Posted on 05/17/2007 8:22:13 AM PDT by libertarianPA
In a stunning move, House Democrats today revealed they will attempt to rewrite House rules that have gone unchanged since 1822 in order to make it possible to increase taxes and government spending without having to vote and be held accountable. House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) today vowed Republicans will use every available means to fight this unprecedented change.
“This is an astonishing attempt by the majority leadership to duck accountability for tax-and-spend policies the American people do not want,” Boehner said. “The majority leadership is gutting House rules that have been in place for 185 years so they can raise taxes and increase government spending without a vote. House Republicans will use every tool available to fight this abuse of power.”
Last November, House Democratic leaders promised the most open, ethical Congress in history:
“[W]e promised the American people that we would have the most honest and most open government and we will.” (Nancy Pelosi press stakeout, December 6, 2006)
“We intend to have a Rules Committee ... that gives opposition voices and alternative proposals the ability to be heard and considered on the floor of the House.” (Steny Hoyer in CongressDaily PM, December 5, 2006)
The rules House Democrats are seeking to change have not been changed since 1822.
Republicans have already achieved significant legislative successes on the House floor with 11 consecutive “motion-to-recommit” victories that exposed flaws and substantively improved weaknesses in underlying Democrat bills. But rather than living by the same rules which have guided the House of Representatives for 185 years, Democrats are proposing to change the rules in order to game the system and raise taxes and increase spending without a House vote. What are House Democrats afraid of?
Hurry-up get some more ammo!!! I think the Dems need to reload after shooting themselves in the foot so many times.
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Yeah, but politically, perception is reality. You think the MSM will give this ANY play, no matter how much the Republicans fight? It will get ignored.
So, it’s a corollary to the old “tree in the forest” story. If a democrat shoot themselves in the foot, and the MSM does not report it, does it really hurt?
The bill is in the House now. The bill was introduced by professor and lawyer, both from Kalifornica, one for the SF Bay area, and both heravily donating to Dems in the past.
He’s against and discussion about illegals til after the border is secured.
The bill is in the House now. The bill was introduced by professor and lawyer, both from Kalifornica, one for the SF Bay area, and both heravily donating to Dems in the past.
I don't know where you guys get your information when you throw slurs like this around. I was a party official until 2006 and saw the election numbers--here and nationwide. Turnout in conservative precincts was just fine; in fact, it was big. But turnout of the base only influences close elections.
We lost 2006 because indies and squishy R's voted D. The turnaround in the Indie vote between 2004 and 2006 was huge.
In the real world (not the cartoon world of evil conservatives you seem to live for), you would be thanking conservative precincts for saving about 25-30 house seats with good turnout in close races. Had conservatives sat on their hands, we would have lost those house seats also.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
No, because there is no filibuster in the House. No veto is possible, because House rules only apply in the House. House rules are not "the law of the land", they're about procedure followed by the House as it does its business.
What the House spits out in the way of legislation under these proposed rules is a whole nother story. I bet it becomes more difficult to reconcile House bills that have passed in that body with the bills that have passed in the Senate, creating more gridlock within the Legislative Branch.
I’ll second that motion!
It's like watching a train wreck, it's just something that's going to happen, and we can't do a damn thing about it.
I believe you're right. Boehner is a pretty solid conservative in every area except his open-borders position. Does he have alot of Hispanics in his district?
“Let me thank all the “true” conservatives . . .”
Like “Vote for Rudy—or you’ll get Hillary” that trope has pretty much shot its wad.
So to speak.
Bien venidos, FRamigo! ?Where you been esse?
can you hear the sound of totalitarian boots in the distance?
they’re coming here and they’re being worn by these low-life, scu%mbag democrats who think the 1917 revolution is still alive. (coup d’etat anyone?)
(they’ll try to get away with whatever they can and hide behind whatever they can to accomplish it)
“This sounds an awful lot like taxation without representation, if you ask me”
It sounds an awful lot like the first shot of the next rebellion if you ask me.
Uh jah, so to speak, you "true" conservatives got pelosi & co. with your insatiable quest for political perfection.
Don't blame me.
Those of us that care will.
A lie told often enough becomes truth.
It sure seems that lately they have been trying really hard to force the issue.
Why Dane, I’m flattered—and humbled—that you believe my cronies and I determined the election!
(blushing)
I haven’t seen anything along the lines of ‘open borders’ from him, so I can’t respond to that.
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