Posted on 05/09/2007 8:00:08 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
An Irish teenager who has fought an ongoing battle to come to Britain for an abortion has been granted permission to travel by the High Court in Dublin.
The unnamed 17-year-old, known only as "Miss D" who is four months' pregnant, had previously been denied the right to leave the country by Ireland's Health Service Executive, which had the girl in its care.
The authorities pledged to call the police and stop the teenager from undergoing the operation, so the girl went to the High Court in the hope of being granted permission to travel.
The unborn child has a condition meaning a major part of the brain, scalp and skull is missing and is only expected to survive for a few days after birth.
Opening the case, Eoghan Fitzsimons SC, for Miss D, told the court that it seems "to be most inhumane" to expect her to carry her baby full term.
Mr Fitzsimons told the court that if Miss D was not in the care of the HSE and her parents supported her decision for abortion, there was nothing to stop her travelling.
The Irish government is proposing to force her to be a saint in your book. And what kind of saint is that anyway?
An abortion is not “taking off of life support.” it involves active killing, like injecting poison into an IV tube.
One who lives up to her potential, one who does not abandon an innocent life to an abortionist. One who can face life’s challanges head on. One who knows the love of God can get her through anything.
Irish teen “wins” battle.
Irish teen’s baby loses battle.
And her parents are forcing her to kill her child? The idea that she is a free agent in this matter is absurd, as it is in so many cases of abortion.
I’m sorry for your loss as well.
However, medical mistakes are made everyday.
If we really believe that children in the womb are children, then yes, a mother should not be allowed to kill her child. Call it “force” if you like, but letting the baby live out of the womb, is letting the baby live. You, nor any medical doctor knows what is going on in the rest of the baby’s brain. We only use 10% of ours.
You are looking at a mother with a dead child. I am looking at a mother with a baby.
Why not just abort on any chance of disabillity? Or those babies who are born with CF and will die before their 10th birthday?
And please understand that the first test for problems gives the fact that there is a problem. It can be as simple as a slight curvature of the spine but will show a problem. This could easily be abused.
You are using the word force like it’s a bad thing. Laws are put in place and “enforced”.
I'm very sorry to hear that.
You mention irreparable brain damage, but is she brain-dead, with EEG flatline? Does she have no cranial nerve reflexes?
WTF, Netmilsmom?? You are completely flying off the handle here.
Where did I, or anyone else involved in this discussion, say anything about any other kind of disability? What possible relevance does cystic fibrosis have to an unborn child with NO BRAIN?
Can we please stay on topic here?
You're acting like NAARL when they refuse to say anything bad about partial birth abortion because they think it might threaten first-term abortion accessibility.
Would you stop with the “no brain” statement. Enough people have corrected you on this.
A family friend of ours conceived a child with a similar condition. Rather than abort the child, and pretend that the child was flawed or a mistake, the mother took the baby to term, gave him a name and birth certificate, and grieved over the child's loss a couple of days later. It is a much better solution than the denial of personhood that comes with abortion. The family experienced poignant joy rather than a hard heart. The family will remember forever their lost member. And the family experience no guilt from their actions. It is a proven fact that nearly all women experience guilt after an abortion.
And if she did? You have bought into the notion that brain-dead means that the humanity has fled or was never there. But this leads us to the opposite case. like Christopher Reeve’s , was he not as good as dead? What is the essential difference between a person whose brain is dead and whose body is essentially broken and useless? How do we treat people who are useless and whose existence is simply a burden?
From the article.
“The unborn child has a condition meaning a major part of the brain, scalp and skull is missing and is only expected to survive for a few days after birth. “
That baby has an incomplete brain.
“The problem with the “choice” people . . . “
The problem with “life” people . . .
I can picture a future where it is law that every woman of child bearing age be pregnant, “because it is God’s will”.
Mine would.
This is a sensitive subject for some.
It's a no brainer..it happens all the time, so it is understood that teenagers may become pregnant.
First, what I have read shows the child very "distraught" over the condition of her child, but not deemed suicidal.
I see no where that she was living with a parent and is under HSE services, therefore..they have an influential role to play.
The parent and boyfriend of said mother is involved and they have their influencial opinion and have taken a course of action. Therefore, the child's decision making.
The High Court has issued their direction. Again, the law has cast their decision.
Rights groups have their direction and are cast in stone.
The mother is a "child" with her life in turmoil and influenced and "used" by everyone around her. I see no where-that this teenager "wished to abort" if the child's odds were not terminal after birth
The medical community, professional(s) in care of said teenager, I am sure, have also played a part in the decision making.
Miss D, still a child herself, is being hit from all directions, by all those "influencial parties" thus stated above.
God bless your friend.
Poor choice of Headline, I agree.
Life is not a game as the cliche suggests.
How about if it was a man wanting to go to another country to have sex with a 7-year old? OK to stop him?
Agree..read post# 96
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