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Iran running out of options ~~ UN Sanctions coming?
Asia Times Online ^ | Aug 23, 2006 | Kaveh L Afrasiabi

Posted on 08/22/2006 2:21:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Iran faces a dilemma. It can neither fully accept nor reject the package of incentives offered by Germany and the United Nations Security Council's permanent five (the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Russia and China), irrespective of the growing international pressure, the UN's deadline of August 31 and the threat of international sanctions.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraniansanctions

1 posted on 08/22/2006 2:21:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

UN sanctions, why they must be quaking in their sandles. Yes let's negotiate with them in earnest while they continue to work on nuclear projects they want to use to kill us with.


2 posted on 08/22/2006 2:23:36 PM PDT by Modok
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh no! not the dreaded, powerless UN Sanctions.

Those worked so well with Saddam.


3 posted on 08/22/2006 2:24:00 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: Modok

Yeah Im sure those sanctions are gonna shake those koranimals to the core.


4 posted on 08/22/2006 2:24:12 PM PDT by samadams2000
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We all know how relevant the UN is with its set of gums.


5 posted on 08/22/2006 2:24:33 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: All
And:

Iran Balks at Nuclear Deal

************************AN EXCERPT *********************************

Experts say Iran may be using the negotiations as a stalling tactic until the August 31 deadline to observe what positions Russia and China take. Both countries have given mixed signals on whether they would support the application of Chapter Seven powers, which enable the Security Council to impose sanctions or employ military force, should Tehran choose not to suspend its nuclear programs by the deadline. The head of Iran's atomic energy program said the country's nuclear capabilities, at least from a scientific standpoint, had advanced to the point where "suspension of uranium enrichment is not possible anymore" (CSMonitor).

Bill Samii of RFE/RL examines potential responses by Iran, should the United Nations impose sanctions. One possibility is Iran, which accounts for 10 percent of the world's oil reserves, could restrict oil experts and further cripple energy markets. Another is Iran could pull out of the NPT. Then there is the outside chance Tehran might use military force somewhere in the region, a threat highlighted by recent tests of its naval forces.

6 posted on 08/22/2006 2:24:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Iran will always have the (C)BS option.


7 posted on 08/22/2006 2:24:42 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
UN Sanctions coming?

O, the horror.

8 posted on 08/22/2006 2:25:04 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Down With Half-Assery!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If you looked on craigslist.com, I'm sure you could find a 14 year old toothless poodle to add to the threat.
9 posted on 08/22/2006 2:25:34 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (UN Security Council resolution 1701: I believe it is ceasefire for our time.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sanctions first..but don't despair, they're already working on the dreaded "letter of deep concern"..


10 posted on 08/22/2006 2:25:43 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They need to sanction their allotment of oxygen. The Mullahs are using far too much.
11 posted on 08/22/2006 2:25:50 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From Sept. 2004:

Iran Faces 'Nuclear Ulimatum'

12 posted on 08/22/2006 2:27:06 PM PDT by untenured
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It's in the cards...

The terms Iran and Nuclear Holocust will be joined throughout the rest of documentable history...

The only question remains -- will it be Iran, the U.S. or Israel that is destroyed, or all three.

Semper Fi


13 posted on 08/22/2006 2:27:08 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: msnimje
They need to sanction their allotment of oxygen

A well placed MOAB will do that nicely.

14 posted on 08/22/2006 2:27:42 PM PDT by llevrok (When you take my gin from my cold, dead hand....)
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To: Dr. Marten

The way we got screwed with those sanctions it's amazing we want to come back for more. The "world" blamed us for 10000 Iraqi children dying a month while THEY were selling to him under the table. They got us in both ends on that deal.


15 posted on 08/22/2006 2:28:27 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our TimeŽ)
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To: samadams2000

Yes the UN will undoubtedly use the comfy chair on the Iranians. The Iranians are really going to regret this.


16 posted on 08/22/2006 2:28:52 PM PDT by Modok
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To: samadams2000

The UN has ZERO enforcment ability. In fact the UN Security Council that Bush says needs to be heeded could turn on us at any time. If I was a dirty godless pirate regime I would say "yes, give me the money Mr. US taxpayer", and continue with my nuke program until finished.


17 posted on 08/22/2006 2:29:24 PM PDT by samadams2000
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sanctions?
As long as countries like France and Germany are around these sanctions will be meaningless.
As long as they can make a buck they will ignore sanctions.


18 posted on 08/22/2006 2:35:53 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Beware the fury of the "stronly worded letter" from the UN... ooo-aaa-ooo


19 posted on 08/22/2006 2:37:24 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: All
What....nobody believes the author....lots of skeptics around here....

I'll check back later....got to see a dentist about a tooth!

20 posted on 08/22/2006 2:46:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
UN Sanctions translates into massive opportunity for corruption, embezzlement and lining one's own pocket for these countries.
21 posted on 08/22/2006 2:54:14 PM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Dr. Marten

Let me ask you this, has the UN always been impotent or just since Kofi Annan? If the latter, when is his term up? Granted, I appreciate that we may just get someone who is outright corrupt, as opposed to Kofi who is just innept and sort of corrupt.


22 posted on 08/22/2006 2:57:03 PM PDT by ark_girl
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To: Modok
My thoughts exactly. UN sanctions have always been such a deterrent in the past, haven't they?
23 posted on 08/22/2006 3:09:56 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: KarlInOhio
I just searched craigslist, sorry no toothless poodles. However, this guy just volunteered to help out:


24 posted on 08/22/2006 3:21:05 PM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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To: Modok

I'll say this for Iran. They are alot smarter than the Western world - they know and recognize a fool organization when they see one.


25 posted on 08/22/2006 3:21:29 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

UN Sanctions......"Stop! Or I will be forced to say stop again!!!"


26 posted on 08/22/2006 3:32:54 PM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: ark_girl

This December Kofi hits the trail


27 posted on 08/22/2006 3:33:51 PM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Experts say Iran may be using the negotiations as a stalling tactic

No!? Thank goodness for 'experts'

28 posted on 08/22/2006 3:39:40 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: yldstrk

We all know how relevant the UN is with its set of gums.

If ever there was a cause for Gum control, the UN is it.
When will we stop the cycle of Gum violets.
The UN has killed more people with Gum violets than anyone.


29 posted on 08/22/2006 3:39:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Dr. Marten
Oh no! not the dreaded, powerless UN Sanctions.

Then everyone crucified us for wanting them to be enforced.

30 posted on 08/22/2006 3:42:40 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Iran running out of options ~~ UN Sanctions coming?

We know how wonderfully they worked in Iraq. LOL!

31 posted on 08/22/2006 3:48:10 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BFD


32 posted on 08/22/2006 3:53:35 PM PDT by EricT. (SpecOps needs to paint the NYT building with a targeting laser.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

NOw, when the UN refuses to back up their woreds, and the terrorists are emboldened, what is the plan that John Kerry would use? Where is the plan from the Hildebeast? What would John Dean do? Step up to the plate, tyou three bozos and tell us of the plans that would work, rather than waiting for a post-election revelation..do it for the good of tnhe country.

Who knows, if it works, maybe you'll be elected.


33 posted on 08/22/2006 4:26:57 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: samadams2000
"Yeah Im sure those sanctions are gonna shake those koranimals to the core."

Let's see. We had the oil for food scandal between Saddam and the U.N. Do I smell another oil for food scandal brewing between the Mookster and Kofi?

34 posted on 08/22/2006 6:05:45 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Experts say Iran may be using the negotiations as a stalling tactic...

My god, those "experts" are brilliant. How come none of us peons ever thought of that?

35 posted on 08/22/2006 7:19:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

I think the West, including the U.S., is making a mistake by assuming that we can diplomatically negotiate with a regime which is totally irrational.

The fanatic who heads Iran has an apocalyptic religious vision that welcomes total destruction of infidels and the coming of the 12th Imam. In order to have rational talks with such a 7th century jihadist mentality, we'd have to assume he doesn't really believe what he's saying. Are we willing to take that risk?

Relative to sanctions, they're as preposterous as the UN itself. Even IF they're enacted do we seriously believe that Russia, North Korea, and the other nations who made enormous profits arming them in the first place are going to cooperate? Give me a break!

Iran is certainly stalling for time. But what scares me is that it seems we are too. I think it's time the administration stopped kicking the can down the road and began to consider serious measures.

I've heard some pundits say we negotiated with the Soviet Union, why not Iran? Netanyahou had the perfect answer. He said that even though the Soviets had an irrational ideology they basically conducted foreigns rationallly --- that is, they were rational enough to NOT want mutually assured destruction! It's time we face the fact that fanatics who WELCOME "martyrdom" and death for Allah are not within the realm of rationality. Should we just offer more carrots and wait and see?



36 posted on 08/22/2006 7:23:52 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

Well, they aren't irrational.....they just manipulate the WEST with their ACT and Techniques!


37 posted on 08/22/2006 7:48:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YjIzYTg5ZjdmYzIyOWFkZGU3NzE4MGIzMzViMjAyMjY=

POINT OF NO RETURN IN THE IRAN NUCLEAR CRISIS...? [Mario Loyola] ..."In my piece in the current (August 28) print edition of National Review, I described precisely this eventuality as a point of no return, and argued that the United States should invoke preemption if this ever happened..."

It's a short excerpt from a subs article- he says IF Iran blocked inspectors, then we should bomb now, since we would be completely in the dark. We would have to bomb now, because the threat could be imminent before we knew it... THAT was Iran's answer, IMO - blocking inspectors. The formal reply was probably more of the same. This is a great point, and this is different from Saddam. 10-12 years is too long to fiddle with the UN. If we go that same route again, we are basically blessing Iran's nuke ambitions.


38 posted on 08/22/2006 10:20:45 PM PDT by PghBaldy (CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
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To: PghBaldy

I would like to know something: when did we decide to allow the UN to dictate our national security? Why is this acceptable? All of this UN stupidity is maddening. They will not give up nukes. How many times will Iran have to say it before we believe it?


39 posted on 08/22/2006 10:25:37 PM PDT by PghBaldy (CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The two are not mutually exclusive. But consider what sort of religious fanaticism is being loudly and proudly proclaimed and consider also recent history -- then tell me it's not irrational.


40 posted on 08/23/2006 12:46:09 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: PghBaldy

The standard seems to be 17 resolutions before action is taken by sort of implied authoirty of the UN, but only if someone wants to step up to be the world's police. That's how it worked in Iraq. But Kofi's son has to make a fortune trading with the enemy by violating one of the coming UN sanctions first. They have to move fast since Kofi is out in December.


41 posted on 08/23/2006 5:59:53 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: LachlanMinnesota; T.L.Sink; PghBaldy
I just posted this:

Iran wants talks, France says stop atomic work first

42 posted on 08/23/2006 10:49:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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