Posted on 12/05/2007 8:43:44 AM PST by sulu
Also, they've been known to crawl under people's houses and literally rip out the copper water pipes.
—yep—Bingham Canyon and Butte are operating—here’s the skinny on Climax—
—http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2007/dec/05/climax-back-in-business/
I thought that there was a lot of research which indicated that light deterred crime.
Remind Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer to put that in the next Homeland Security or Defense Budget.
It’s a quagmire, withdraw all the police and city workers! Isn’t that what a liberal would say? That’s what they say about Iraq when those idiots steal all the copper wire faster than the army engineers can string it up.
I say let LA live in the dark, it cuts down on “greenhouse gases”. Besides, street lights make it harder for those honest, hard working illegals to ake a living stealing the stuff Americans don’t want to. /s
Locally, an 80ish old retired man was recently killed when thieves stole, I think, some sort of plumbing for the propane heat. He clicked on a lightswitch in the basement and *boom*. I probably have the details wrong, but his death was directly attributable to scrap thieves. Perps not caught, at large.
Another scam is to abscond with the whole outside compressor unit of air conditioners. The scrap yards are under increasing pressure to take down names, ID, etc, not surprisingly. It sure seems hinky if some crankhead shows up with a pickup bed full of copper pipe. I mean, c’mon.
Is there a correlation between the amount of artifical light in a city and ....? From that nighttime satellite view of the world - those areas of light - show modern population areas that have more fat people, more violence and more “copper thieves”.
I think the real issue is that “have nots” feel no guilt in taking from the “haves”. Promotion of a welfare/victim mentality yields such 3rd World activities.
LOL! Research by whom? The people that build them?
Ask yourself why the cities that are lit up the most, have tens of thousands of street lights, have the most crime. lol
Wow, that brings back memories.
Parents took us in vacation to Colorado in the early 70s when I was a kid, classic - green station wagon, “Canadian Sunset” on the radio, “are we there yet, etc”. Dad took us to the Climax mine and talked about molybdenum for some reason. Wish I would have been smart enough to buy some moly b stock just a few years ago, it’s gotten pricey. Good stuff.
That’s a touch hyperbolic. Copper pipes have been getting ripped out of vacant remodels in my neighborhood for the past 18-24 months. That’s not Third World: That’s the Michigan economy circling the drain and copper fetching a pretty penny.
Because they’re trying to reduce their crime rates?
Streetlights need to be replaced with solar anyhow.
With the cost of copper through the roof, and electricity getting to the roof, it makes sense to replace the lights with solar cells and storage.
The 3rd world idea of stealing infrastructure is a good observation. After all, America is rapidly becoming taken over by 3rd world ideology and custom.
Is street light wiring generally copper?
I ask because at my old house the power company came around replacing several poles, replacing wiring, and the cable TV company (telco?) came around shortly thereafter stringing cable wiring under the power lines. Anyway, from the pieces they left laying around (power company) I’d say it was all aluminum wiring. Could be mis-remembering though, I suppose.
“city officials Tuesday expressed concerns about the safety of passing drivers, pedestrians and bikers.”....and then went back to promptly doing nothing...
“In fact, the bigger the city, the more light, the more crime. Get rid of the street lights.”
No doubt. You know how hard it is to shoot somebody in the dark?
Ya see, I don't rely on government to protect me or provide my light. I've installed motion detector lights at my property. They don't burn 365 nights a year like government street lights. They only come on when motion is detected, and they work real good.
I believe most copper grounding rods are copper-plated steel, which means the copper content is almost nil. That obviously doesn’t mean some idiot won’t steal it, and your point is well taken. I’d seriously doubt a pure copper rod 10 feet long could be pounded into the ground (except in very, very soft soil) without bending like crazy.
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