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[Michigan Gov. Candidate] DeVos says he wants intelligent design taught in science classes
Michigan Live ^ | 20 September 2006 | Kathy Barks Hoffman

Posted on 09/20/2006 12:34:51 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

Republican gubernatorial candidate Dick DeVos says Michigan's science curriculum should include a discussion about intelligent design.

He says including intelligent design along with evolution would help students discern the facts among different theories.

"I would like to see the ideas of intelligent design — that many scientists are now suggesting is a very viable alternative theory — that that theory and others that would be considered credible would expose our students to more ideas, not less," DeVos told The Associated Press this week during an interview on education.

Intelligent design's proponents hold that living organisms are so complex they must have been created by a higher force rather than evolving from more primitive forms. Some want science teachers to teach that Darwin's theory of evolution is not a fact and has gaps.

However, a federal judge in December barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes. The judge said that intelligent design is religion masquerading as science, and that teaching it alongside evolution violates the separation of church and state. [Kitzmiller et al. v Dover Area School District et al.]

Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm has said that Michigan schools need to teach the established theory of evolution in science classes and not include intelligent design, but can explore intelligent design in a current events or a comparative religions class.

The State Board of Education last week postponed adopting new science curriculum guidelines until state lawmakers get more time to weigh in on what the state's public schools science curriculum should be and how it should approach the teaching of evolution.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Michigan
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Everybody be nice.
1 posted on 09/20/2006 12:34:53 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
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See the list's explanation, then FReepmail to be added or dropped.
To assist beginners: But it's "just a theory", Evo-Troll's Toolkit,
and How to argue against a scientific theory.

2 posted on 09/20/2006 12:36:14 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Science-denial is not conservative. It's reality-denial and it's unhealthy.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Scientific theory should be taught in science class.

Religious theory should be taught in religion class.

3 posted on 09/20/2006 12:36:24 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott

Not if they intersect.


4 posted on 09/20/2006 12:39:12 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: PatrickHenry

I think students should be exposed to alternative economic models as well. Equal time for multi-level marketing! "Now, children, please open up your notebooks - we're going to draw some circles..."


5 posted on 09/20/2006 12:40:07 PM PDT by jennyp (There's ALWAYS time for jibber jabber!)
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To: PatrickHenry

They should teach the Flood, too, along with the geologic column, and the Parting of the Red Sea along with Global Warming.


6 posted on 09/20/2006 12:40:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: PatrickHenry
Be nice? Be nice? Hmmm, ok. I think he is wrong.

Ok, actually, I DO think it should be given an amount of time in science class, worthy of its contribution to science. That would be about 3 minutes, at the begining of Evolutionary theory class, which itself should run about 20 hours or so. A simple statement like "Intelligent Design is the idea that, a higher power or being created the Universe, earth, and all the life encountered on it." That didn't take long. Class dismissed.

7 posted on 09/20/2006 12:40:50 PM PDT by Paradox (The "smarter" the individual, the greater his power of self-delusion.)
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To: teenyelliott

"Religious theory should be taught in religion class."

And Darwin should be taught in a barnyard, with the rest of the BS.


8 posted on 09/20/2006 12:40:58 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Ronald Reagan didn't turn me into a Republican....Jimmy Carter did that!!)
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that many scientists

Behe, Dembski,....ummm lets see.....

Did I mention Behe?

9 posted on 09/20/2006 12:41:10 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: cornelis

They don't. And ID is not a theory no matter how often Dick DeVos claims such.


10 posted on 09/20/2006 12:41:34 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: teenyelliott

So then, the THEORY (religion) of evolution (all faith based since no scientific facts have been unearthed to support it) should be taught in "religion class"?


11 posted on 09/20/2006 12:42:06 PM PDT by prov1813man
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To: cornelis
I do not want my children to be taught religion in science class.

It is MY job as a parent to educate my children in regard to religion.

Of course the same cannot be said if one chooses to send one's children to private religious schools.

12 posted on 09/20/2006 12:42:34 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: PatrickHenry

Nutcase.


13 posted on 09/20/2006 12:42:37 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (ID folks ignore the Scorpion God.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Dick DeVos

Is this guy late to the party or what?

Hey Dick, hellooooo! ID proponents are getting their collective a$$es handed to them nationwide. This isnt a winning strategy!

14 posted on 09/20/2006 12:43:13 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: RadioAstronomer

There are some areas where different fields overlap; this doesn't mean the fields are identical. Everybody knows this.


15 posted on 09/20/2006 12:44:00 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: PatrickHenry
Hey there was a big typo, it should say:

that many scientists are one scientist is now suggesting is a very viable alternative theory

16 posted on 09/20/2006 12:44:16 PM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Beagle8U
And Darwin should be taught in a barnyard, with the rest of the BS.

Not a big fan of science I see.

17 posted on 09/20/2006 12:44:38 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: PatrickHenry

Looks like another case of a Republican competing for the Darwin Political Award.

Watch the party go down the drain.


18 posted on 09/20/2006 12:44:55 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: jennyp
I think students should be exposed to alternative economic models as well. Equal time for multi-level marketing!

Nice b!tch-slap to Scamway, ma'am!

19 posted on 09/20/2006 12:45:04 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Paradox

Class, we will now discuss all of the scientific evidence known to justify "Intelligent Design"... (sound of crickets chirping).


20 posted on 09/20/2006 12:45:05 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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