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Can a Traditional American Conservative Win the Presidency and Secure the Nation and our Liberty?
Vanity Opinion | Feb 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/21/2007 6:15:41 AM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Antoninus

I will vote for a conservative and Duncan Hunter fits that bill!


241 posted on 02/21/2007 9:18:59 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Beagle8U

Well, put it this way. He wants the US to vanquish its enemies. His stand on the 2nd amendment is one of 3 main reasons he is unacceptable to me.


242 posted on 02/21/2007 9:19:39 AM PST by pissant
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To: GrandEagle
I believe that such a candidate would win with an overwhelming majority so that the message to Congress would be clear. Is there such a Candidate in the running is the big question.

Yes. For your consideration, please see the link at post #14 and the list at post #181.

243 posted on 02/21/2007 9:23:55 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Hallelujah! After 20+ years, a REAL conservative I can support 4 President - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: NathanR

Would you be upset to be proven wrong in the coming months?


244 posted on 02/21/2007 9:27:12 AM PST by william clark (DH4WH - Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: pissant
"His stand on the 2nd amendment is one of 3 main reasons he is unacceptable to me."

I agree, and it also prevents me from referring to someone as a Patriot if they hold that position on RTKBA.
245 posted on 02/21/2007 9:28:45 AM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......R. W. Reagan made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: pissant
I was looking at his website a few days ago.
I do like most of what I saw very much. If memory serves me correct it was a post from you that caused me to look into him. - Thanks.
Unfortunately the "lets just get somebody Republican" gang will probably consider him unelectable.
246 posted on 02/21/2007 9:30:07 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Jim Robinson

When you are interested in something you do it only when it is convenient.
When you are committed, you accept only results, not excuses.
Ken Blanchard


247 posted on 02/21/2007 9:30:12 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"At any rate, what both sides seem to be ignoring in their fight for the mushy middle may be the 2nd most critical issue of all and an overlooked opportunity for the big win. And that is the fact that half or more of all Americans, regardless of party affiliation, are fed up with illegal aliens flooding into our country through our almost non existent border security. And this during time of war."

The front runners are missing a GREAT opportunity. And it's so obvious.

If a proven conservative with charisma who can beat Hillary enters the race, I will be first in line to support him/her.

248 posted on 02/21/2007 9:36:27 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Rudy is a democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: zook; Antoninus; OB1kNOb; MadIvan; Jim Noble; Jim Robinson
I'll try to respond in the order received:

OB1kNOb:
Care to elaborate on the "conservative rights or definitions" that Jim failed to mention? I'm curious as to what he forgot to list.

I didn't say JR failed to mention any rights. I implied that JR has issues with the definition of rights; so let me make it clearer. It is not possible to campaign on a demand for protection of our rights while at the same time throwing stones at gays and others who believe they should have equal rights as well.

Antoninus
You guys are proving my point more and more--scratch a liberal, find an anti-Christian bigot underneath.

Harrowup identified himself as a "Democrat". I for one am not in the habit of taking cues from people who have sold their souls to advance the socialist Culture of Death. You're not apt to get good advice from people who hate you.

"Brown people who need a job?" -- Just say it--Christian conservatives are "Racist, homophobic, misogynist bigots."
Come on. You know you want to.

Lump all the Culture of Life/Culture of Death issues together, and that's what you'll get. If you want to see the GOP dissolve, watch what happens if (God forbid!), Rudy gets the nomination. It will not be pretty. Which is why I'm urging pragmatic, well-intentioned Republicans and conservatives to abandon Team-Rudy now.

Given your bombast, you don't sound pragmatic, let alone well-intentioned. Flame someone else. I'm older, smarter and too good looking to take childish baiting from a Democrat candidate's best soundbites for reelection. We pay good money to people to say things like you do.

Jim Robinson
Huh? Where is a woman's right to kill her unborn child listed in the constitution? It's not there. It's a made up "right" forced on us by a liberal activist court. If you wish a constitutional right to kill children, you'd better start working on amending the constitution to allow it. Good luck with that.

A woman has a right to choose and while your opinion is valid, by insisting she does not have that right you are imposing your will over something that is none of your business.

Gays have the same rights as everyone else.

Then stop insisting candidates campaign against gay rights

Illegal aliens have the right not to be harmed before being deported. Period.

Building a wall isn't going to do that. Economic opportunity will.

And, finally, while I don't happen to trust former Mayor Juliannie, some of you might be wise to notice the pleas for reason from some folks like MadIvan and JimNoble who understand what it takes to be a Republican in a city like New York.

And, finally, finally, I have no dog in this race. I don't want Hillary Clinton in the White House and some of you guys are not helping with your rhetoric.

249 posted on 02/21/2007 9:38:52 AM PST by harrowup (I invite Gore to solve the Hillary-Barack problem by announcing in August...)
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To: TAdams8591

Duncan Hunter is that man


250 posted on 02/21/2007 9:47:37 AM PST by pissant
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To: Antoninus

What people feel after they watch a video like the one you describe and what they feel a week, a month, or a year later may not be at all the same.

Also, you won't be able to get people to watch the video. We have students here at PSU who each year put up photos of unborn children and the impact of abortion. I'd say that a majority of students either don't look or become angry that anyone would dare post such images.

Then there are those who regardless of how badly they feel about abortion, simply won't deny others the "right" to have one, especially in cases of rape, incest, very early pregnancy, etc.

So, while I'm not saying your wrong, I'm suggesting that I'm not so confident in the power of these images. Let's say we ran them on TV every night in ads (assuming the networks would ever go along). Can't you imagine the angry backlash against the groups putting them on the air?


251 posted on 02/21/2007 9:52:08 AM PST by zook
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To: OB1kNOb

Re. your photo.

You may see it and I may see it, but apparently either not everyone does or else we are overlooking the ability of people to rationalize such moral issues away.


252 posted on 02/21/2007 9:53:58 AM PST by zook
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To: pissant

Sorry, pissant, he's not. While he's right on the issues, he hasn't the charisma or ability to defeat Hillary. In the coming months that is going to become increasing clear.


253 posted on 02/21/2007 9:54:06 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Rudy is a democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: harrowup
"And, finally, while I don't happen to trust former Mayor Juliannie, some of you might be wise to notice the pleas for reason from some folks like MadIvan and JimNoble who understand what it takes to be a Republican in a city like New York."

It's not about being a Republican in NY, it's about being President of the whole United States of America!

"Then stop insisting candidates campaign against gay rights."

It's NOT about gay rights, it's about giving gays MORE (special) rights than they already have--that's all it is!
254 posted on 02/21/2007 9:54:19 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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Bookmark.


255 posted on 02/21/2007 9:56:11 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

No matter which traditional conservative American it is that gets the nod, they'd better start getting some real facetime real soon.

If they're unknowns now, a Rasmussen says they are, then they've got about 6 months to become household names.


256 posted on 02/21/2007 9:56:22 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: TAdams8591

Hold the phone. You're actually saying that somebody on the Republican side runs second to Hillary in charisma?

LOL


257 posted on 02/21/2007 9:56:23 AM PST by william clark (DH4WH - Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: TAdams8591

Yes, it will become increasingly clear. But just the opposite of your prediction. See you when the bandwagon comes by.


258 posted on 02/21/2007 9:57:05 AM PST by pissant
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To: GrandEagle

Yep, the naysayers will just eat a little crow this time.


259 posted on 02/21/2007 10:00:53 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

I'd love it if I were wrong. : )


260 posted on 02/21/2007 10:02:53 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Rudy is a democrat in Republican drag.)
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