When Earth Turned Bad: New Evidence Supports Terrestrial Cause Of End-Permian Mass Extinction

Science Daily ^ | December 8, 2004 | Christian Koeberl team leader

[freedumb2003]

Your reply does not follow from the report. Actually, you sound quite ridiculous, to be blunt.

From the report...

Their findings promise to fuel what is already one of the hottest debates in earth science.

And since I have taken a vow of nicetude, I won't tell you how you sound.

[chuckles]

"Fountains of the deep" is not a rainstorm. The land had upheavals and buried the surface, along with everything on it. Just go dig somewhere and you will find them, like on top of mountains. That is why the animals were preserved as fossils and didn't rot away like the evolution theory would suggest. Go find an armadillo dead on the side of the road and go back in a few weeks. It will be gone. Find another and bury it under tons of mud. It will still be there if and when you decide to go dig for it.

Re read the Bible and this time don't let your pre conceived children stories get in the way of reading what the text actually says. Also, as an aside, look up the name Peleg in Genesis ( I think it's in chpt 6) and it will talk about the continent's splitting. I believe science calls it Pangea or something like that. This explains the Mastodons freezing standing up with fresh buttercups in their bellies. Maybe the poles reversed in one day?

[AntiGuv]

First of all, the "windows of heaven" are clearly a rainstorm. Second, the "fountains of the deep" simply refers to the oceans, as is quite clear in the other places where the Old Testament uses that phrase.

[Quix]

THANKS.

[RightWhale]

Science, philosophy and theology should not be mixed. Each has its own area where it is good.

[RightWhale]

Ge 10:25

[Fred Nerks]

Earth shattering!

[AntiGuv]

Just out of idle curiosity, what exactly is it that you think explains the frozen mastodons? I'll grant you that the verse about Shem's heirs dividing up land somehow refers to plate tectonics. Sure, whatever. But what mental acrobatics take you from there to the frozen mastodons, and how does that segue in with magnetic pole reversals?

[Raycpa]

Um, yeah, that's exactly what it says.

One of us needs reading glasses.

[AntiGuv]

One of us needs to stop wasting his time with pointless nonsense. That one is me. See ya later. I'm done with this thread.

[Raycpa]

Why would the text have an AND if the words meant the same thing? In any case, here is Strongs on the phrase "fountains of the deep". (The last I checked, a spring is not rain but that is just me)

ma`yan {mah-yawn'} or ma`y@now (Ps. 114:8) {mah-yen-o'} Word Origin: from 5869 (as a denominative in the sense of a spring) TDNT: 1613a Part of Speech: noun masculine Usage in the KJV: fountain 16, well 5, springs 2 Total: 23 Definition: 1. spring TDNT - Theological Dictio

[AntiGuv]

help if you want it

Please don't ping me here further.

[Raycpa]

I'm done with this thread.

You are done because you realize you are flat out wrong.

Here is another use of the Hebrew word used in the above text. In no way could it be interpreted to mean rain.

. Chapter 114 1 When Israel went out of Egypt, the house of Jacob from a people of strange language;
2 Judah was his sanctuary, and Israel his dominion.
3 The sea saw it , and fled: Jordan was driven back.
4 The mountains skipped like rams, and the little hills like lambs.
5 What ailed thee, O thou sea, that thou fleddest? thou Jordan, that thou wast driven back?
6 Ye mountains, that ye skipped like rams; and ye little hills, like lambs?
7 Tremble, thou earth, at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the God of Jacob;
8 Which turned the rock into a standing water, the flint into a fountain of waters.

[RobbyS]

Life on this planet hangs by a thread.

[Raycpa]

I can see where the opening of heavens is a metaphor for rain but how in the world "all the fountains of the great deep were broken up" is a metaphor for rain is beyond me and further why the need for 2 metaphors in the same sentence is even more troublesome. No, the verse is describing separate things.

I'm sorry some wish to maintain ignorance in order to keep their view of a bible verse in accordance with their personal belief system rather than admit they are wrong.

[razorbak]

The "SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY" has always had a large number of members willing to prostitute themselves to the majority or to those in government who offer virtually unlimited funding, perks and prestige. Just look at the global warming debate today, and the shunning of those down through history who challenged the accepted wisdom of their time.

[RightWhale]

widespread volcanic activity may have been the 'smoking gun,'

The Siberia event was big. Not only were many species extinguished, but entire families. Is this post off topic?

[freedumb2003]

The "SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY" has always had a large number of members willing to prostitute themselves to the majority or to those in government who offer virtually unlimited funding, perks and prestige. Just look at the global warming debate today, and the shunning of those down through history who challenged the accepted wisdom of their time.

The "SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY" are pikers compared to the number of people in the "RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY" willing to prostitute themselves to the majority or to those in government who offer virtually unlimited funding, perks and prestige.

The "RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY" has thousands of years of a head start. But their efforts in the last 2 centuries are pretty impressive, too.

They make scientist fakers look like armatures.

[freedumb2003]

You are done because you realize you are flat out wrong.

Never EVER deliver facts to sacntimony.

[Raycpa]

Never EVER deliver facts to sacntimony.

I am not intelligent enough to understand what you are trying to say.