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California Fire Battalion Chief - Whoever Did This Knew What They Were Doing
Homeland Security National Terror Alert Responce Center ^ | October 22, 2007 | News Admin - Unattributed

Posted on 10/23/2007 2:44:10 PM PDT by NorthernRight

Edited on 10/23/2007 5:40:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

California Fire Battalion Chief - Whoever Did This Knew What They Were Doing

October 22, 2007

Fire officials are now stating that the Orange County Santiago fire was purposely set and there is speculation that other fires may have also been deliberate. See Interactive Map

Fire officials found three separate “points of origin,” all near the intersection of Silverado Canyon Road and Santiago Canyon Road. Two were on one side of the road, and the third was on the other. “Whoever did this knew what they were doing,” said Kris Concepcion, a fire authority battalion chief. Also, the fire traveled 3 miles in its first 20 minutes when it was ignited about 6 p.m. Sunday, he said.

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We are NOT implying that the California fires are an act of terrorism however; the threat of pyro-terrorist attacks pose a significant risk to the U.S. and the fires in California and in Greece earlier this year should be a wake-up call.

In 2003 an FBI memo alerted law enforcement agencies that an al-Qaeda terrorist being held in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.

It was reported that the detainee, who was not identified, said the plan involved three or four people setting wildfires using timed devices in Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming that would detonate in forests and grasslands after the operatives had left the country.

“The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies,” the memo said.

How Can So Many Fires Be By Natural Causes ?

A Local News Radio talk show host in San Diego asked, “how can so many fires, in so many places, in such a short period of time, all be caused by natural causes”.

From USA Today in July of 2003

USA Today/Gannett publication article removed.

al-Qaeda Detainee Spoke of Fire Plot

As we have stated before. If you see anything suspicious, report it to law enforcement immediately.

UPDATE: Video - Officials say arson now suspected in Orange County Fire

UPDATE: From Los Angeles Fox News

“I’m sad to report this is an arson fire,” OCFA Chief Chip Prather announced at an early morning briefing. “There were three separate starts: two on one side of the road and one on the other, and obviously we are actively investigating that.”

Links - A number of blogs and websites have sprung up to report on the fires. We will provide links to a couple we’ve found.

National Interagency Fire Center

Live Local News Coverage Channel 10 San Diego

Orange County Register

And Still I Persist

Sign On San Diego Fire Blog

 

Written by News Admin · Filed Under Incident Reports 


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arson; dajjal; dhimmi; dhimmitude; dhimmiwatch; earthfirst; ecoterrorism; evil; fatnotlazy; firechief; greenpeace; ididit; illegals; islamicjihad; islamofascism; jihad; jihadis; pissedoffillegals; sandiego; santiagocanyon; satan; savetheearth; sierraclub; terrorism; veryevil; wildfire; wildfires; wot
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To: Marie
So, within three days, at four major fire stations, the same activity is reported and the Commander at the threat assessment group says they are not considering them relted?

ANyhow...I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that they are related. There is a continuous "casing" and checking of infrastructure that is going on around the country IMHO. From those recon missions (if you will) our enemies will pick targets and will one day act on them. All the more reason to continue aggressively taking the fight to them.

Also, thank you so much for getting and reading my, "Dragons Fury - World War against America and the West"

I hope you really enjoy it...and if you are so inclined, when you complete it, please consider a review here on FR and on Amazon. It is self-published and workd of mouth and reviews are my friends.

421 posted on 10/25/2007 1:54:51 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Clemenza

“Its the Rich “white” Californians who employ the illegals. “

And now demolition companies, masons, framers, roofers, and landscapers. This is a boon for Mexico.


422 posted on 10/25/2007 2:23:48 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: All
Six illegal immigrants arrested at Qualcomm (for stealing food and water)

Liberty Post
SoS.com


423 posted on 10/25/2007 2:25:06 PM PDT by NorthernRight (Liberalism is a mental disorder - Socialism is a mental illness!)
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To: Reagan is King
Well thanks to the Sierra Club and the nutty tree huggers we will always be vulnerable to fires in California because nobody out there can cut down a freaking dead tree or clear brush without getting fined! Idiots.

Speaking of idiots...

Why do people falsely claim that environmentalists stopped brush clearing in CA?

424 posted on 10/25/2007 2:36:26 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (After six years of George W. Bush I long for the honesty and sincerity of the Clinton Administration)
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To: Professional
"Anyone could have done this, for a number of reasons. Also, remember tainted Tylenol? Lots of copycats..."

Yes, having lived in SoCal all my life, we have a documented history of fire-bug "copycats".

That aside, this season of gale force winds, single digit humidity, and a record drought has brought a "perfect storm" scenario. You need only to look at the brush sideways for it to ignite.

We'll know later, but some were cause by arson; some were caused by a downed power line due to the winds; one was caused by a weilder; and others are probably due to cigarettes thrown out cars or camping. We'll see. The fire department investigative divisions are very good at determining the origin.

425 posted on 10/25/2007 2:45:21 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum)
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To: NorthernRight

Terrorism from the islamos or illegals is worth considering of course but my suspicion would look first to a pyro maniac or an anti developement eco-terrorist.


426 posted on 10/25/2007 3:41:13 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: Marie

“This will raise your eyebrows...

http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/20/suspicious-activity-at-california-fire-stations-terrorism-center-issues-watch-request/

Yes it did and thank you for that post.


427 posted on 10/25/2007 3:43:39 PM PDT by angelsonmyside
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To: Marie

“The men were reportedly in their 20s or early 30s, and one was using a sophisticated news media-style camera.”

Very interesting. To me that points more towrds Mecca than Mexico.


428 posted on 10/25/2007 3:46:08 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: NorthernRight

Eco terrorism, laraza terrorism, standard islamic terrorism. Somebody will take credit for it, just wait.


429 posted on 10/25/2007 4:30:21 PM PDT by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: grey_whiskers; jackibutterfly
Sorry, I cannot find the link... to dave Barry. If you go to "Wikipedia" and enter the term "bat bomb", you will find the reference to the original article in Air Force Magazine (1990) which Dave Barry worked from.

Best line of Barry's commentary:"The project continued to have problems with bats failing to show the 'can-do' attitude you want in your night-flying combat mammal."

Cheers!

430 posted on 10/25/2007 5:27:28 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: GOP Poet
I am curious if the whole of the border line was set a flame

A good chunk of it was. The Harris fire, east and south of Chula Vista appears to have straddled the border. The evacuation zone for that one stretched from a few miles inland east along border for about 30 miles. The actual fire area was the eastern 15 or so miles of that, although farther north the fire stretched almost as far west as the evacuation zone.

Source

I doubt if many were interested in border jumping in the San Diego area this week... except those looking to loot the evacuated areas.

431 posted on 10/25/2007 5:50:33 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: omega4179
That is spooky. Fires in pretty much the same places. Notice that while the fires in the same places, the wind is not from the same direction. The '07 picture has the wind just a little north of east, while in '06 it was from the northeast and maybe a little north of northeast.

2007

2006

In 2006 there was at least one fire of some size in Mexico. This time, only a very small one, somewhat farther south.

432 posted on 10/25/2007 6:08:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: DCPatriot
The homes will be rebuilt with more fire resistant materials.

Most of the houses I have seen in that area, are already stucco with tile roofs. Many if not most are built with concrete block exterior walls. The stuff inside will burn of course. But how much more fire resistant can they get? Maybe poured concrete furniture, including beds, with nomex covered fiberglass for padding and mattresses?

433 posted on 10/25/2007 6:19:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: NorthernRight

Perhaps these fires were set to signal a nationwide bioterror event...


434 posted on 10/25/2007 6:25:05 PM PDT by northislander
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To: 444Flyer
Prayers for our Marines!

They evacuated their families and whatever they could move, yesterday, after having been alerted even earlier.

IOW, they were prepared.

435 posted on 10/25/2007 6:33:12 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 444Flyer
Let’s hope it was old, outdated equipment.

That just means it will cost money that the military doesn't have to replace it. No insurance you know, the government is self insured, which means by the taxpayers.

436 posted on 10/25/2007 6:42:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Jeff Head
I'm sending Dragon's Fury with my husband when he goes back to Iraq. As soon as I finish it, I'll leave my reviews! (My daughter's anxionus to get her chance at the book... and so is my mother... looks like I may have to buy at least one more copy to keep the family happy! lol! I love that so many FReepers had a hand in it.)

We saw activity like this when we lived in GE. Strange folks photographing army housing, etc. We were lucky and nothing ever came of it. I have no idea if this was the actions of Muzzies, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

437 posted on 10/25/2007 8:46:50 PM PDT by Marie (Unintended consequences.)
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To: angelsonmyside

Thank *you* for making that into a proper link! (I hate HTML! LOL!)


438 posted on 10/25/2007 8:48:24 PM PDT by Marie (Unintended consequences.)
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To: frithguild

lol


440 posted on 10/26/2007 2:16:33 AM PDT by KnightKey
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