? It is because he is, as were his antecedents who appeased Hitler, a coward. He is afraid of rousing himself from the comforts of his London manse to oppose even those who hate him. He calculates that someone else will do the job or that the threat will subside. Yet there is, I suspect, another more subtle cause for his appeasement.

The "bien pensant" of Williams' variety have lived in a self-contained society for the morally superior for several generations. They do not like their fellow countrymen who are not a part of that society. In a word, they do not like conservatives and others who, like conservatives, resist threats to Britain. We have the same sort of appeasers here. In both countries, these self-regarding poseurs would rather proclaim tolerance toward those who hate our countries than work with the rest of us to defend our way of life. Have a lovely time at the mosque, archbishop.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archbishop; imbecility; islam; jihadinbritain; polticalcorrectness; rowanwilliams
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...in his BBC interview, he admitted: "I'm no expert on this."

Not only is he 'no expert on this,' but he is a cowering twit who has drifted into a serious example of dementia.

1 posted on 02/14/2008 7:53:22 AM PST by fweingart
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To: fweingart

Pick this one apart.....if you can:

-——CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?

This is very interesting! We all need to read it from start
To finish......... And send it on to anyone who will read it.

Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.

Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.

The following is his reply:

Theologically - no . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia.

Religiously - no. . . . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256) (Koran).

Scripturally - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. .. . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no. . . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

Domestically - no. . . . Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually - no. . . . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles, and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. . . . Because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’ the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran’s 99 excellent names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation, perhaps we
Should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.
They obviously cannot be both ‘good’ Muslims and good Americans.

* * * Call it what you wish; it’s still the truth.

* * * You had better believe it.

* * * The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
And Barack Hussein Obama, a Muslim, wants to be our President?
You HAVE to be kidding?! Wake up America !


2 posted on 02/14/2008 7:55:49 AM PST by RC2
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To: fweingart
Dr. Williams has been the spiritual leader of the Anglican Church in the U.K.>p>Actually he's the head of the Anglican Communion--which includes the Episcopal Church of the United States. Then again, the EUSA also encompasses other embarrassing "theologians": The Rt. Rev. Vikie Gene, Bishop of the Diocese of N.H.; and the Most Rev. John Shelby Sprong, retired Bishop of the Diocese of N.J.
3 posted on 02/14/2008 7:58:46 AM PST by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 325 and counting! Stay home and get Hillary!)
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To: fweingart

Has the arcbishop been anathematised already?


4 posted on 02/14/2008 8:00:16 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (The barbarian)
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To: fweingart

Williams called on his countrymen to arrive at “constructive accommodation” with Shariah, which is Islamic law. According to his calculations, the inclusion of Shariah into the British code of law is “unavoidable.”

Well, there you have it. Some of us are going to bend over and grab our ankles for terrorists while the rest of us our buying more ammo.


5 posted on 02/14/2008 8:05:14 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: fweingart

Muslims practice female genital mutilation. It’s 6th century Dark Ages barbarism in the 21st century. It’s occurs today in Detroit and Colorado and wherever Islam grows in America. Seven years ago, so many cases of infected little girls’ genitalia from razor and glass cuts, landed in Colorado hospitals from the ritual that lawmakers passed a new law to stop it. The practice didn’t stop; it torpedoed underground. What happens when Muslims become the majority and vote it into legal practice? What happens when Mexicans vote horse tripping, cock fighting, bull fighting, Santeria (animal sacrifice already occurring in Florida) and dog fighting into law?

As we degrade our ability to maintain our civilization by adding disparate cultures, languages and the least educated and poorest of the planet, we reduce ourselves into the same kind of conditions they fled. At the same time, not one, single core problem has been solved in their countries. We import their dilemmas into our country. On top of that we add 100 million people to our country. And we stand around picking our noses and scratching our butts while Obama, Hillary and McCain flush our country into a miserable future.

As my grandfather said, “Those dang politicians keep serving us more outhouse soup, but we don’t have enough sense to close the door.”


6 posted on 02/14/2008 8:06:07 AM PST by IrishMike (I am not a Republican first. I am a conservative.)
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To: IrishMike
The politically correct crowd that believes most muslims love us, apparently haven't read any Spanish history.

Our president set a sterling example by inviting in a gaggle of muslims for a Ramadan White House dinner.

Meanwhile, the decaying Detroit isn't the only American city that is overrun with muslims. They're taking their places and readying for an attack on us and our 'leaders' quiz baseball players about taking steroids.

Congress needs to begin injecting steroids which might bring about a transformation from wimpy, socialist pansies to something we could grow to respect.

7 posted on 02/14/2008 8:20:01 AM PST by fweingart (Obama-Clinton (A ticket that will change our lives forever!))
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To: Freelance Warrior

Perhaps Britain’s socialized medicine practitioners will euthanize the simpleton.


8 posted on 02/14/2008 8:22:06 AM PST by fweingart (Obama-Clinton (A ticket that will change our lives forever!))
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To: Freelance Warrior

There’s nobody to anathematize him. Well, maybe the Queen, who I guess is his direct and ultimate superior, but since she’s the mother of Sultan Charles, I doubt that she’ll do anything about it!


9 posted on 02/14/2008 8:22:22 AM PST by livius
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To: RC2

Thank you for saying what I always wanted to say. I will be a shouting bullhorn for all to hear. Everything about islam is against all mankind. They even worship the moon for God’s sake! Please let America know the danger we are in for all our children, our creeds and for our religion, one nation under God, Jesus Christ.


10 posted on 02/14/2008 8:25:38 AM PST by cameraeye (The Lords Prayer on Obama's Lips? Where's the video?)
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To: RC2
Wake up America !

If we don't we will be the stupidest nation in the world, bar none!

To know that this communist allows posters of Che Guevara in his campaign headquarters, alongside a Cuban flag and refuses to honor the American flag should give a vast majority of Americans cause to shun this muslim; however, we seem to be evenly split between morons and those who do care.

In Kenya, after his visit to his father's homeland, they began brewing 'Senator' beer and people love it and now simply call for an Obama. The Kenyans (Kenya, land of the Mau Mau) watch CNN sometimes all day long in order to catch film clips of their hero.

Perhaps Obama should pack up and go to Kenya and become THEIR president as we certainly don't need him as ours.

11 posted on 02/14/2008 8:28:15 AM PST by fweingart (Obama-Clinton (A ticket that will change our lives forever!))
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To: livius
There’s nobody to anathematize him. Well, maybe the Queen, who I guess is his direct and ultimate superior, but since she’s the mother of Sultan Charles, I doubt that she’ll do anything about it!

I also don't know the procedure of the Anglican Church but it must be. Probably a synod of Anglican bishops can do this.

12 posted on 02/14/2008 8:31:18 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (The barbarian)
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To: cameraeye

For whatever reason, our people seem to ignore the truth about muslims while the muslims stand back and smile. Mosques are being built all over the place and we stand back and watch. I don’t mind other religions. Everyone can do their thing......but this one is looking to take over our country and needs to be stopped. Stop it now before it gets so big you can’t stop it.


13 posted on 02/14/2008 8:41:27 AM PST by RC2
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To: fweingart

Well, there should be a spiritual punishment also...


14 posted on 02/14/2008 8:43:06 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (The barbarian)
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To: RC2

“but this one is looking to take over our country and needs to be stopped. Stop it now before it gets so big you can’t stop it.”

And how will we stop it? Banning the practice of Islam, banning the building of Mosques? Mass deportation of of all believers?

Again, what would you do and how would you make this legal under our Constitution ?


15 posted on 02/14/2008 8:55:52 AM PST by Nokia
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To: RC2
Islam is a political and social system in religious drag.

Islam cannot be reconciled with US law and traditions.

Every last Muslim in these United States is suspect. All mosques should be infiltrated by the FBI and shut down at the first hint of violent intent.

16 posted on 02/14/2008 9:04:49 AM PST by Jacquerie (McCain will offer battle to Islam - The Obamabeast will offer our heads.)
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To: Nokia
Again, what would you do and how would you make this legal under our Constitution?

Hold muzzies to the law. If I am not mistaken, it is illegal to preach/promote violence. Shut down the mosque on the first offense. If local law prohibits covering one's face in public, hold them to it. Resist, do not give in to their rotten political and social system.

This of course, will not likely happen because politicians smell votes.

17 posted on 02/14/2008 9:15:36 AM PST by Jacquerie (McCain will offer battle to Islam - The Obamabeast will offer our heads.)
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To: fweingart

This reminds me of our own history of free states and slave states. We all know that ended in a civil war.


18 posted on 02/14/2008 9:16:12 AM PST by wmposh
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... a civil war.

Hmmm. Never thought of that.

19 posted on 02/14/2008 9:25:47 AM PST by fweingart (Obama-Clinton (A ticket that will change our lives forever!))
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To: Nokia

The handwriting is on wall. We’re doomed. We are a country of morons and we have no good choices because the establishment won’t allow it.


20 posted on 02/14/2008 9:26:45 AM PST by Gotterdammerung
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