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Jim Webb And The New Math
Redstate.com ^ | 18 December, 2006 | By .cnI redruM

Posted on 12/18/2006 7:26:22 AM PST by .cnI redruM

Democratic Senator Jim Webb embarrassed the state of Virginia by offering his support to the economic views of the Left Keynesians, in The Wall Street Journal, last November 15. He served these views up in didactic screed, worthy of The Unibomber Manifesto, which he entitled Class Struggle. The normative aspects smacked of a marginal college sophomore who was reading too much Enver Hoxha. It now turns out the factual basis of Webb's polemics is well; not so factual.

In his guest editorial, Jim Webb argues that the top 1% of America's wage earners take home 16% of the national income. This, he claims is double what they received in 1980. Personally, I could care less, as long as my status as a non-member of the top 1% doesn't imply too great a level of personal deprivation on my part. That particular argument is a non-sequitor to me, but unfortunately other people's souls are withered enough with envy to really get upset over how rich liberals like George Soros and Stephen Bing are making out these days.

Thus it is only fitting and condign that Alan Reynolds took to the very same rostrum from which Webb extolled the ideology of Marx to debunk not only the normative content of Webb's disportive polemic; but also it's basis in fact. Reynolds' piece, The Top 1%....of What? debunks Webb's knowledge of economic reality as well as his ideological interpretation of it's meaning.

Reynolds starts his Fisking with a review of The Senator-Elect's data source for his risible 16.1% income share claim.

"The architects of these estimates, Thomas Piketty of École Normale Supérieure in Paris and Emmanuel Saez of the University of California at Berkeley, did not refer to shares of total income but to shares of income reported on individual income tax returns ..... they explicitly exclude Social Security and other transfer payments, which make up a large and growing share of total income: 14.7% of personal income in 2004, up from 9.3% in 1980....personal income in 2004 was $3.3 trillion, or 34.4%, larger than the amount included in the denominator of the Piketty-Saez ratio of top incomes to total incomes."

Reynolds goes far beyond the criticisms of the data Webb relies that I've chosen to highlight. Piketty and Saez play are revealed to have played as many games in interpreting IRS tax returns as some of us play in filling them out. If John Allan Paulos felt like writing a follow up to A Mathematician Reads The Newspaper, he could start debunking the statistical techniques used to message the data for Piketty and Saez.

Reynolds then expands on the studied use of dates by Senator Webb to make his flawed comparison of the wealth distribution in America, then versus now. Reynolds explains how the Tax Reform Act of 1986 encouraged Dastardly Dan, and the rest of those malafactors in the top 1%, to expose a much larger share of their holdings to the IRS for confiscation.

The Tax Reform Act of 1986 created higher tax revenues in three manners. It lowered the actual rate of taxation on extremely high earners. This caused them to no longer benefit from tax shelters of marginal value. Hence, they stopped playing games, once they gained very little from the effort and cost of legally laundering the money through complicated investment structures.

Secondly, this law also caused capital gains to face the same tax rates as regular income. This led to people investing money into the equities market that was previously held in the aforementioned marginal tax shelters.

Finally, the Tax Reform Act of 1986, kicked the props out from under several tax shelter schemes involving speculative real estate investing. This kicked still more money into the category of earned income, thereby making the amount of money the rich raked in far more apparent in 1987 than it was back in 1985.

So Senator Webb stirs the fires of class envy by citing data that is factually wrong, for reasons that are morally reprehensible. People don't walk around hating eachother enough without some demagouge like Jim Webb telling them how unfair the world is. He's right in saying the world is unfair, he is morally bankrupt in claiming that America is unjust. If he intends to complain about the current state of America's economy, he should at least get his facts straight, even if his values appear to be hopelessly warped.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: classenvy; demagouge; jimwebb; marxist
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Jim Webb; the new embarassment to The Old Dominion.
1 posted on 12/18/2006 7:26:24 AM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM
Yeah, it is really, really UNFAIR that George Soros earned most of his money through insider trading and currency speculation whereas I've had to work hard for everything I've earned. Mr. Webb, would you please pass a big tax on Mr. Soros so I and milliions of Americans like me could get a tax credit of say, $5000?
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Considering that Soros owns you, I thought not.
2 posted on 12/18/2006 7:33:46 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: .cnI redruM

Jim Webb: Born Idiot.

}:-)4


3 posted on 12/18/2006 7:35:01 AM PST by Moose4 (Go hard or go home, but don't go half-ass.)
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To: .cnI redruM
A related link...

The top one-hundredth of one percent

4 posted on 12/18/2006 7:37:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Moose4

He's taking the Mark Dayton dunce cap seat in the senate.


5 posted on 12/18/2006 7:37:39 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Any new taxation that spews forth from DC as a result of Mr. Webb's faux-populism and anti-Walmart smarm, will only effect the earned income of people who don't own 527 corporations. Jim Webb is out to discourage hard work and empower those who sit of the corner with a 40oz bottle and gripe about economic fairness while their neighbors work two jobs.
6 posted on 12/18/2006 7:38:55 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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Democratic Senator Jim Webb embarrassed the state of Virginia

Enough said.

7 posted on 12/18/2006 7:41:04 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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"What makes the "astonishing" estimates so different from the CBO's is that Piketty and Saez toss in the estate tax and gift tax. That might make sense if all taxpayers in the top 0.01 percent died each year and left their businesses and lifetime savings to heirs with incomes as high as their own. In any case, the estate tax is absolutely irrelevant to The Washington Post's effort to promote much higher income tax rates."

I'm not sure what snarky comment would further elucidate the dishonesty behind Jim Webb's set of pet numbers.
8 posted on 12/18/2006 7:42:02 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I guess brevity is the soul of wit. I'll credit myself with putting the bottom line upfront.


9 posted on 12/18/2006 7:42:45 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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So Senator Webb stirs the fires of class envy by citing data that is factually wrong, for reasons that are morally reprehensible.

I'd say that sums it up pretty nicely :)

10 posted on 12/18/2006 7:44:30 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Why thank you:)


11 posted on 12/18/2006 7:46:56 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: mtbopfuyn; .cnI redruM

The State of Virginia embarrassed themselves.


12 posted on 12/18/2006 7:49:36 AM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: .cnI redruM

The more I hear about our new Senator, the more I want to run every Webb sticker car off the road.


13 posted on 12/18/2006 7:50:06 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain nomination assures a Hillary win)
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14 posted on 12/18/2006 7:52:57 AM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I thought that belonged to Patty Murray.


15 posted on 12/18/2006 7:53:20 AM PST by carola
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But, hey. The guy never walks around saying "Macacca"
16 posted on 12/18/2006 7:54:03 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: carola

Jim Webb will punch her out and take it, after he finishes his "Texas Death Match" with President Bush.


17 posted on 12/18/2006 7:55:03 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: .cnI redruM
Jim Webb is out to discourage hard work and empower those who sit of the corner with a 40oz bottle and gripe about economic fairness while their neighbors work two jobs.

In other words, empower the constituents of George Soros. How long do you think the rest of us will continue to work two jobs (or more) once we see that we can get further ahead by joining the parasites?

18 posted on 12/18/2006 8:08:51 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: .cnI redruM

This guy is an idiot: He won't last past 1 Term, and then all the Northern Virginia Idiots (and College Students) that elected him will be looking like fools for supporting such a looserL

Let's Count Webb's mistakes:

1) He a Pervert that advocates sexual molestation of Children (at least in 'fiction'); He stands at odds with the values of the majority of Virinians.

2) He supports "new math"

3) He is a flaming socialist..

I am sure that there are more, but I know there are some of you freepers who currently reside in Virginia that could tell better than I.


19 posted on 12/18/2006 8:15:52 AM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com)
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To: Vigilanteman
When you join the parasites, you further empower Jim Webb (and his hateful ilk). The people who hold the money, hold the power. This is why the Webbies are very worried about how much the top 1% makes.
20 posted on 12/18/2006 8:23:48 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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