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Grapes of wrath for French vineyards as millions of bottles are destroyed
The Scotsman ^ | November 28, 2006 | JENNY BARCHFIELD

Posted on 11/27/2006 11:34:11 PM PST by MadIvan

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To: MadIvan

I was in France last year at this time when the Beaujolais wine was marketed. The bottle we had at lunch wasn't very good wine! The French people I was eating with conceded that Beaujolais is more of a marketing strategy than a good wine.

For those not familiar with it, Beaujolais is released on one day in late November every year. It is done with great fan fair. There are posters all over the cities and restaurants announcing the vintage. The producers seal containers and ship to other countries with everyone getting their first taste on the same day. That is supposed to be the "hook".


41 posted on 11/28/2006 12:18:46 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: MadIvan; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; SandyInSeattle; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
The Official French Wine Webpage?


42 posted on 11/28/2006 12:18:50 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Sunni or later Shi'ite happens." --spokeshave)
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Ya, we got MD 20/20 and cabbage rolls
43 posted on 11/28/2006 12:25:01 AM PST by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: MadIvan

Ivan, this should make the circuit on talk radio.
A very important commentary about the wonders
of free enterprise.
Only a generation ago the thought of competing with
french wines was unthinkable.


44 posted on 11/28/2006 12:28:43 AM PST by ChiMark
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To: MadIvan
"But we're beginning to see it's here to stay."

That right, Gilles. And your new islamic masters will be tearing down the rest of your vineyards in due time.

This is just too funny. A nation of winos undergoing delirium tremens en masse.

45 posted on 11/28/2006 12:32:36 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: MadIvan

Ivan,
I think it is a real shame that the regular people are being hurt by this. These people are not anti-American like their government is. I have been to France a number of times (especially in the south) and the regular people don't have this hatred for America like the government. Just my two cents.
Bob


46 posted on 11/28/2006 12:37:53 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: MadIvan

Yes. There are no French wines on any of the shelves in North Carolina that I've seen. I drink the Aussie stuff myself, but always check for Frog wine just out of curiosity.


47 posted on 11/28/2006 12:40:45 AM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: MadIvan

Actually, it would be nice if Georgian wines replaced French for US consumption. Instead of supporting a bunch of 'winers', we'd be supporting brave people facing the Bear.


48 posted on 11/28/2006 12:45:54 AM PST by tanuki
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To: hatfieldmccoy
France is pretending to be an ally. Instead they are actually all lie. How much technical help and weapons have they given to the terrorists? As they betray the west, they have lost my trust. And they pave their own disaster.

I hesitate to even by french bread.
49 posted on 11/28/2006 12:50:15 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: sully777
Ya, we got MD 20/20 and cabbage rolls

Somehow I have the feeling that that combination will be buying a round-trip ticket.

50 posted on 11/28/2006 12:52:53 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Sunni or later Shi'ite happens." --spokeshave)
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To: piasa
I like this comment from the article:

"Louis-Fabrice Latour, who heads the Louis Latour label in Burgundy, admitted a feeling of superiority had made them slow to react. "In France, we used to think we were the biggest and best and no-one could touch us," he said."

Pompous, smug, arrogant jerks. They can't sell a car in the USA either.

As for their women... After 6 months in Belgium:


51 posted on 11/28/2006 12:53:49 AM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: MadIvan
I can't stand Boujoulais anyway. No bofy and no flavor.

Give me a California Zinfindel or Australian Sharraz any day.

52 posted on 11/28/2006 1:15:06 AM PST by Maigrey (On weekend Prayer Vigil for the Texas Termite. The task is not over, by far.)
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To: MadIvan
I can't stand Boujoulais anyway. No body and no flavor.

Give me a California Zinfindel or Australian Sharraz any day.

53 posted on 11/28/2006 1:15:14 AM PST by Maigrey (On weekend Prayer Vigil for the Texas Termite. The task is not over, by far.)
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54 posted on 11/28/2006 1:18:17 AM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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To: MadIvan
I wonder if the American boycott has something to do with this as well?

Maybe. But I get the feeling I have read this before. Didn't they do this last year as well?

55 posted on 11/28/2006 2:14:46 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Those who call their fellow citizens Sheeple are just ticked they were not chosen as Shepherds)
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To: MadIvan
I have to suspect that this problem goes beyond the boycott and approaches a problem at a cultural/societal level. Isn't 20% of their population some sort of muslim, and aren't they prohibited from drinking wine? Also, the French youth are probably not into wine as much as the older generation, so that will hurt them as time passes. Then we hit factors like the boycott, the higher value of the Euro impacting prices overseas and the competition.

Either way, the Vischey dream of retiring to the idyllic lifestyle of running a vineyard has been chucked out the window. Too bad, Jacques.

"In France, we used to think we were the biggest and best and no-one could touch us," he said.

Uh-yup. We noticed. Now no one wants to touch your sorry @ss vischy crap.

As far as market demand in China? Who's to say the Chinese won't chemically deconstruct the first few bottles of expensive french wine and come out with a kool-aid based knock off that tastes better and costs one tenth of French spew inside the first week? If there's a Chinese market to be exploited, bet on the Chinese to be the ones to exploit it. Don't the French ever learn? Nah...

56 posted on 11/28/2006 2:16:52 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: jonrick46
Yes, I don't trust french bread either.
I've also cut back on french fries.
I'm still boycotting Heinz products indefinitely,and I try to avoid buying crap from S.C. Johnson because S. "Curt" Johnson the third is a spoiled A-hole and as you know it is "a family company". I also don't let my wife get Ben & Jerry's when Blue Bunny is better and costs less. I try to stay away from Nestle also since they tell third world mothers that their formula is better than breast milk. In general I buy American when I can and try to avoid buying stuff built by communist slaves in places like China. In addition my company manufactures right here in the U.S. of A. Apparently I didn't get the memo explaining why it's always better to build in any other country of the world than our own. I secretly love it when my competition is always moaning about how their parts from China were defective, late, or that their supplier stole their design and is now selling a similar product retail at below their contracted purchase price. It is what they reap for paying commies to learn how to make their products while laying off their own American workers. Now if we could just export our lawyers to China we'd leave them in our dust.
57 posted on 11/28/2006 2:22:50 AM PST by ME-262 (The Democrat party is slowly being reduced by abortion AIDS and imprisonment...and soon deportation!)
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To: MadIvan

Ivan, I know I drink a glass or two of wine nearly every day and I haven't had a glass of french wine in a long damn time. Don't intend to either. Hope this is adding to the french winemakers woes.
Just trying to do my little part.
Calif wines are just fine thank you.


58 posted on 11/28/2006 2:26:11 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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This is a function of three things:

1. Increased Muslim population. I wouldn't be surprised if pork products also have decreased. It's not just that Muslims won't drink it, but that even French people have to be sensitive to not offend Muslims so won't offer it on the menu at some events.
2. Demographics. France is rapidly aging. Older people tend to go for quality over quantity. The same is happening in German beer consumption.
3. Anglosphere competition. I think that Britain was always Frances biggest export market for wine (and the US too). But did you notice that most of the competitors are part of the Anglosphere: the US, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. Given the choice, Anglosphere members will choose the wines from their compatriots, especially since the tariffs are usually lower.
4. France has been horrible at marketing its product and at anticipating the trends of the market. They are of the "if you ferment it, they will come" school. Obviously, this has failed.
France can't compete at the low end of the market and can't seem to increase its share of the high end. Paradoxically, the slow food/local food movement championed by the French has had the effect of reducing imports to the US. After all, it burns an awful lot of hydrocarbons just to ship some wine bottles across the Atlantic.


59 posted on 11/28/2006 2:42:13 AM PST by zpaladin
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To: MadIvan
At our house, we drink that sweet German dessert wine:


60 posted on 11/28/2006 2:50:36 AM PST by Watery Tart (“Are you smoking rope?. . . . Man, that's -- wow.” --Tony Snow)
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