What is wrong with intelligent design?

EurekAlert! ^ | 22-Feb-2007 | Suzanne Wu

[Wakeup Sleeper]

It is not riddled with errors, why do you insist on being dishonest? Shall I give you another? Anyone out there should look up www.bible.ca get a creation scientist and an evolutionist and the evolutionist wont even show up for the debate. as amatter of fact this has been doen already, a man has proposed a debate on national television and to get an evolutionist to debate him on evolution and not one evolutionist would step up to the plate.

[Wakeup Sleeper]

Why do you make darwin your indenty as an evolutionist, when he contributed nothing but junk! Address the pangene issue for me, and make me laugh! and the fact that darwin was a racist and his friends were propagandists.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

darwin was a racist and his friends were propagandists.

and his mama dressed him funny.

[andysandmikesmom]

And dont forget, Darwin recanted on his deathbed...

[Wakeup Sleeper]

Hey Riddler? yes Ive seen an intersection but if you are going in a certain direction that must be followed in order to get were you are trying to go in the most best of way there will be only one road you can choose, you cant just pick and choose and expect to get there in the proper and efficiently.

Cola is cola and the rest are spin offs of the origional.

Three canidates, but only one wins, unless you think you can recount the hanging chads with God, but what you dont realise is God is the righteous judge so you wont be playing baby games with Him.

[Coyoteman]

Anyone out there should look up www.bible.ca get a creation scientist and an evolutionist and the evolutionist wont even show up for the debate.

Scientific debate is not conducted in front of live audiences, like some circus sideshow. Showmanship and a glib delivery have no value in science. Try a revival.

Science is conducted in scientific journals. These occupy whole floors of major libraries.

Here are a few of the journals pertaining to evolution. How many are you familiar with?

American Journal of Human Biology
American Journal of Human Genetics
American Journal of Physical Anthropology
The Anatomical Record Part A
Annals of Human Biology
Annals of Human Genetics
Annual Review of Genomics and Human Genetics
Anthropological Science
Anthropologie
L' Anthropologie
Archaeometry
Behavior Genetics
Behavioral Ecology and Sociobiology
Biological Psychology
Biology and Philosophy
BMC Evolutionary Biology
Current Anthropology
Current Biology
Economics and Human Biology
Ethnic and Racial Studies
European Journal of Human Genetics
Evolution and Human Behavior
Evolutionary Anthropology
Forensic Science International
Gene
Genetical Research
Genetics
Genome Research
Heredity
Homo
Human Biology
Human Heredity
Human Genetics
Human Genomics
Human Molecular Genetics
Human Mutation
International Journal of Osteoarchaeology
Journal of Anthropological Archaeology
Journal of Archaeological Science
Journal of Biosocial Science
Journal of Ethnic and Migration Studies
Journal of Human Evolution
Journal of Human Genetics
Journal of Molecular Evolution
Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute
Molecular Biology and Evolution
Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution
Nature
Nature Genetics
Nature Reviews Genetics
PLoS Biology
PLoS Genetics
Proceedings of The Royal Society: Biological Sciences
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
Russian Journal of Genetics
Science
Trends in Genetics

[Celtjew Libertarian]

Hey Riddler? yes Ive seen an intersection but if you are going in a certain direction that must be followed in order to get were you are trying to go in the most best of way there will be only one road you can choose, you cant just pick and choose and expect to get there in the proper and efficiently.

Depends on the layout of the streets and the traffic flow. Often there are alternate routes that get you where you're going just as quick.

There's also the question of whether you want to take the fast route or the scenic route -- but they both get you to the same place.

Cola is cola and the rest are spin offs of the origional.

You, sir, are clearly not a connoisseur.

Three canidates, but only one wins,

Unless it's for, say, two posts on a city commission with the two highest vote-getters getting the seats.

unless you think you can recount the hanging chads with God, but what you dont realise is God is the righteous judge so you wont be playing baby games with Him.

Just because God is righteous, doesn't mean he doesn't play wordgames. Check out Jeremiah 1:11-12.

[Coyoteman]

Since you are on a posting frenzy, perhaps you could address two points I brought up earlier.

In post #465 and several others, I asked you:

How many "intelligent designers" were there, and what is your justification for your answer?

If you have so much science at your disposal, you should at least be able to answer that question.

And in post #510 I noted:

I am beginning to wonder if you are for real. None of the other creationists on the site are quite as in-your-face-far-out as you are.

If someone was trying to mimic the bad characteristics of creationists, and take them to the most ridiculous extreme possible, I imagine they would post somewhat like you do.

Are you willing to address either of these points?

[Wakeup Sleeper]

Darwin did say, that the fact that there was no evidnce to his claims that it would have to be that they would find them later because there wasnt any evidence, and over a hundred years later steven J gould pretty much said the same thing!

Atheist/evolutionists in history

Adolph Hitler

Stalin

Lennin

Ku Klux Klan

abortionists

cloners

euphanists

etc...etc...
Did you know that Darwin was a racist? a womaniser? and believed in not helping the sick?

Did you know darwins family was riddled with drug abuse and alcohlism and infidelity in which his grandFather had two illigitmite children inwhich his wife whom he cheated on died from a massive over dose of opium while she was intoxicated that he administered and it was said of Anna Seward that he was a tyrant it was said that darwins father was a ruthless wealthy bussinisman etc...etc...

Read about the upbringing of Darwin!

[Wakeup Sleeper]

look at what makes the most sense and you will see it is the God spoken of in the bible, he is the intelligent designer just as the bible speaks of over a thousands of years of recording the bible inwhich it spoke of Christ before Christ and it ended after Christ and then Christianity broke out everywhere. This dont happen with mythology! Including historians who wrote of the event spoken of in the bible who had nothing to do with the bible, the archeaology, inwhich they find to be absolutly accurate to a tee to what the bible speaks of and the history is remarkable, this doesnt happen with mythology. Take an honest look my friend! Peace!

[Coyoteman]

look at what makes the most sense and you will see it is the God spoken of in the bible, he is the intelligent designer just as the bible speaks of over a thousands of years of recording the bible inwhich it spoke of Christ before Christ and it ended after Christ and then Christianity broke out everywhere. This dont happen with mythology! Including historians who wrote of the event spoken of in the bible who had nothing to do with the bible, the archeaology, inwhich they find to be absolutly accurate to a tee to what the bible speaks of and the history is remarkable, this doesnt happen with mythology. Take an honest look my friend! Peace!

Apologetics.

No other response to my post #528?

[Wakeup Sleeper]

The fast route or the scenic route? In life the scenic route could be defined as a life of hardship sure you might get there but you will pay for it, and regardless you will have to head in only one direction, its not a matter of playing symantics games, it is the direction you are going, you are heading to a specific destination, you must specificaly go in that direction and no other way will suffice, so what I said there are no third roads, you either take the road of the only truth in Christ, or take the alternitives which lead to seperation of God! Christ said there is only one way to the Father and thats through Him, no other paths will acomodate!

[Wakeup Sleeper]

First you say all I have are appologetics and then I show you once again websites and even you say that Im a poster who is earger to post, well those site are science. so I realy dont get what you are trying to say. There is only one true God look at the evidence and put two and two together! Peace!

[Coyoteman]

well those site are science...

Those sites are apologetics, and anti-science.

Only a very few creationists take them seriously.

Not going to answer my questions?

[andysandmikesmom]

There are no facts coming from you, just a lot of hysteria, terrible spelling, awful grammar, a lack of any common knowledge about anything, a lack of scientific knowledge, a lack of historical knowledge, and a lack of Biblical knowledge...

Yep, that just about covers it...you are a hysterical person, who knows very little about anything, and you are quite proud of showing off your lack of knowledge, and doing it with awful spelling and grammar...

You are good for a laugh, and useful for pointing out how one should NOT argue for the creationist side,(because frankly, you are an embarrassment to that side of the argument)....so you do serve a purpose, you serve to bolster the very side you wish to argue against...good going there...

[Central Scrutiniser]

Not pouting about anything, I have decades and decades of provable, testable and peer review science, you just have a bunch of people saying "Its a miracle!!!!"

[Celtjew Libertarian]

you either take the road of the only truth in Christ, or take the alternitives which lead to seperation of God!

Whoa! Now who isn't reading the Bible?

Deuteronomy 6:4: "Hear, Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One."

And here you are, saying that God will separate. How many pieces do you think God will separate into, if we "take the alternitives"?

[MHalblaub]

"How many time do I have to bear with the war is bout oil, and Bushes oil interests."

I wrote: "There are countries with a worser humanitarian situation but with less oil." An act of aggression like 9/11 or a genocide is a case for war. For me the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan was legitimate, the war against Iraq is not.

"When hitler was in power you same type came back with, we neglected jumping right in there and save those from the concentration camps,[...]"

There are concentration camps in North Korea, China and Cuba, Guantánamo Bay ...
Your claim of Hitler and the German concentration camps doesn't make any sense. The war started before the concentration camps changed to extermination camp.

"[...]you dont like bush because he is generaly a more moral stance president!"

For me he lost his moral stance with the Iraq war.


May we argue about that topic within another thread?

[si tacuissem]

Common Spelling	Wake-up's Version
Adolf Hitler	Adolph Hitler
Stalin	Stalin
Lenin	Lennin

Wow, one out of three - it's an improvement! Though you were lucky not to use the names Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov and Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili .

OTOH, it's doubtful that they were "Darwinists".

BTW, are you still working on the list of your post #338, you know, the one with thousands of scientists and historians and archeaologists who use to be eager in disproving the bible and later changed their minds?

[MHalblaub]

"If you do things the way God said to do them then you dont suffer phsycologicaly or physicaly, [...]"

Holy s***! Now I know why my XP crashes from time to time. God made no manual for XP. Thanks for enlightening me!


"[...]homosexual behaiviour has an extrememly high rate of drug use, alchoholic,disease and suicide."

Unsupported claims from you like expected.


"If something is dangerous without the supposed safety assistance of a mans invention/condom then that tells you it aint normal/natural. Peace!"

So sex and homosexuality is not natural? Please!

Just because your reading of a bible makes something a sin doesn't make it unnatural. There is homosexuality within animals. So what is that? Sinful animals? And just in the case you want to ask. I'm not.


C.c. Intelligent design is as intelligent as reading the bible as a science book.