UN & Kosovo (Must Read): Ahtisaari’s Collusion With Albanian Mafia Confirmed Beyond Doubt

Byzantine Sacred Art ^ | July 15, 2007 | Svetlana Novko

[Bokababe]

U.S. State Department Unable to Deny Reports on Ahtisaari Corruption

Excerpt From July 13 Press Briefing

.... QUESTION: One more on the same issue. According to reports, the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon already started an investigation about these payments, confirmed the existence by a report prepared for him by the German intelligence agency BND unit assigned to the UN mission in Kosovo. Any comment on it?

MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, you’re free to go ask the UN what investigations it has or hasn’t started. [...] If you’d like to pursue shadows, feel free to talk to the UN about it.....

Far More Than “Shadows” — Gregory Copley: Ahtisaari’s Corruption Confirmed Beyond Doubt

In July 14 exclusive interview with Belgrade daily Vecernje novosti, the President of the International Strategic Studies Association Gregory Copley confirmed that everything published about Martti Ahtisaari being bribed by the Albanian mafia to propose independence for southern Serbian Kosovo province is correct.....

QUESTION: According to the Fokus article, it was the UN Secretary General that requested the investigation of Ahtisaari’s corruption?

MR. COPLEY: Soon after he requested the investigation, he demanded quick resolution of Kosovo issue and he failed to undertake clear steps to suspend Ahtisaari, or to examine his work. He was obviously shocked by the initial accusations, which German intelligence confirmed beyond any doubts. But it should also be taken into consideration that Ki-moon is right now under enormous pressure — not just from the KLA which threatens the entire region with violence, but from the U.S. State Department which acts like the KLA agent in promoting Kosovo independence.

[Kunikuni]

Quote MR. CASEY: "I want a show of hands, how many know the well-known analyst Gregory Copley. Okay, that's what I thought. That's about my view of it, Mr. Lambros....."

Quote "Ring any bells?"

Quote MR. CASEY, (finger stuck in cheek, red face, eyes rolling): " Oh you meant 'THAT' Gregory Copley!!!" :)

[Bokababe]

LOL! High five, Kunikuni! Think that sent Hopeless running for his nitro pills to restart his heart!

BB

[Hoplite]

I can only assume you fit into Copley's target demographic.

Though if you're capable of imagining dialogue and events all for yourself, I don't see what you'd need Copley for.

[Kunikuni]

Well Bokababe, us Serb apologists do have a good sense of humor eh?
We have a good sense of social justice too imo.

Hoppy, I can’t remember what your reply was now, I just sincerely hope that you, and GWB whom I admire as a man come to see the light eventually.

Keep the fight for freedom alive, as an old cyber friend and US Veteran used to say.

(As you all are)

[tillacum]

I imagine the state department is AGAIN covering clinton’s butt. Remember we supported the kla during clinton’s BIG war in that area. I think clinton “won”? Now we have a bunch of muslims running the area. The gate that kept out the hordes out, for centuries was knocked down by clinton and now we see the results.

[montyspython]

Hoplite is the majmun in the middle.

[Kunikuni]

Quote: "Remember we supported the kla during clinton’s BIG war in that area. "

Yeah, well speaking of Gateways we also supported Bosnia and mujahadin too remember?
"July 16, 2007 Issue Copyright © 2007 The American Conservative"
The Bosnian Connection

".......In 1992, as Sheikh was preparing to leave for Bosnia and take up arms against the Bosnian Serbs, Hitchens began agitating for American action against them. One went to fight alongside the Bosnian Muslim Army, the other called for the arming of the Bosnian Muslim Army and the military punishment of its opponents in the Bosnian Serb camp. The explosion of civil war in Bosnia in 1992 turned both into military interventionists who decided to declare war against what they considered “evil.” Hitchens’s and Sheikh’s shared starting point is not a one-off. Many of today’s liberal hawks, who call for war against al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere, were on the side of the militants during the Bosnian conflict. Indeed, back then the pro-interventionist Left and al-Qaeda were allies. Both groups backed the Bosnian Muslim Army and demonized the Bosnian Serbs as savages. Liberal hawks, including Hitchens, did it with propaganda; al-Qaeda did it by deed. But both the black-and-white worldviews of the Left neocons and the bin Ladenites were forged in the fires of the Bosnian war. It is widely known that the Mujahi-deen first emerged during the Afghan-Soviet War of the 1980s, when they were armed and trained by American, British, Pakistani, and Saudi intelligence. Less well reported is the fact that Western forces later facilitated the movement of Mujahideen into Bosnia. Some 3,000 Islamic militants descended to fight alongside the Bosnian Muslims. The Clinton administration, which encouraged the arming of the Bosnian Muslim Army by Iran, Saudi Arabia, and various dubious Islamic charities, helped to open a gateway...."
Brendan O’Neill is editor of spiked-online.com..
http://amconmag.com/2007/2007_07_16/feature.html

[tillacum]

You’ve got it buddy. The gates were opened to the “hordes” for the first time in a few hundred years. Too bad. Now we’re stuck with it and the co-president to clinton is running for the whitehouse. It was really her idea to go to war in the Balkans, ole clinton didn’t have the brass or the backing to do so. Mamma said do it, so he did it and our brrrr...a..ve congress went right along with it, not a whimper, not a nay among the cowards, just a full speed ahead at 15,000 feet. I’ll stop here or regurgitate.

[Kunikuni]

I know how you feel:(
Sounds like you know about this radio interview from 1999, if anyone missed it...:)

Quote: "G. Sheehy: Hillary did persuade Bill Clinton to bomb in Kosovo, and what she said to him in phone calls over 48 hours from North Africa in March of ‘99: "You can’t let this ethnic cleansing go on at the end of the century that has seen the Holocaust."

M. Savage: But it turns out that was false because the original estimates of 100,000 were now reduced to 10,000 by the State Department, and yet the UN inspection team has only found 2,200 bodies. So this could turn out to be the greatest disaster of her, of her entire life.

G. Sheehy: Well, I don’t know about that. But we’re getting way, way far away from any...

M. Savage: Well, wait a minute, we’re not far away from the UN, which went to the ground, looked for the bodies, and found 2,200 dead bodies. This was one of the greatest war crimes of our age according to many international people who know that, including liberal democrats.

G. Sheehy: Well, I really don’t know what, whether, the facts have all come out. And I don’t think we will know for a while. It’s one of those ongoing stories...

M. Savage: No, it’s not. Here, wait a minute, before we go on, we can’t just say the facts don’t exist. The UN spent a lot of time looking for the mass graves. They said there were only about 2,200 bodies that were found. They don’t even know how many of those are Serbian bodies. And then just last week the State Department revised downward their 100,000 figure of dead Kosovar Albanians to 10,000 even though the UN only said 2,200. This is turning out... and I don’t think you, I don’t think you want to defend Hillary on this.

G. Sheehy: [Unintelligible] ... a small number. In any case,...

M. Savage: But does that, wait, does that justify bombing an entire nation into the stone age?

G. Sheehy: Wait, wait. We, they didn’t, they didn’t bomb it into the stone age...

M. Savage: There are no bridges left on the Danube River. The people have no heating oil; they have no food.

G. Sheehy: I’m not going to sit here and debate with you the rightness and the wrongness of the bombing in Kosovo. All I’m telling you is what I know. That’s all I can tell you.

M. Savage: But what you don’t know is that there is more to it than what you do know.

G. Sheehy: Well, Hillary and you and the American public did not know any of this at that time...

M. Savage: Yes, we did. I beg... Excuse, excuse me, Gail Sheehy, many Jewish people who had been sheltered by the Serbian people were on this program and were outraged that we were killing our allies who rescued our airmen in World War II. We got people on who were former prosecutors at Nuernberg against Hitler, on this program, liberal Democrats, going back to FDR, who were outraged at what the Clintons had done with our airplanes, giving them to NATO. So don’t say that we didn’t know. We knew it even then.

G. Sheehy: No, we didn’t know. They...

M. Savage: How can you tell us we didn’t know, when we debated it here?

G. Sheehy: Well, they didn’t have observers; they didn’t even have UN observers at that point...

M. Savage: So how did they make up a hundred thousand?

G. Sheehy: Conditions were so severe they couldn’t even keep... they pulled out the UN observers -- if you remember.

M. Savage: So how did they raise it to a hundred thousand if they didn’t know?

G. Sheehy: I don’t know. That’s the reporting that we had at that time.

M. Savage: In other words, it was propaganda that Hillary Clinton used. It was propaganda that Hillary Clinton used in order to justify the unjustifiable.

G. Sheehy: They didn’t know any better than you knew.

M. Savage: Oh, they didn’t know any better than I did, and they’re the president and his wife. So what does that say about them?

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/12/18/63801
Don'r forget to vote folks!

[Kunikuni]

["I can only assume you fit into Copley's target demographic."](Hoppy)
Regarding 'Mr" Casey. There is a follow up to this..

"This is on the Balkans. Mr. Casey, to my surprise, I was told that Mr. Gregory Copley is better analyst than Richard Holbrooke, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Faith, Morton Abramowitz, and the list is going on. Besides that, he's very well-known by the Secretary of State Rice and Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte. General Hague has endorsed this into his book. After your -- yesterday response on the Balkan, his statement writing today: "There is no doubt that the Department of State has been driving the agenda of Southeast Europe, and that the Department of State's agenda is exactly the same as the former Clinton administration agenda. This has proven to be very counterproductive for U.S. strategic interests in the past, and the situation has now worsened." How do you respond to those charges against the Department of State?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2007/may/85465.htm

[Hoplite]

Whatever.

He and Bodansky can cry on each other's shoulders at the monthly analyst anonymous meetings for all I or those directing US policy care.

Enough with this clown already.

[Kunikuni]

[”He and Bodansky can cry on each other’s shoulders at the monthly analyst anonymous meetings for all I or those directing US policy care.’]

Everybody can see that Hoppy, what was that Albanians name in Switzerland who is directing US foreign policy?

Behgjet Pacolli, I keep forgetting..

{”“I’m paying a team of 60 men lobbying for Kosovo in Washington, starting from the members of the President George Bush’s Administration, down to the American Senators and Congressmen,” Fokus quotes Pacolli as saying in one of the recent interviews where he also claims to be good friends with the former U.S. president Bill Clinton.

The Albanian Muslim billionaire was at the center of a Kremlin corruption scandal eight years ago, during and after NATO aggression on Serbia, when he was suspected of bribing former Russian president Boris Yeltsin. The scandal involved top Russian officials, including the former Kremlin property chief Pavel Borodin and former Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, as well as the leading International Monetary Fond figures, members of the Clinton administration and heads of a number of international banks. Current chief prosecutor of the Hague Tribunal Carla del Ponte, back then in the role of a Swiss State Prosecutor, stormed Pacolli’s Lugano office of the company “Mabetex” following the request by the Russian State Prosecutor Yurii Skuratov. After over a year of investigations, the Swiss authorities have charged Behgjet Pacolli with money laundering and “criminal association.”…………………… “]

http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2007/06/

[Hoplite]

what was that Albanians name in Switzerland who is directing US foreign policy?

There ya go - it's all a conspiracy.

The fool's excuse for not being able to comprehend strikes again.

[Kunikuni]

[”The fool’s excuse for not being able to comprehend strikes again.”]

Well you really can’t blame me for your own failings, can you?

[”There ya go - it’s all a conspiracy.”]

Not any longer, a world standard well known analyst named Gregory Copley has studied the bribery allegations and BND records and has stated it is for real.

It is neither Copley’s problem that a clown named Casey is so ill informed and blinkered.

Now we all wait and see. Time will tell, because pal, the public have a right to know, and that means keeping them honest as CNN says so very often.
You cannot honestly claim that you are happy with the state of foreign policy in the US through two successive Presidencies. If you are then the comprehension problem is all your own.
In Grandpa’s day folks were told what to think and it was ok because the politicians were trustworthy.
That all changed with Clinton and wag the dog.
Dream on.

[Hoplite]

Now we all wait and see.

Seen.

What was it Lambros said about Copely being well known by Secretary Rice?

LOL. The stupid lead the blind. Open your eyes.

[Kunikuni]

[”LOL. The stupid lead the blind. Open your eyes.”]

That is such good advice to Soviet expert Secretary Rice Hoppy, I bet that’s just what Copley advised her.

Know what? If this administration creates a new jihadist terrorist state in Europe, which it will be if created, neither major parties ever deserve to be supported again.

They are already beating their war drum against the US if they don’t get their way. No true ally does that.

I wish your optometrist every success restoring your vision, as for the ‘seen’ link, it was already seen.

Thanks.

[Hoplite]

If this administration creates a new jihadist terrorist state in Europe, which it will be if created

Yeah, just like Bosnia.

Last I checked, both Bosnia and Albania had troops with coalition forces in Iraq, whereas Serbia has none.

So save your scary bedtime stories for someone else, m'kay?

Thanks.

[Kunikuni]

I thought you were a freeper. Obviously not. Serbia is contributing more troops than both those put together. You just didn't know where to look. ["1,000 Serbs Serving With U.S. Forces in Iraq Blic (Belgrade) ^ | 06/29/06 | M. Ivanovich Posted on 05/29/2006 5:52:50 AM PDT by Banat

1,000 Serbs Serving With U.S. Forces in Iraq

About a thousand people from Serbia are on active duty in Iraq, wearing US uniform and fighting alongside the Americans, writes Belgrade daily "Blitz." "]
http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/1640035/posts?page=15

["Ohio National Guard, Serbian President Boris Tadić visited Ohio to discuss a planned partnership through the National Guard State Partnership Program.."]
http://www.ohionationalguard.com/pao/news/2006%20Stories/20060913a.htm
["The Ohio and Serbian military leaders are working with state and federal agencies to facilitate an exchange of troops as soon as the end of the calendar year. The long term plan will include training events in Serbia and Ohio. "]
http://www.ohionationalguard.com/pao/news/2006%20Stories/20061005a.htm

["Bilateral Military Cooperation" "Serbia and the U.S. move into the future"
"Serbia and the United States have enjoyed good cooperation. And I look forward to the deepening of our defense relationship and indeed the deepening of our friendship." Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at the signing of the SOFA with President Tadic in Washington. * Remarks by Secretary Rice and President Tadic (link)"
"..On September 7, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Serbian President Tadic signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) that will permit regular military exchanges and exercises between the U.S. and Serbia. The SOFA also opens the door to a new partnership, the State Partnership Program (SPP), between the Serbian military and the Ohio State National Guard. During President Tadic's trip to the United States in September, he met with Ohio Governor Bob Taft and U.S. Senator George Voinovich to announce this new partnership. Sen. Voinovic said, “I believe that this partnership begins a new chapter in the relationship between the United States of America and Serbia.” In the words of General Blum, "Serbia is key to the future of democratic freedoms and principles in the Balkan region."] http://belgrade.usembassy.gov/feature/200611.html

[Hoplite]

Reading is fundamental, Kuni.

There are no Serbian troops in either Iraq or Afghanistan.

Unfortunately, you're about as smart as all the other Serb boosters around here, which is to say not smart enough.

[Kunikuni]

If reading is fundamental, why I wonder do you appear to have so much problem with comprehension? How many 'Kosavars', (Kosovo Albanians) are in Iraq? Afghanistan for that matter? (On our side that is). Fort Dix ring a bell as to who's side these people are really on? I see on CNN that they are attacking the UN peacekeepers in Kosovo again today.

Look, I am sure you mean well. But you picked the wrong side. Once it all screws up as it is doing, you may change your mind, but I doubt it. As for your personal assessment of my smarts, they are in line with the rest of your comments. I know my own IQ, I don't know yours, so you are not qualified to judge.

Using the terms 'Serb booster' and Serb apologists' exposes you as a person, your real prejudice. I wonder what you could be called had you used the same terminology in reference to Jews instead of Serbs. That exposes you doesn't it, just substitute one name for the other and look at yourself in the mirror. Shame on you, you really think you are that superior eh?

As for independence "One way or the Other" comment by Soviet-era-haven't-caught-up-yet Secretary Rice, there is no 'Other' way!
"U.N. action on Kosovo called off because of Moscow Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:43 PM EDT135 By Evelyn Leopold UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United States and Europeans discarded on Friday their U.N. Security Council resolution on Kosovo's future status because of Russian opposition...."
http://tinyurl.com/2hlxuk Except a total violation of International law.