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Fear: Why the Media Won't Tell You What Ahmadinejad Said (more on Apocalyptic Iran)
NewsBusters ^ | 9-20-2006 | Bob Owens

Posted on 09/20/2006 3:25:44 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon

A striking bit of journalistic malpractice seems to have affected the mainstream media web sites this morning, as news site after news site failed to provide their readers with the transcript of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speech last night to the United Nations.

As of noon at ABC News, it is as if Ahmadinejad never spoke, as their was no reference to his address in front of the United Nations on their Web site’s front page, and is notably absent from the headlines of their political section as well. I had to search Google News to find this report on their site, which did not link to the transcript, nor provide Ahmadinejad's closing remarks.

Likewise, Ahmadinejad’s speech was not easily found on the CBS News site, and when an article was found buried below the fold of their International news section, their story, as well, did not provide a transcript nor a summation of his closing remarks.

The New York Times had Bush's transcript from hours before, but couldn't be troubled to run that of the Iranian President. CNN did likewise.

The Boston Globe, Fox News, MSNBC, and most other news organizations also failed to either discuss the apocalyptic overtones of the Iranian President's remarks, or provide a transcript from easily available wire reports. To their credit, the Washington Post at least provided the transcript far down on their World News page, though they provided precious little commentary otherwise.

What is the reason the world media was apparently so eager to bury the content what was a highly anticipated speech by Iran’s flamboyant President?

It was likely his dark conclusion:

Whether we like it or not, justice, peace and virtue will sooner or later prevail in the world, with the will of the almighty God. It is imperative and also desirable that we, too, contribute to the promotion of justice and virtue. The almighty and merciful God, who is the creator of the universe, is also its lord and ruler. Justice is his command. He commands his creatures to support one another in good, virtue, and piety, and not in decadence and corruption.

He commands his creatures to enjoin one another to righteousness and virtue, and not to sin and transgression. All divine prophets, from the prophet Adam, peace be upon him, to the prophet Moses, to the prophet Jesus Christ, to the prophet Mohammad, have all called humanity to monotheism, justice, brotherhood, love and compassion.

Is it not possible to build a better world based on monotheism, justice, love and respect for the rights of human beings and thereby transform animosities into friendship?

I emphatically declare that today's world, more than ever before, longs for just and righteous people, with love for all humanity, and, above all, longs for the perfect righteous human being and the real savior who has been promised to all peoples and who will establish justice, peace and brotherhood on the planet.

Oh, almighty God, all men and women are your creatures and you have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirst for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by you, and makers among his followers and among those who strive for his return and his cause.

This same Iranian President spoke in front of the United Nations previously on September 17, 2005, a fact also missing from many news accounts of the last week. Those that did mention Ahmadinejad's September speech uniformly left off the fact that Ahmadinejad claimed that his September speech in Front of the same United Nations chamber was touched by the Divine:

Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad says that when he delivered his speech at the UN General Assembly in September, he felt there was a light around him and that the attention of the world leaders in the audience was unblinkingly focused upon him. The claim has caused a stir in Iran, as a transcript and video recording of Ahmadinejad's comments have been published on an Iranian website, baztab.com. There are also reports that a CD showing Ahmadinejad making the comments also has been widely distributed in Iran. Is the Iranian president claiming to be divinely inspired? Prague, 29 November 2005 (RFE/RL) -- According the report by baztab.com, President Ahmadinejad made the comments in a meeting with one of Iran's leading clerics, Ayatollah Javadi Amoli.

Ahmadinejad said that someone present at the UN told him that a light surrounded him while he was delivering his speech to the General Assembly. The Iranian president added that he also sensed it.

"He said when you began with the words 'in the name of God,' I saw that you became surrounded by a light until the end [of the speech]," Ahmadinejad appears to say in the video. "I felt it myself, too. I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there, and for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink."

Ahmadinejad adds that he is not exaggerating.

"I am not exaggerating when I say they did not blink; it's not an exaggeration, because I was looking," he says. "They were astonished as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic."

During this same speech, Ahmadinejad called for the near-term reappearance of the 12th Imam, who he feels will redeem the world through an apocalypse he feels his sect has the right and responsibility to create. As I noted in August, the mullahcracy that runs Iran belongs to the apocalyptic Hojjatieh sect, a branch of Shia Islam so radical it was banned in 1983 by Ayatollah Khomeini. Their views are, to put it mildly, are startling:

...rooted in the Shiite ideology of martyrdom and violence, the Hojjatieh sect adds messianic and apocalyptic elements to an already volatile theology. They believe that chaos and bloodshed must precede the return of the 12th Imam, called the Mahdi. But unlike the biblical apocalypse, where the return of Jesus is preceded by waves of divinely decreed natural disasters, the summoning of the Mahdi through chaos and violence is wholly in the realm of human action. The Hojjatieh faith puts inordinate stress on the human ability to direct divinely appointed events. By creating the apocalyptic chaos, the Hojjatiehs believe it is entirely in the power of believers to affect the Mahdi’s reappearance, the institution of Islamic government worldwide, and the destruction of all competing faiths. Ahmadinejad's speech last night echoed his beliefs last night. When he stated, "Whether we like it or not, justice, peace and virtue will sooner or later prevail in the world," sooner is now and later is a point that eerily seems to coincide with when many intelligence experts feel Iran may have the capability to build a functional nuclear weapon, and bring about the man-made Armageddon that the Hojjatieh sect feels is their obligation to Allah.

This leads us back full-circle to ask once more why major U.S. and world media outlets have largely refused to issue transcripts of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech last night to the United Nations, and why they chose to embargo his dramatic closing provided above.

I submit that if the media covered Ahmadinejad's full remarks including the religious references that they clearly and cleverly omitted, then they would have to confront the scope of the clear and present danger that the Iranian regime presents to the rest of the world. Admitting this danger goes against the carefully crafted narrative that they have led themselves to believe, a narrative that they have passed along to their readers and viewers that the United States and Israel are the root causes of problems in the Middle East.

To admit the dangers of the intertwining of Iranian nuclear weapons development with a radical and apocalyptic eschatology is to admit that President George W. Bush is correct in his determination to prevent Iran from developing the ability to effect a religious nuclear war. It is to admit that there are far greater dangers to our freedoms than terrorist surveillance programs and chilled members of al Qaeda.

To admit that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad means precisely what he says, and has said time and again, is to admit to larger dangers that neither the press nor the Democratic party they overwhelming support can admit. To admit to the truth—to show what Iran and its leader represent as a threat to the world—is to shatter a carefully crafted illusion they have formulated that most of the problems of the world originate at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

When faced with revealing a truth that would create cognitive dissonance, the media has made the subconscious decision to simply excise, and then ignore, the facts that undercut their "larger truth." They’d rather risk lives than admit the possibility that President Bush's concerns about a nuclear-armed Iran are precisely on target.

They aren't scared about the possibility of millions of people dying. That are far more fearful that the President is right, and that the world they've created for themselves is all too wrong.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 12thimam; ahmadinejad; apocalyptic; iran; islam; liberalmedia; mahdi; mehdi; msm; qiyama; qiyamah; twelfthimam; un
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To: JimSEA
Clinton failed to destroy Bin Laden when he had him in his grasp before the attackS on Americans...

GW allowed that piece of sh:t into the USA yesterday and didn't have that POS captured and destroyed

What we now wring our hands and gnash our teeth over the bin Laden not being stopped...will come back to us yet again with Ahmadinejad

I will never UNDERSTAND why we allowed that piece of sh:t onto US soil and allowed him to leave in one piece...never ever will I understand...

61 posted on 09/20/2006 5:33:18 PM PDT by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: FreedomNeocon
Just imagine GWB standing before the UN giving a long-winded speech...... "1948.....Israel....this generation shall not pass....Revelation....Armageddon....tread the wine press....even so, come, Lord Jesus......".

Would the reaction have been a quiet "Thank you for your speech"? Would our lying, cowardly MSM skip over it, as if it was perfectly normal?

62 posted on 09/20/2006 5:34:09 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FreedomNeocon
Dang! Excellent coverage and analysis from NewsBusters.

They [MSM] aren't scared about the possibility of millions of people dying. That are far more fearful that the President is right, and that the world they've created for themselves is all too wrong.

Deserves reiteration; it was so perfectly put.

63 posted on 09/20/2006 5:48:47 PM PDT by Alia
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To: saradippity
I think people should read it and discuss it and stop summarily dismissing it. It seems to me that this is the beginning of the dialog Pope Benedict says should start.

From the article:

As I noted in August, the mullahcracy that runs Iran belongs to the apocalyptic Hojjatieh sect, a branch of Shia Islam so radical it was banned in 1983 by Ayatollah Khomeini. Their views are, to put it mildly, are startling:

OK, saradippity. This is who and what you want us to "dialogue" with. You start. What do you say to folks like this?

64 posted on 09/20/2006 5:56:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Visualize dead terrorists! (don't let the libs tell you it's against the Geneva Convention))
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To: momincombatboots
Has anyone found the text for this speech yet?

Try here.

He is a raving lunatic, equally up there with Hugo Chavez.

Look at the Mahdist ending to his speech to the U.N.:

0, Almighty God, all men and women are Your creatures and You have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirsts for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers and among those who strive for his return and his cause.

65 posted on 09/20/2006 5:57:14 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: FreedomNeocon

".. MSNBC, and most other news organizations also failed to either discuss "

Tuesday night, during Brian Williams embarrassing sandal licking interview with I'mMadILoveDemsandHateJews- there was some commotion over the furniture in the hotel suite.
NBC showed footage of the chair rearrangements and the NBC Mideast correspondent, Richard Engel was in the room.
Engel rushed I'mmadilovedemsandhatejews as if he were a penitent sinner meeting the Pope.
Engel grabbed both his hands like he was about to kiss his ring and gave this cretin the broadest smile you have ever seen. Love was definitely in the air.
It was inappropriate , unprofessional and completely in keeping with the NBC/MSNBC standards of glamorizing terrorists and trashing President Bush and all things American.


66 posted on 09/20/2006 5:58:59 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Rameumptom

Yep.


67 posted on 09/20/2006 6:05:40 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: FreedomNeocon
[The media] aren't scared about the possibility of millions of people dying. That are far more fearful that the President is right, and that the world they've created for themselves is all too wrong.

Either that, or the media are simply too stupid to recognize the import of his remarks.

Given the average journalist's diminished power of critical thinking, that's a possibility. But the fact they buried the transcript suggests otherwise.

68 posted on 09/20/2006 6:07:57 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Ueriah
Oh boy. I'd bet a months pay that he had one of the leftist PR agencies in DC or New York work on that speech.

""After September 11, a particular radical group was accused of terrorist activities -- although it was never explained how such huge intelligence gathering and security organizations failed to prevent such an extensive and well planned operation.

i.e. it was the Jews and Bush that did it.

"For 8 years, Saddam's regime imposed a massive war of aggression and occupation on my people. It employed the most heinous weapons of mass destruction, including chemical weapons against Iranians and Iraqis alike. Who, in fact, armed Saddam with these weapons? What was the reaction of those who now claim to fight against WMDs regarding the use of chemical weapons back then? The world is witness to the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran, because of its humanitarian principles, even during the most testing of times and when it was sustaining the highest number of casualties, never allowed itself to use such weapons.

One of the biggest lies and myths ever created. The US never helped Saddam with WMDs, albeit, Germany, France and Russia did.

"Why powers that, not so long ago, were supporting the activities of such groups in Afghanistan and thus portraying themselves as supporters of human rights and the Afghan people have over night turned into their most fierce critic? "Are we to believe that their benefactors ,i.e. the very same hegemonic powers have lost control? "If the answer is yes, would it not be better for those powers to adopt an honest and transparent approach to the international community, provide precise information about the main elements and their arms and financial support system, and accept responsibility for their inhuman actions against nations and countries, and thereby assist peoples and nations to correctly, wisely and sincerely fight the roots of terrorism.

The US never supported the Talaban or any of the Arab radicals in the fight against the Russians. Who we supported through the 80s were precisely the same people who after 9-11, who with our assistance drove the Talaban out and now control the country -- the Northern Alliance and like groups. Bin Laden was never a CIA creature. It's another left-wing myth that has gained reality status after being repeated so often by the hate-America left. The Talaban were the entire creation of the Pakistani intel operation looking to control Afgan pipeline routes from the FSU gas fields.

Ninety percent of this speech has all the ear-marks of a high-powered US PR groups who probably expected it to be big news. But then the "real" voice came out with all the "Fundamentalist" religion stuff at the beginning and end which then made it total poison in the PC pond they swim in.

That is why we don't see ABCCBSNBC making it a top story.

69 posted on 09/20/2006 6:08:29 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: fso301
Good point. Please freepmail me the scriptures requiring that in order to be either a Christian or, be saved, one must be a Trinitarian.

Belief in the Three-in-One is orthodoxy, and has been established as such for centuries. I don't care to get into scriptural proofs with you, as clearly you are not buying it, and therefore won't be convinced.

But it's settled, othodox, Christian doctrine, and if you don't buy it, you're on the outside looking in. Deal with it.

70 posted on 09/20/2006 6:08:57 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Ditto
Bin Laden was never a CIA creature. It's another left-wing myth that has gained reality status after being repeated so often by the hate-America left.

Yes. Which goes beyond lending credence to being actual proof that Ahmadingyjob is using DNC/looney-lib/Soros talking points as the basis of his propaganda. It is clear that the rest of these jihadi nutcakes and Hugo Chavez are too.

It originates with western leftists. The western MSM provides the ground to disseminate and validate it.

71 posted on 09/20/2006 6:20:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Visualize dead terrorists! (don't let the libs tell you it's against the Geneva Convention))
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To: Oberon
But it's settled, othodox, Christian doctrine, and if you don't buy it, you're on the outside looking in. Deal with it.

Your position would have far greater credibility if leaders of orthodoxy didn't feel compelled to periodically apologize for something a predecessor had done.

72 posted on 09/20/2006 6:31:25 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301
Your position would have far greater credibility...

...if you hadn't already decided it's wrong. Sorry, I'm not engaging; believe as you like.

73 posted on 09/20/2006 6:33:34 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Rameumptom

74 posted on 09/20/2006 6:38:43 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: AZLiberty
Is acceptable until it is their own throat being cut, you mean. They are cavalier enough with the lives of others.

The larger truth the whole episode reveals is a point made by Hannah Arendt in Origins of Totalitarianism - that for some people, the whole point of political power is to enact their fantasies, to live in the world of their dreams instead of the real world, to force the real world to conform to their psychological wishes, or more exactly to keep up the appearance that it does so. Not for any material advantage, but because the maintenance of their inner sense of righteousness and all-knowingness is vastly more important to them than any mere worldly interest - including millions of lives, other peoples or their own.

75 posted on 09/20/2006 7:38:59 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: fso301
Not all Christians are Trinitarians.

Isaac Newton (qv) being a notable example.

76 posted on 09/20/2006 7:49:42 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: FlyVet

Excellent points.


77 posted on 09/20/2006 8:14:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: everyone

I dont know if its been said by any of you but to me that ahmedinejad looks like a devil or anti-christ and chavez looks like the demon at his right hand....seriously though he does look like one of them gargoyles you see on the upper corner of a cathedral...that face and pointy ears and sunken dark eyes and uni-brow.


78 posted on 09/20/2006 9:54:32 PM PDT by north_georgia_republican
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To: TigersEye
It was the author of the article posted that made the comment on the Hojjatieh sect. When I googled Hojjatieh to get more info on it,I found no certainty whatsoever regarding whether or not Ahmadinejad was a member of that sect.

So,I guess I would just ask him to clarify what it is that he means by his last sentence or prayer:

Oh Almighty Lord,I pray to you to hasten the emergence of your last repository,the promised one,that perfect and pure human being,the one that will fill the world with justice and peace.

The continued dialog would be based on his answer.

Although I have read that many people in the west believe that the 12th Imam,will only come after a period of chaos and therefore assume that Islam will seek to create this chaos,the particular speech that Ahmadinejad gave to the U.N. yesterday did not indicate that at all. In fact,it almost seemed that this "last repository" would only come if mankind sought lives of justice and peace.

It could be the awaited Messiah of the Jews,the awaited "last repository" of the Muslims and the second coming the Christians await,may all be Jesus Christ.

After,getting clarification on that,I would then go back to his specific complaints and allegations and get the facts and respond accordingly. Without truth we just go round in circles and get more and more tangled up.

79 posted on 09/20/2006 11:28:18 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: FreedomNeocon
For an explanation of the Islamic End-Times beliefs held by Iran's Pres. Ahmadinejad, see my FR homepage and links page.

Hojjatieh faith puts inordinate stress on the human ability to direct divinely appointed events. By creating the apocalyptic chaos, ....

I still have not seen any direct evidence that this is truly what the Hojjatieh believe. The only sources I have seen for this accusation are their political and theological rivals. If anyone has evidence that they believe this "creating chaos" business, please send it to me.

the Hojjatiehs believe it is entirely in the power of believers to affect the Mahdi’s reappearance,

I can easily accept that they believe men can "pave the way" for the Mahdi.

But either way, they should not be allowed to get their hands on nukes.

80 posted on 09/20/2006 11:52:08 PM PDT by Dajjal
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