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Ancient Egypt's Fantastic And Weird History
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-17-2007 | Terry Deary

Posted on 11/16/2007 6:59:19 PM PST by blam

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1 posted on 11/16/2007 6:59:20 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 11/16/2007 6:59:43 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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I know Dr. Zahi A. Hawass thinks they were built by willing construction workers whom were very well treated and very well paid. Heck he makes it sound like a day at the beach!

But if you look at their illustrations of construction going on, it looks far less pleasant that the good Dr. Hawass would lead you to believe.

Maybe for their general construction they used slaves but for the pyramids they used voluntary workers...;->


3 posted on 11/16/2007 7:16:34 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: blam

ping


4 posted on 11/16/2007 7:26:08 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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Napoleon's engineers told him the stones of the Great Pyramid would build a one-metre wall around France.

One of those claims that always sounds phony to me. Ran some (very rough) numbers and it turns out to be true. Something around 800 to 900 cubic meters of rock would be available for each of the roughly 3000 kilometers of the perimeter of France.

Of course, it depends on how you define "around France"...

5 posted on 11/16/2007 7:42:25 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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Dr. Zahi A. Hawass, wants us to succumb to liberal based cultural thinking, that the ancients lived in a world without global warming, slavery and recreates a quaint Utopia.

We know different from forensic science performed on Mummies. Their lives were often short, ( 40 was old age for most commoners), malnourished ( food availability was driven by season and regional famine, with poor transportation), full of sickness ( the flue and a common cold could kill you,and VD was so rampant at times that marriage was no guarantee against it), overwork ( dawn to dusk for peasants and their children), and episodes of terrifying violence ( when an army conquerd, it killed everyone, pillaged , burned and then salted the earth.)

It all sounds just like what George Bush has brought about, according to Liberals.

Liberal scientists are now upon us. May they all rot sooner than they think possible, and may DT Suzuki be among the first.

6 posted on 11/16/2007 8:04:58 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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Yeah, Zowie is just full of it on that score, and he’s forced everyone who wants to work in Egypt to toe the party line on that and everything else he spouts. It’s a joke.

“Oh, they had no choice, but they weren’t slaves.”

“Oh, there were bakeries by the hundreds to make bread, so all of the ‘workers’ were free men and women.”

Y’know, because slaves can go twenty years without bread. ;’)


7 posted on 11/16/2007 8:12:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Disaster That Struck The Ancients

"all of Upper Egypt was dying of hunger to such a degree that everyone had come to eating their children".

8 posted on 11/16/2007 8:27:21 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
King Tut had a video
9 posted on 11/16/2007 8:31:22 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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Boo...


10 posted on 11/16/2007 8:41:39 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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OK, so it’s late (right coast time that is)


11 posted on 11/16/2007 8:43:22 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: blam

Actually I think the battle of Qadesh was more of a draw than a Hittite victory. Ramses the Great did call it a victory and it is probably true that he almost lost but fought his way back to a dignified withdrawal.


12 posted on 11/16/2007 8:44:32 PM PST by yarddog (`)
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it was wrecked 500 years before by Mohammed Sa’im al-Dahr, a Sufi fanatic
Some things never change


13 posted on 11/16/2007 8:54:19 PM PST by sonic109
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My two cents...
Some people believe the young Tutankhamun was murdered by his uncle, Ay, who went on to take the throne. But in 2005 the mummy was given an X-ray, and they found he had a broken leg, which probably led to his death.
Of course, there's also a little-known inscription in Tut's tomb, translates as, "my uncle broke my leg! Help!"
Why does the Sphinx have no nose? Legend says Napoleon's army used it as target practice. The truth is it was wrecked 500 years before by Mohammed Sa'im al-Dahr, a Sufi fanatic.
Wow, what a surprise...
The Ancient Greeks said the pyramids were built over 10 years by 10,000 slaves. In fact, they were built by 25,000 or so free men, who were well fed with beef and ale - and each one probably took just five years.
Huh? Herodotus (the only surviving account, I believe) reports that the *ancient Egyptians* told him the Great Pyramid took over twenty years, 25? Anyway, this lower figure is more nonsense from Zowie, who claims that the number of stones in the Great Pyramid is about 500,000, and on average they weigh between 1000 and 2000 pounds each. There's basically no one I've ever heard of who follows this particular line of bull -- the generally accepted numbers are 2 1/2 million stones of 1 to 2 tons each (not to mention the massive stones used for the Grand Gallery and the known chambers). KMT had a scholarly article about five years ago which puts the number at about 4 million stones, but of varying sizes and weights. The number of slaves (yes, slaves) employed in the construction of the Great Pyramid have been estimated (since no one knows) as high as 100,000, which is probably more in line with reality (considering that a lot of quarrying and transporting had to be done offsite).
Stolen mummies were sent to the US in the 1890s to be mashed and made into wrapping paper. But customers started to die of cholera. The mummies' revenge!
I've read that typhus also lives in old latrine sites for thousands of years.
Some historians think the first pharaohs were invaders from the East
David Rohl wrote a book about this; I think, in general, it's believed that pharaonic culture came from the western desert, y'know, before it was desert, moving into the Nile valley as the Sahara dried out.
Some historians think the first pharaohs were invaders from the East
David Rohl wrote a book about this; I think, in general, it's believed that pharaonic culture came from the western desert, y'know, before it was desert, moving into the Nile valley as the Sahara dried out.
14 posted on 11/16/2007 9:30:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Whoops, sorry about that duplicate paragraph. :’)


15 posted on 11/16/2007 10:02:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Scribes described Ramesses II's great victory over the Hittites at Qadesh in Syria… even though the Hittites won. Was this the oldest case of spin-doctoring?
:') Ramesses II (who was quite young at the time) was suckered into thinking that his adversary was far off, when in fact he was close by and ready to strike with numerical superiority. Ramesses II took part of his army farther toward his objective, hoping to grab it before the enemy could get near, then learned his mistake and (apparently) sent back for the rest of the army to hurry up. The enemy struck, and Ramesses II cut his way out aboard his chariot, reached the other half of his army, and beat a retreat while the other half was slaughtered. There's a nice video discussion about this on that Empires: Egypt disk (PBS I think), in which Kent Weeks describes it pretty accurately, but with some sensitivity toward Zowie's nutty praise of Ramesses II.
16 posted on 11/16/2007 10:12:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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17 posted on 11/16/2007 10:12:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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“Peasants ate bread that was so coarse it wore away their teeth”

The reason for tooth wear was that the grinding stones used left stone grit in the flour.


18 posted on 11/16/2007 10:14:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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19 posted on 11/16/2007 10:18:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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20 posted on 11/16/2007 10:26:14 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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