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Treasure Emerges From The Mud Of History (Psalter - Ireland)
Times On Line ^ | 1-2-2007 | Dalya Alberg

Posted on 01/02/2007 3:18:34 PM PST by blam

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1 posted on 01/02/2007 3:18:37 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 01/02/2007 3:19:08 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

There was a time when that is about all a private person could have in his possession of the Bible. The Psalms. Maybe Proverbs and Song of Solomon.


3 posted on 01/02/2007 3:20:46 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: blam
It testifies to the incredible richness of the early Christian civilisation of this island and to the greatness of ancient Ireland.

Celtic culture was amazing - what a history.

4 posted on 01/02/2007 3:39:47 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: RightWhale
There was a small local war fought over a book of the bible.
St Columbine-if I recall correctly--who was both a prince and a monk, loaned someone a copy of, I believe, the gospel of St. John. The loanee made a copy of it. Columbine found out about it and asserted his ownership of the copy, since it was made from his book. The loanee declined to part with it--reasonably, from my viewpoint--and Columbine the prince began a small war over it. In the end some abbot stepped in and stopped it and banished him. Cast out, he became a missionary to northern europe, Aix au Chappell, I think? (Confirmation or correction anyone?)
5 posted on 01/02/2007 3:43:10 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Other way around wrt St. Columba or Columkille:

Legend has it that Columba's exile was an act of penance, and that he deliberately chose an island out of sight of his beloved Ireland. During a visit to Moville, Columba is said to have secretly copied a book of psalms. When Finnian discovered this, he insisted on having the copy. Columba refused to hand it over, and their dispute was referred to the high king, Diarmuid, who ruled: "To every cow her calf, and to every book its copy". Columba already resented Diarmuid for slaying a youth to whom the saint had given sanctuary and he persuaded his kinsmen to wage war. Diarmuid was defeated at Cuildreimhne, Co. Sligo and Columba was blamed for the hundreds of dead. When a synod called on him to make amends by converting an equal number of pagans, he opted to work among the Picts of Scotland.
Columba of Iona
6 posted on 01/02/2007 4:13:42 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Entirely possible.

Wiki--
C'est à Aix qu'arriva en 802 l'éléphant blanc, présent du calife de Bagdad Harun ar-Rachid. L'empereur fut enterré dans cette chapelle en 814.

LOL. Aix means water, from the old Latin--It was a Roman camp first.

7 posted on 01/02/2007 4:14:48 PM PST by RightWhale
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Ping


8 posted on 01/02/2007 6:36:24 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Happily corrected! Thank you!

(Alas, my memory fades!)


9 posted on 01/02/2007 6:57:30 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: RightWhale

Alas, I have recalled 2 saints who did different things!
It was some other Irish saint who went as missionary to northern europe!


10 posted on 01/02/2007 7:01:12 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: blam
Thanks Blam. This is more or less similar to How A Manuscript Found In An Irish Peat Bog Was Saved (Psalms), so I'm only going to add it to the catalog. :')

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11 posted on 01/02/2007 11:08:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Ahmedumbass and the mullahcracy is doomed. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 01/02/2007 11:26:10 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: ffusco
The psalter, found last July, is now in cold storage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I bet there is an interesting story on how it was found.

13 posted on 01/02/2007 11:27:53 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: ffusco
I thought I would post a picture from the facsimile edition of the Book of Kells , available on new vellum, cheap at $18,000 dollars US. ( I have been trying to figure out a way to get it for our school library for several years.) Few people see this art, and it is truly beautiful.During the 8th Century,the old imagry from the ancient Irish culture was still alive, and there is a sense of it in the work. The magic of it jumps off the page, right at you.

Fol. 7v: Virgin and Child. The miniature stands at the beginning of St. Matthew's Gospel. Mary rocks the infant Jesus in her arms who turns to look at his mother. Four angels surround mother and child. Between them semi-circles filled with interlaces. The scene is framed with interlacing zoomorphic designs. This type of depiction is most rare for a Gospel Book.

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Fol. 182v/183r: Embellished text page initiating the narrative on the Crucifixion according to St. Mark (15,24).

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14 posted on 01/02/2007 11:56:14 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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Thanks!


15 posted on 01/03/2007 4:45:44 AM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I was just reading about St. Columba recently, that's all -- happened to remember it. Cute little book of saints for kids - called "Saints for All Seasons".


16 posted on 01/03/2007 8:49:10 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Sounds like it. Get the info to them early. I don't think I could engage my children about the saints any longer.


17 posted on 01/04/2007 5:09:21 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (It was the lady with all the pretty pictures...)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Well, I'm batting about 50 percent.

My 16 year old son is going through an atheistic phase.

My 18 year old daughter wants to join Opus Dei. Go figure.

18 posted on 01/04/2007 7:52:36 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
If you are lucky, your daughter will bring home a friend from Opus Dei and your son will be come interested in her friend and why she is interested in God.

On the other hand, I went through a phase and screwed up my life, which led me to start looking at Christianity again.
If I had to do it again I would prefer something like the first. I hope it works out well for him.
19 posted on 01/05/2007 3:32:21 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
It may be a "boy thing". He is the most bull headed kid I ever saw in my life.

I've got him in contact with a youth minister who happens to be from another denomination but is a godly man -- also in the Navy Sea Cadets with a bunch of good role models -- we're trying!

(A nice Catholic girl from my daughter's orbit would be a GOOD thing too!)

20 posted on 01/05/2007 4:26:31 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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