Iraq TV: Car bomb at soccer field kills 18 children.

MSNBC ^

[Irontank]

Just a headline on MSNBC's site at this point

[Night Hides Not]

They are desperate. The surge is working.

Agree completely. The terrorists have "evolved" from blowing up mosques to blowing up children.

How long will it take for Muslim parents to start loving their children more than they hate Jews/Christians/Americans, etc?

[Arcy]

Chaulk it up to the peace loving religion of Islam.

[capitalist229]

The surge is working.

Bush's fault.

BUMP

[ex-snook]

If they want to kill each other, let's get out of the way.

[Deo volente]

This is the most frustrating war scenario that I can imagine.

We need to hammer the enemy into the ground and destroy them utterly. The problem is, in order to do that, we'll have to destroy half the country of Iraq.
We can't do that, since we have committed ourselves to bringing them "democracy" and rebuilding them in our image. So our soldiers are stuck in a position of "policing" neighborhoods, and trying to help the incompetent Iraqi military to defend their country. Most of our soldiers have been killed by roadside bombs while driving around the country.

You can't have it both ways. In a war, the object is to destroy the enemy.
But the enemy consists of all sorts of groups such as Al-Qaeda, Iranian and Syrian backed fighters, former Baathists, and other assorted bad guys. To get them all, you have to kill large numbers of innocent Iraqis in the process.
The only sure way to defeat them is to disarm them, and that is logistically impossible. You'd have to round up every person in the country, and that's 25 million people.

And the enormous loss of life to our soldiers that would result while fighting house-to-house is unacceptable to the American people at this point in time.
The whole thing is a mess, and I don't see any good way to victory at this point.

And I haven't even taken into account the hatred and blood lust that has been ongoing for about a thousand years, more or less, between Sunnis and Shiites.
Or the burning desire of the Kurds for an independent country in the north.

This is a lose-lose situation, and how many more hundreds of billions are we going to pour down the drain?

[Types_with_Fist]

How long will it take for Muslim parents to start loving their children more than they hate Jews/Christians/Americans, etc?

The guess here is another 1000 years.

[batter]

This proves the MSM/Hollywood types are right. These guys behave just like the 'freedom fighters' of the US Revolution. </sarcasm>

This is sad. Pray the parents may be comforted in their grief.

[rlmorel]

ping for later response

[guido911]

This cuts it. I have had it with this religion of peace. Islam is a religion of cowardice. I am going to say this, which I have been reluctant to say, but the enemy of this Country and indeed humanity is Islam.

[tobyhill]

Al-Qaeda always overplay their hands and since these were mostly Sunni children it will put a bigger divide between the tribes and Al-Qaeda.

[zarf]

Al-Quaeda doesn't do "nuance" do they?

Really stupid move.

[Night Hides Not]

Your last two posts are depressing, but on the mark. This is the kind of discussion/debate that we need to have out in the open, but neither party is willing to truly debate.

The rest of the world does not see us through Admiral Yamamoto's eyes, i.e. America as a sleeping giant you don't want to anger. We will not rekindle that spirit through nonbinding resolutions and political correctness.

[VeniVidiVici]

The MSM hypes that the Iraqis want us gone.

They want us gone as we're not tough enough to deal with this crap.

Thank you Democrats.

[TBP]

Sympathies to these kids' families.

[daybreakcoming]

Gee I can't wait to hear CAIR come out and strongly angrily condemn this. How can anything human do this? And to think that Pelosi, Inc. believe they can "dialogue" with them?

millstone. neck. lake

[sheik yerbouty]

Localized radiotherapy might be a start in curing this..

[sheik yerbouty]

It is simply their nature..

[mass55th]

This story has been changed as conflicting reports have come in. According to the US military, the "bomb" was a controlled explosion by U.S. troops, not a car/suicide bomb, and there were only minor injuries...cuts and bruises...no deaths. I'm sure it will be a while before the true story comes out. Once again the drive-by media does it's job.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Link,,,?

[mass55th]

I found it by clicking on the MSNBC link accompanying the original posting, but they've since moved it here:

U.S. Disputes Report