[neverdem]

Etruscan Heritage(haplogroup map)

European Pressphoto Agency
The ancient Etruscans may have migrated to Italy from the Near East, bringing sophisticated art, like the terra cotta statue of Apollo of Velo.
There's another pic from Corbis(verboten) on the regular webpage:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/science/03etruscan.html?ref=science

[sageb1]

ping!

[siunevada]

“Someone who had a different position didn’t get a job in archaeology,” said Antonio Torroni, a geneticist at the University of Pavia.

The world of academic freedom and science. So very pure and objective.

Interesting article

[neverdem]

New Crystalline Solids Can Reversibly Increase Their Volume More Than 3x;

Superbug Strain Claims First Life In Japan

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[SunkenCiv]

remarkable... the Lemnian Stele must be unheard of among these supposed scholars... the Ionian trade links and deity names... even the medusa head coins...

On The Origin Of The Etruscan Civilisation
New Scientist | 2-14-2007 | Michael Day
Posted on 02/14/2007 11:39:18 AM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1784716/posts

[kitchen]

Several new findings support a view held by the ancient Greek historian Herodotus — but unpopular among archaeologists — that the Etruscans originally migrated to Italy from the Near East.

I wish I had a dollar for every time current discoveries support Herodotus. Truly the father of history.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks neverdem. Herodotus wins again. :')

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[SunkenCiv]

Unique book goes on display BBC Monday, 26 May, 2003 The world's oldest multiple-page book - in the lost Etruscan language - has gone on display in Bulgaria's National History Museum in Sofia. It contains six bound sheets of 24 carat gold, with illustrations of a horse-rider, a mermaid, a harp and soldiers. The small manuscript, which is more than two-and-a-half millennia old, was discovered 60 years ago in a tomb uncovered during digging for a canal along the Strouma river in south-western Bulgaria... There are around 30 similar pages known in the world, Ms Penkova said, "but they are not linked together in a book".

[AlmaKing]

Where does the article get 510 BC as the founding of the ‘Roman Republic’?

The founding of Rome has always been dated as 753 BC.

The society started off as a kingdom, then became a republic, then an empire.

[Republican Party Reptile]

“Sharing wives is an established Etruscan custom,” wrote the Greek historian Theopompos of Chios in the fourth century B.C. “Etruscan women take particular care of their bodies and exercise often. It is not a disgrace for them to be seen naked. Further, they dine not with their own husbands, but with any men who happen to be present.”

He added that Etruscan women “are also expert drinkers and are very good looking.”

Etruscan Gone Wild ....

Now where did I park the time machine???

[marsh2]

I always thought Victir Mature looked like an Etruscan http://ia.ec.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/62/55/22m.jpg

[ChicagoHebrew]

The Murlo residents’ lineages are quite different from those of people in other Italian towns. When placed on a chart of mitochondrial lineages from Europe and the Near East, the people of Murlo map closest to Palestinians and Syrians, a team led by Dr. Torroni and Alessandro Achilli reports in the April issue of The American Journal of Human Genetics.

There is a well-established Rabbinic tradition that Rome emerged partially from Edom, a sister nation to Israel that inhabited portions of present-day Israel and Jordan. I've always thought the tradition quite improbable, even fanciful, and probably deriving from Rome's decision to put an Edomite (Herod) on the throne of Judea. This study, I suppose, gives the Rabbis at least a drop of credibility -- although given that Etruscan isn't Semetic either, just a drop.

[Ben Ficklin]

bump

[Tallguy]

Greek historian Theopompos of Chios in the fourth century B.C. “Etruscan women take particular care of their bodies and exercise often. It is not a disgrace for them to be seen naked. Further, they dine not with their own husbands, but with any men who happen to be present.”

He added that Etruscan women “are also expert drinkers and are very good looking.”

...wondering if Theopompos had his "4th Century BC Beer Goggles" on?

[Sam Ketcham]

You have to be awfully nearsighted to think a woman looking like that statue was beautiful.

[wildbill]

How’s this for a theory?

The Egyptians originally coined the name “Peoples of the Sea” for the foreign contingents that the Libyans brought in to support their attack on Egypt in c. 1220 BC during the reign of Pharaoh Merneptah. In the records of that war, five Sea Peoples are named: the Shardana, Teresh, Lukka, Shekelesh and Ekwesh, and are collectively referred to as “northerners coming from all lands”. The evidence for their exact origins is extremely sparse, but archaeologists specializing in this period have proposed the following:

The Shardana may have originated in northern Syria, but later moved to Cyprus and probably eventually ended up as the Sardinians.

The Teresh and Lukka were probably from western Anatolia, and may correspond to the ancestors of the later Lydians and Lycians, respectively. However, the Teresh may also have been the people later known to the Greeks as the Tyrsenoi, i.e., the Etruscans, and already familiar to the Hittites as the Taruisa, which latter is suspiciously similar to the Greek Troia. I won’t speculate on how this fits in with the Aeneas legend.

Sorta fits with the article we’re discussing with the exception of the years. But dating can be off sometimes as new cultures at different locations arise.

[RightWhale]

Heroditus was a collector of myths and folktales. Entertaining, but not history.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Probably the most significant invention in the history of architecture: The Etruscan Arch.

[Antoninus]

Ping...

[SunkenCiv]

uh, one of *those* topics, it just sorta came up...

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[Ptarmigan]

Etruscan language is a language isolate like Ainu, Basque, and Sumerian. That Etruscan face looks like a mix of Caucasian and Mongoloid.