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Text of KGB Letter on Senator Ted Kennedy
The Crusader - Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism | 2006 | Paul Kengor (excerpt - Appendix Page 317)

Posted on 12/31/2006 5:29:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Incredible. Thanks for posting that.


101 posted on 12/31/2006 1:34:44 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bttt


102 posted on 12/31/2006 2:21:07 PM PST by Matthew James (SPEARHEAD!)
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To: Calpernia
Why is it that Teddy the K is not making little ones out of big ones at Club Fed? Or, as would be entirely appropriate a punishment for treason, met Saddam's recent fate about 25 years ago?

Oh, yea, his last name is Kennedy, and his brother was President of Camelot.

About the only thing Teddy has in common with John, other than his name and ancestry, is that both are serial philanders.

103 posted on 12/31/2006 2:30:03 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mkjessup
Waterboard that fat bastard until he tells all.

All what? He's long since poisoned all the brain cells that stored anything of intelligence value.

104 posted on 12/31/2006 2:33:42 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Popman
He would probably request the water be mixed with "Dewars"

He'd get "Old RotGut" and learn to be happy with it. After the first few drinks, the "Good Stuff" is just for show anyway.

105 posted on 12/31/2006 2:47:22 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bump for later


106 posted on 12/31/2006 2:47:56 PM PST by Christian4Bush ("A gov't big enough to give you all is big enough to take it all from you." Gerald Ford 1913-2006)
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To: cricket
Bob Woodward?

All these years; and still. . .no story.

He's too busy selectively quoting dead people who can't correct the record. Or just plain making stuff up.

107 posted on 12/31/2006 3:43:30 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mo
seems enough evidence for "high crimes against the state" ...IMHO

against the state my a$$. It's enough of evidence of treason against The United Statesto start building the heavy duty gallows or ordering the chemicals from the veterinary supply wholesaler.

108 posted on 12/31/2006 3:51:12 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I wonder who Ted's backing for 2008?

The Democrat candidate who will be most likely to bring about the surrender of America to Muslim terrorists, and who will ensure the fastest destruction of the nation by doing so.

109 posted on 12/31/2006 4:10:13 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Lurker
"Treasonous bas****."


Name me one Liberal socialist Dem who isn't?? Yeah there are a few Dems who probably aren't, but they are few and very far between!
110 posted on 12/31/2006 5:27:01 PM PST by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: Calpernia; Cincinatus' Wife
Also see:

Kennedy’s Comrade: Hunting a KGB Mole in the Democratic Party

111 posted on 12/31/2006 6:04:45 PM PST by Fedora
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To: RetiredArmy

Tempting, it is, for Fat Ted to be "Wallaced" by a reincarnation of Longshank's head executioner. Unfortunately, that would entail the whale to be near naked and that would most likely traumatize the poor bloke who'd have to see the gelatinous blob upon the rack.


112 posted on 12/31/2006 6:14:15 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There is only one word that applies to this kind of method and that is traitor. Sorry to say we have far to many of them in Washington. Its not their ideas but rather their methods. Kennedy could have easily made a statement in the press which would have been picked up by the Soviets. Yet behind the backs of the American public he conducted foreign policy counter to our stated interest for his own political gain. We are in a world of trouble with few friends internally and externally. We need some help we need another Reagan fast.


113 posted on 12/31/2006 6:14:31 PM PST by jimnesfield (Behind the curve)
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To: El Gato

bump


114 posted on 12/31/2006 8:33:57 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Bob

The lecherous creep should not even be involved in politics. I really wonder at times, what is going through the minds of the folks in Mass. that they keep re-electing him.

RIP, Mary Jo.


115 posted on 12/31/2006 8:57:15 PM PST by LisaMalia (God Bless President Bush and our Troops....and GO BUCKEYES!....)
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To: El Gato
He's too busy selectively quoting dead people who can't correct the record. Or just plain making stuff up.

. ..Precisely. . .and exactly. . .

. . .typical lib. . .looking into the mirror, looking for reassurance as to whom, is the 'fairest, of them all'.. .in a manner of speaking; but one that surely defines the MO of Bob Woodward; and the rest of the Lib et als. . . .

116 posted on 12/31/2006 10:24:59 PM PST by cricket (Save a Terrorist - join the Democrats/Live Liberal Free; or suffer their consequences)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
However, according to Kennedy, the opposition to Reagan is still very weak

Kennedy a weak man, too. Probably cried like a baby when the Berlin wall fell.

117 posted on 12/31/2006 11:08:46 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: Cheburashka
.....Without some outside evidence it's just the author's word against that of Senator Kennedy. And I doubt Kennedy will dignify this with a response....

Kennedy would be suing his pants off. This just wasn't pull out of a writer's mind. It was found in the KGB files by a British reporter.

118 posted on 01/01/2007 1:03:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Fedora

Thank you Fedora. That is an amazing amount of research.

Bump!


119 posted on 01/01/2007 1:06:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Savage Beast

If you take the long view, think back to how people felt during T. Roosevelt's reign of the Trustbusters, then W. Wilson and his League of Nations, and then FDR with his Commie advisors, Social Security and Uncle Joe. Teddy is the least powerful of that lot.


120 posted on 01/01/2007 1:48:15 AM PST by The Westerner
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To: The Westerner

And the least intelligent. And the least influential. And the least qualified to lead.


121 posted on 01/01/2007 2:04:42 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.")
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To: Savage Beast

But a most useful idiot, nonetheless. Think of how far the tentacles of the Kennedy family reach, even as far as the governor of California who has aspirations of being President.


122 posted on 01/01/2007 3:10:05 AM PST by The Westerner
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Senator Kennedy is a public figure, which makes suing problematical.

I repeat, is there a copy of the letter in Russian?


123 posted on 01/01/2007 3:32:21 AM PST by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Fedora
Senators McGovern and Hatfield belonged to an IPS-linked lobby called Members of Congress for Peace Through Law (MCPL) which supported the antiwar protestors during Dewey Canyon III and the subsequent NPAC and PCPJ demonstrations. During the April 24 March Against the War, the VVAW was addressed by MCPL Senators McGovern, Ted Kennedy, Walter Mondale, and Philip Hart, along with two MCPL Congressmen. Meanwhile eight MCPL Congressmen addressed a PCPJ group.195
Political support also came from other antiwar Congressmen and Senators.196 Most notably, Senator Hart and Senator Claiborne Pell, a critic of US policy towards Cuba as well as Vietnam,197 hosted a VVAW fundraiser which was attended by Senator J. William Fulbright. Fulbright, who sat with Pell on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and shared Pell’s views on Cuba and Vietnam, had led Senate opposition to the Vietnam War since 1966,198 and during the fundraiser he invited Kerry to speak to his committee about war crimes.
Other members of Fulbright’s committee who listened to Kerry sympathetically during his testimony were Stuart Symington, who had been Dean Acheson’s favored choice for Democratic Presidential candidate in 1960,199 and Frank Church, who would soon lead a Congressional attack on the US intelligence community which was supported by the VVAW, the National Lawyers Guild, the Institute for Policy Studies, and Cuban and Soviet agents.200 ...197On Pell, see “Pell, Claiborne”, Current Biography, Bronx, New York: The H. W. Wilson Company, 1972; “Pell, Claiborne de Borda, 1918-“, Biographical Directory of the United States Congress, http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=P000193 (September 24, 2004); Claiborne Pell, Power and Policy: America’s Role in World Affairs, New York: Norton, 1972; Powell, 252, 389.--------------see Hanoi John: Kerry and the Antiwar Movement’s Communist Connections via 32 posted on 05/01/2006 3:51:16 PM PDT by Fedora | To 29
124 posted on 01/01/2007 3:58:45 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Cheburashka

Imagine the size of the weight belt you'd need to sink two 55 gallon drums of lard.


125 posted on 01/01/2007 4:06:23 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Cheburashka
Senator Kennedy is a public figure, which makes suing problematical.

John Kerry doesn't seem to have a problem suing. Ask the Swift Boat group.

I repeat, is there a copy of the letter in Russian?

From the book source, "The Crusader - Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism," which is listed at the beginning of this thread:

The author, Paul Kengor, describes the Kennedy/Tunney/Soviet matter in Chapter 17, where he writes about the 1984 presidential campaign. I don't plan to type that entire chapter (go buy the book) but I did type up the "Notes" on the KGB letter referenced in chapter 17 and will add them below. If you want more information about what language the letter was in, I believe I've given you enough information to pursue that on you own.

Quote: Notes (full text) page 369

25. To the best of my knowledge, this book is the first full examination and presentation of the Chebrikov document. The document came from the Central Committee Archives of the Communist Party of the former USSR. There are a number of different archives from the Soviet period, including, for example, the KGB Archives, the Comintern Archives, among others. The archives were opened in the early 1990s by the Boris Yeltsin government, whereupon scholars and journalists eagerly began digging into the documents. The Yeltsin government, for various reasons, closed many of the archives, including the Central Committee Archives, in the 1994-95 period.

The document that I cite here was apparently initially found by a London Times reporter in early 1992. The London Sunday Times subsequently published an article on the document, titled “Teddy, the KGB and the top secret file,” in the February 2, 1992 edition. The Times article, however, was brief and included only a few quotes from the document; the newspaper published only a photo of a small section from the upper left corner of page one of the five page document. Once the Times piece ran, a number of people scrambled to the archives to obtain their own copy of the document, which then began circulating in and around Moscow. Various individuals obtained copies. Shortly thereafter, the Russian government closed the file.

Among those who obtained a full copy was Herb Romerstein, author of the seminal work on the Venona papers, The Verona Secrets. Romerstein is a former staff member of the U.S. House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and a seasoned veteran of archival research from the Cold War period. Romerstein continues to do research from intelligence archives of former Communist countries. My copy was obtained through Marko Suprun, who got the copy from Herb Romerstein and Walter Zaryckyj. Romerstein provided details to me on the document’s origin in a number of discussions in June 2005. Unquote.

126 posted on 01/01/2007 4:21:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

has sub commander kennedy ever responded to the release of this information?


127 posted on 01/01/2007 4:26:29 AM PST by Gothmog
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To: Gothmog

I don't know if Kennedy has responded.

Here's a quote from a Washington Times editorial:

....If Chebrikov's account of events is accurate, it's clear Mr. Kennedy was actively engaging the Russians to influence the 1984 election. He also seems to have genuinely believed that Mr. Reagan's policies were endangering U.S.-Soviet relations and that the best solution was to get Mr. Reagan out of office. The letter closes with Chebrikov saying that "Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988," possibly suggesting Mr. Kennedy had other, more selfish motives.

As Mr. Kengor concludes, "if the memo is in fact an accurate account of what transpired, it constitutes a remarkable example of the lengths to which some on the political left, including a sitting U.S. senator, were willing to go to stop Ronald Reagan."

We agree. Even in a jaded world, it is breathtaking to discover a U.S. senator -- brother of a former president -- actively and secretly collaborating with Soviet leaders in an attempt to undermine the president of the United States' nuclear defense policy during the height of the cold war. ....

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20061027-084248-4386r.htm


128 posted on 01/01/2007 5:00:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I'm wondering what response I might get from a letter to his office. BTW, thanks for posting the original article and this response.


129 posted on 01/01/2007 5:33:58 AM PST by Gothmog
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To: Gothmog

If you get a response, please post it as a stand alone thread and link this thread to it.

Good luck.


130 posted on 01/01/2007 5:35:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: The Westerner
Yes, quite right.

Once in Massachusetts (I forgot where I was) I made a remark about Teddy Kennedy that was not really critical but merely slightly offhanded. You would have thought I had insulted the Prophet Mohammed in one of the Muslim theocracies.

131 posted on 01/01/2007 6:49:39 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.")
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To: Savage Beast

I've noticed that people from MA make jokes about their elected officials and big government messes but don't like "outsiders" to assume the role of critic.


132 posted on 01/01/2007 7:19:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Kennedy was wrong then and is wrong now.


133 posted on 01/01/2007 9:03:17 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: All; piasa; Landru; Alamo-Girl

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Thank you for your CLARITY, plasa.

Your outstanding historical Post No. 124 would be a great addition with us over on:

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

So, Come on Down..?

I will NEVER FORGET my happily striding into the Travis Air Force Base Terminal in April 1966 when returning home from the 1st Major Battles for Freedom of the Vietnam War.

Only to see on a lobby TV the 1st FULLBRIGHT Foreign Relations Committee Vietnam War Hearings ...grilling away at Sec. of State DEAN RUSK and Sec. of Defense ROBERT McNAMARA about the Vietnam War.

A FULLBRIGHT Committee that later on had as one of its Staffers one...

...WILLIAM Jefferson CLINTON.

As Sen. FRANK CHURCH's Intelligence Committee went on to completely devastate our Nation's Intelligence capibilities ...after the post-WATERGATE Democrat Congressional Election Victory of 1974.

Something we are all paying very dearly for now..?

For...
...the Enemy is now Within...
...and always has been.


NEVER FORGET

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134 posted on 01/01/2007 9:28:21 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What a piece of scum!


135 posted on 01/01/2007 11:39:09 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; CurtisLeMay; theothercheek; kiriath_jearim; Gadfly-At-Large; pryncessraych; ...

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136 posted on 01/01/2007 11:45:52 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: piasa
Imagine the size of the weight belt you'd need to sink two 55 gallon drums of lard.
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I'd like to see Teddy walk in it before we toss him in the drinkwater.
137 posted on 01/01/2007 12:04:15 PM PST by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why isn't this treasonous lump of lard being charged with treason and whose job is it to charge him, and why are'nt they? This cannot be allowed to stand.


138 posted on 01/01/2007 1:09:21 PM PST by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
John Kerry doesn't seem to have a problem suing. Ask the Swift Boat group.
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JF'n is a kept man, and he is suing with someone else's money.

Senator Kennedy presumably would be more judicious in the spending of his own family's fortune.

The answer as to the Russian copy of the Letter is: maybe. It hasn't been published anywhere.

I reviewed the information linked in post #111 above. Interesting, but hardly proof of anything. A lot of allegations. Which is why Teddy hasn't sued about THEM either. Suing would just give the makers of the allegations publicity. You can't prove a negative, that Teddy DIDN'T have questionable contacts the the Soviets. In fact as an important leader in American politics for about 40 years you would expect him to have some contacts with every major or minor foreign power at one time or another. The issue would be the appropriateness of these contacts.

Nothing here proves he was illegitimately coordinating with the Soviets. He may have been, but I'm talking about proof.

The letter we are talking about might be nothing more than a report of a drunken conversation Mr. Tunney had with a female Russian while conducting a corporate client's business in Moscow. Unfortunately for Mr. Tunney he was stupid enough not to realize that such a woman was almost certainly a Soviet government agent and he tried to impress her that he was a personal friend of Teddy. Perhaps he wanted to try out his horizontal Russian? Oh, no, that has never happened in the history of humanity.

And it might be something more. But there's no proof.

A story to watch. Perhaps proof will come out some time in the future.
139 posted on 01/01/2007 1:40:07 PM PST by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Traitor Ted is a dangerous man.

Was he in cahoots with the KGB before, during, or after the assassination attempt on Reagan?


140 posted on 01/01/2007 5:08:34 PM PST by Palladin (Happy New Year to the troops, and God bless every one of them!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Do you think if we went ahead and had a big State Funeral for Teddy he would take the hint?


141 posted on 01/01/2007 5:25:53 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bump for Ted. . .


142 posted on 01/03/2007 8:42:11 AM PST by cricket (Save a Terrorist - join the Democrats/Live Liberal Free; or suffer their consequences)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thank you!


143 posted on 08/26/2009 2:38:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

btt


144 posted on 08/27/2009 3:58:40 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I wonder who Ted's backing for 2008?

Greetings from the future. My crystal ball tells me it will be little-known Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

Tell your friends back in 2006 to start preparing now. Ask Obama to show you his birth certificate and college grades, because once he's elected it will be too late.

BTW, if you've got any GM or Chrysler or AIG or Wachovia stock, 2006 would be a good time to sell.

145 posted on 08/27/2009 4:10:20 PM PDT by x
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146 posted on 08/28/2009 4:49:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Gee, I wonder if they made Teddy a Hero of the Soviet Union?


147 posted on 08/28/2009 5:04:03 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Martha's Vineyard is great! Hey, honey, let's take a drive . . . .)
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My apologies for this very unusual ping, which relates to current events.

No apology necessary! Thanks for the ping.

148 posted on 08/28/2009 5:09:24 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BTTT


149 posted on 08/28/2009 5:13:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: fanfan

:’)


150 posted on 08/28/2009 5:30:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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