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Negotiate with Iran? (Iran-Al Qaeda link)
National Review ^ | Dec. 8, 2006 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 12/09/2006 1:29:15 PM PST by FairOpinion

The Iraq Study Group’s call for negotiations with Iran and Syria as “a way forward” has been widely derided. It is, abjectly, a return to September 10th thinking — to the days when terror masters like Yasser Arafat were feted as statesmen at White House galas, when terror organizations like al Qaeda operated with impunity from well-known safe havens, and when our government’s idea of countering atrocities was the filing of indictments against a handful of savages.

IRAN, HEZBOLLAH & AL QAEDA

Mohamed was ultimately charged with participation in al Qaeda’s war against the United States. When he pled guilty in 2000, among the startling revelations he made was the following:

I was aware of certain contacts between al Qaeda and al Jihad organization, on one side, and Iran and Hezbollah on the other side. I arranged security for a meeting in the Sudan between [Imad Mugniyah], Hezbollah’s chief, and Bin Laden. Hezbollah provided explosives training for al Qaeda and al Jihad. Iran supplied Egyptian Jihad with weapons. Iran also used Hezbollah to supply explosives that were disguised to look like rocks.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; iraqstudygroup; iraqsurrendergroup; islam; wot
This is an EXCELLENT factual, detailed article. Andrew C. McCarthy provides detailed information of hos the Iran-terrorism link evolved and I highly recommend reading and bookmarking this article.

If he could do the necessary research, why couldn't the Iran Surrender Group do it, why are they ignoring Iran's link to terrorism and urging that we "negotiate" (read SURRENDER) to the terrorists?

The IRS is urging not only our withdrawal from Iraq, but that we basically surrender to the terrorists and give up the War on Terror.

1 posted on 12/09/2006 1:29:17 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

"DEATH TO AMERICA
In a startling October 2005 speech at Iran’s annual “World Without Zionism” conference, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told his audience, “We are in the process of an historical war between the World of Arrogance and the Islamic world, and this war has been going on for hundreds of years.”


Did the IRS know this, and they think we can "negotiate"?!


2 posted on 12/09/2006 1:31:05 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

ISG, not IRS -- but the rest is entirely correct.


3 posted on 12/09/2006 1:33:34 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
In hindsight, disclosure of an Iran/Hezbollah/Qaeda partnership should have come as no surprise. In the aforementioned spring 1998 indictment, the Justice Department alleged that bin Laden had “stated privately … that Al Qaeda should put aside its differences with Shiite Muslim terrorist organizations, including the Government of Iran and its affiliated terrorist group Hezballah, to cooperate against the perceived common enemy, the United States and its allies.” Thus, the indictment explained: “Al Qaeda also forged alliances … with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.”

Fascinating.

4 posted on 12/09/2006 1:47:54 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

This shouldn't come as a great surprise either:



Iran Reacts Favorably to the Baker-Hamilton Plan

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1568431,00.html

The Iraq Surrender Group legitimized "surrender to the terrorists" as an acceptable option.

ANY SANE American should reject it.


5 posted on 12/09/2006 1:51:46 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Cindy

An excellent article going through the history of Iran links to terrorism and Al Qaeda, to the present.


6 posted on 12/09/2006 1:53:04 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Iran Reacts Favorably to the Baker-Hamilton Plan

That pretty much says it all about the ISG.

7 posted on 12/09/2006 2:04:06 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood
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To: FairOpinion
This bit at the end of the article grabbed me.....

" But, the “realist” (James Baker) doyen puttered, if we invite them (Iran)to negotiate about Iraq’s future, and they demur, why, we’ll expose their intransigence for all the world to see".

Holy Pete James, what have attempts to negotiate with Tehran gotten the free world, including the EU and the UN, so far - zip, zip and doda.

What the heck is left to "expose"?

8 posted on 12/09/2006 2:05:31 PM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Themselves.)
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To: FairOpinion
Damn
Double Damn
You mean we could have negotiated with Charles Manson et el instead of arresting them and slipping lectricty up the majority of them?
Man we have wasted so much.
Why John Dillinger was shot for nothing.
9 posted on 12/09/2006 2:07:20 PM PST by DeaconRed (We have a war going on within America and we must put a stop to the liberal idiots! !)
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To: FairOpinion
...If he could do the necessary research, why couldn't the Iran Surrender Group do it, why are they ignoring Iran's link to terrorism...

He who has eyes to see, let him see..... The fools are blind, that's why!
10 posted on 12/09/2006 2:17:38 PM PST by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: FairOpinion

We use their mentality against them. "Mr. Iranian President, accept our envoy carrying this brief case so we can provide you an up to date schedule of our departure from Iraq/Afghanistan.

Hand over the briefcase, our lackey stares stupidly at his fearless leader, and they explode into a plasma ball consuming everything in it's path for about 20 klicks, making Tehran a hell hole for about fifty years.

Too bad, so sad, whah.

SS


11 posted on 12/09/2006 2:21:42 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: FairOpinion

Thanks FairOpinion.

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On The Net...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=iran
http://www.truthusa.com/IRAN.html


12 posted on 12/09/2006 2:30:13 PM PST by Cindy
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To: FairOpinion

Baker --Meese--Eagleberger

All former high ranking members of GOP administrations

They really protected Bush well didn't they ?


13 posted on 12/09/2006 3:28:49 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: uncbob
The Iraqi people will suffer most.

They have tasted freedom and they will now lose freedom.

Liberal Americans belittled Bush Sr. for not "finishing the job" in 1991, and removing Saddam. Now the same crowd will throw the people of Iraq to the wolves of Al Qaeda, just to give Bush Jr. a permanent black eye for the history books.

The same crowd that bemoans the fact that we do not intercede in every other war.

Why? Bitter revenge for revealing the truth about Clinton.

The old truth about revenge? You better dig two graves.

Al Qaida will fill them both.
14 posted on 12/09/2006 4:03:43 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER
Why? Bitter revenge for revealing the truth about Clinton.

Oh how I wish that was true

Revenge for the Impeachment BUT not for revealing the truth

Read David Schippers book "Sell Out"
15 posted on 12/09/2006 4:36:46 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: FairOpinion
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish then to live as slaves." ~Winston Churchill in a speech before the British Parliament in 1939
16 posted on 12/09/2006 6:33:16 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Eagles6

You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish then to live as slaves." ~Winston Churchill


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Something to rememeber...


17 posted on 12/09/2006 6:44:48 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: All


http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110009362


Even the ISG admits that "our limited contacts with Iran's government lead us to believe that its leaders are likely to say they will not participate in diplomatic efforts to support stability in Iraq." So how can we possibly persuade the Iranians to help?

Never fear, there is an answer. Agence France-Presse reports:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has warned Western leaders to follow the path of God or "vanish from the face of the earth.

These oppressive countries are angry with us . . . a nation that on the other side of the globe has risen up and proved the shallowness of their power," Ahmadinejad said in a speech in the northern town of Ramsar, the semi-official news agency Mehr reported Wednesday.

"They are angry with our nation. But we tell them 'so be it and die from this anger.' Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth," he said.

Get right with God and the mullahs will be eating out of our hands. Yes, it's that simple! Here's hoping that in the first 100 hours of the new Congress, Speaker Pelosi introduces the Response to the Divine Call Act of 2007.


18 posted on 12/09/2006 6:49:26 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish then to live as slaves." ~Winston Churchill

There have always been many amongst us who would live as slaves rather than fight.

It is the fighting spirit of the few who give us our freedom.

19 posted on 12/09/2006 7:13:37 PM PST by oldbrowser (This war isn't over until it's OVER.)
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To: FairOpinion

bfl


20 posted on 12/17/2006 12:09:52 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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