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Turks Have Law Against Inciting Racial Hatred? Who Knew?
The Stiletto ^ | February 26, 2007 | The Stiletto

Posted on 02/27/2007 4:10:07 AM PST by theothercheek

Hilmi Aydogdu, a Kurd who heads the Democratic Society Party's branch in the mainly Kurdish city of Diyarbakir was arrested and charged by Turkish authorities with “threatening public safety by inciting racial enmity and hatred,” reports The Associated Press. Aydogdu allegedly made remarks suggesting that if Turkey attacks Iraqi Kurds in the oil-rich city of Kirkuk, 20 million Turkish Kurds would consider it an attack on Diyarbakir.

The Stiletto is surprised that there is such a law in Turkey. Hrant Dink’s assassin, Ogun Samast, shouted “I shot the Armenian” after he gunned the journalist down right in front of his newspaper’s offices in Istanbul last month – and the police at the local stationhouse took turns posing with him holding a Turkish flag in front of a calendar depicting an image of Kemal Ataturk. To The Stiletto’s knowledge, neither the murderer nor any of the police taking souvenir photos with their hero have been charged with inciting racial enmity and hatred (second item, The Daily Blade, February 5, 2007).

Meanwhile, a new report has surfaced suggesting that the police chief of the town of Trabzon – a nationalist stronghold – ordered the hit on Dink.

NOTE: In case I did not put all the links in correctly, this is the second item in a feature called The Daily Blade, and follows an article titled, "Why Scooter Libby Is Not Guilty Beyond A Reasonable Doubt."


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armeniangenocide; hrantdink; kurds; thestiletto; thestilettoblog; turkey

1 posted on 02/27/2007 4:10:09 AM PST by theothercheek
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To: theothercheek

Aydogdu: What a name. I would change that one.


2 posted on 02/27/2007 4:12:47 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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ping for later..


3 posted on 02/27/2007 4:14:54 AM PST by kellynch ("Our only freedom is the freedom to discipline ourselves." -- Bernard Baruch)
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To: sgtbono2002

To what? The women's names are just as, um, unfortunate: Tulin Daloglu. Imagine what a cutie she must be.


4 posted on 02/27/2007 4:17:27 AM PST by theothercheek
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To: theothercheek

Speech laws like that are selectively used by ruling governments (Turks) to deal with opponents. I wonder how many Turks get prosecuted under that law for comments about Kurds or Armenians.


5 posted on 02/27/2007 4:20:16 AM PST by Nextrush (Chris Matthews Band: "I get high....I get high.....I get high....McCain.")
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To: theothercheek

Of course they do. Muslims see all races as equal (Black, White, Asian, etc.), as long as the person is muslim. This is not to be confused with religious hatred or hatred of other nationalities, which they spew forth in volumes of vile prejudice and antimosity.


6 posted on 02/27/2007 4:24:32 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Nextrush
I wonder how many Turks get prosecuted under that law for comments about Kurds or Armenians.

My guess is none. Of course this is the exact opposite of the practice in the U.S., where the majority is considered to be fair game.

7 posted on 02/27/2007 4:26:12 AM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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To: Nextrush

I think more than 60 writers - journalists and fiction writers - have been prosecuted under Article 301. In one case a character in a novel spoke of the Armenian Genocide. Nobel Prize laureat Orhan Pamuk received death threats after acknowledging Turkey's mass killings of Armenians and Kurds and the Turkish government gave him protection. Hrant Dink also received death threats, and when he asked for protection he was denied. Then he was gunned down and his body was left in the street for all to see for nearly an hour - let that be a lesson to those damned Armenians and anyone who dares to talk about the Genocide! - before police bothered to get there to secure the crime scene and remove the bullet-riddled corpse.


8 posted on 02/27/2007 4:27:30 AM PST by theothercheek
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To: BuffaloJack

Kurds are mostly Muslim, although there are religious minorities.


9 posted on 02/27/2007 4:32:53 AM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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To: BuffaloJack

Armenians are a special case. The Ottoman Turks almost wiped out every one of them in a series of pogroms starting in the mid 1800s that killed 250,000 to 300,000 at a clip, culminating in the Armenian Genocide 1915-1917 that was supposed to - and nearly did - finish the job. It must wound them in their Turkish pride that they came so close to achieving their goal of making the Armenians extinct but ultimately failed. They're just itching to finish what they started.


10 posted on 02/27/2007 4:33:21 AM PST by theothercheek
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To: theothercheek; Christopher Lincoln

Turks and Armenians fall into the nationality category for hatred by muslims. Muslims don't hate by race, they hate by nationality and religious preference.


11 posted on 02/27/2007 4:36:56 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: BuffaloJack

Turkey is supposed to be "secular," even though it's 99.8 percent Muslim. The Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire were atheistic, but cynically used Muslim hatred of Christians to incide their fellow Turks to help them carry out the Genocide. Kemal Attaturk who formed the modern state of Turkey from the ashes of the Ottoman Empire was secular - but with Nationalism and Islamism both ascendant in Turkey today, the future does not look good for the few remaining Armenians who live there. Apparently secularism has not overcome Turks' natural inclinations towards barbarism.


12 posted on 02/27/2007 4:58:40 AM PST by theothercheek
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To: theothercheek

Daloglu is still better than Aye dog doo.


13 posted on 02/27/2007 5:51:21 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Well, "Turk" and "Turd" are separated by only one letter ... (oops, this could get me arrested or killed in Turkey; I'm so glad I'm living in the USA.)


14 posted on 02/27/2007 6:00:38 AM PST by theothercheek
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To: sgtbono2002

I just thought of something: "Kurd" and "Turd" are also separated by one letter. But in Turkey, only my previous observation would merit arrest and conviction - after which some nationalist would probably assassinate me. See, it's only a crime when Turks are insulted, not anyone else. Which is why just days after Hrant Dink's assassination, cheerleaders rallied an entire soccer stadium with anti-Armenian chants and not one single person was arrested for inciting racial hatred. This sword only cuts one way.


15 posted on 02/27/2007 6:30:14 AM PST by theothercheek
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To: sgtbono2002
Aydogdu: What a name. I would change that one.

Actually, it has meaning: "Moon-born", I would guess. Real problem is that this guy is a Kurd and the name is Turkish. Guess he doesn't mind it that much.

16 posted on 02/27/2007 8:47:44 AM PST by thulldud ("Para inglés, oprima el dos.")
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To: thulldud

Armenians living in Turkey often have Turkish names, too. Given Turkey's track record with persecuting and killing its minority populations, I guess they think it helps them blend in better.


17 posted on 02/27/2007 5:27:05 PM PST by theothercheek
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To: theothercheek
Y'know, I didn't realize until I was driving home how he was reading that name. I've been looking at Turkish so long I automatically substituted the "yumusak g", and didn't see the joke.

But as for Kurds, etc. using Turkish names, it occurs to me to wonder for how long now their languages have actually been "legal" to use in the media, or in school. Not very.

That sort of thing tends to suck all the oxygen out of the party atmosphere.

18 posted on 02/28/2007 10:02:51 AM PST by thulldud ("Para inglés, oprima el dos.")
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To: thulldud

Here's another downer: Armenian schoolchildren in Turkey - who lost family members in the Genocide - are required to recite "The Turkish Oath" every morning. "I am a Turk. I am hardworking ..."


19 posted on 02/28/2007 9:27:16 PM PST by theothercheek
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To: theothercheek

A law against inciting racial hatred?

That's a joke coming from a culture that invented invented modern mass racial/religious genocide.


20 posted on 03/08/2007 9:32:41 PM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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