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I'll repeat my reply to post 50 once more. Provide the alleged list of correct predictions and I'll respond to each and every one of them. In the meantime, I've given you a taste of why Golitsyn is wrong in other posts.


58 posted on 08/22/2006 5:41:15 PM PDT by Romanov (Golytsinites = "Lenin's Useful Idiots denying Reagan's Legacy")
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To: Romanov; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; spanalot; strategofr; familyop; GSlob; TigerLikesRooster; ...

==Romanov writes: Provide the alleged list of correct predictions and I'll respond to each and every one of them.

I have provided every single Golitsyn prediction below. Remember, you promised to answer each and every one of them. So have at it--GGG

Below appears direct quotes out of Anitoliy Golitsyns book NEW LIES FOR OLD, which was published by Dodd, Meade & Company © 1984. The below excerpts appear verbatim on pages 327 through 346, chapter 25, "The Final Phase".






“…to engage in maneuvers and stratagems beyond the imagination of Marx or the practical reach of Lenin and unthinkable to Stalin.”



“…introduction of false liberalization in Eastern Europe, and probably, in the Soviet Union.”



“…and the exhibition of spurious independence on the part of the regimes in Romania, Czechoslovakia, and Poland.”



“A coalition government in Poland would in fact be totalitarianism under a new, deceptive, and more dangerous guise.”



“Accepted as the spontaneous emergence of a new form of multiparty, semi democratic regime, it would serve to undermine resistance to communism inside and outside the communist block.”



“The need for massive defense expenditure would increasingly be questioned in the West.”



“New possibilities would arise for splitting Western Europe away from the United States, of neutralizing Germany, and destroying NATO.”



“With North American influence in Latin America also undermined…”



“…the stage would be set for achieving actual revolutionary changes in the Western world through spurious changes in the communist system.”



“If in a reasonable time “liberalization” can be successfully achieved in Poland and elsewhere, it will serve to revitalize the communist regimes concerned.”



“The activities of the false opposition will further confuse and undermine the genuine opposition in the communist world.”



“”Liberalization” will create conditions for establishing solidarity between trade unions and intellectuals in the communist and noncommunist worlds.”



“In time such alliances will generate new forms of pressure against Western “militarism”, “racism”, and “military industrial complexes” and in favor of disarmament and the kid of structural changes in the West predicted in Sakharov’s writings.”



“…well be followed by the apparent withdrawal of one or more communist countries from the Warsaw Pact to serve as the model of a “neutral” socialist state for the whole of Europe to follow.”



“Yugoslavia may be expected to play a conspicuous role in the new scenario.”

“A display of Sino-Soviet rivalry for influence in Europe may be expected on the lines of the “struggle for hegemony” already being witnessed in South-East Asia.”



“…to assist in the creation of new, false alignments between communist and noncommunist powers, and…”



“…to break up the existing NATO structure and replace it with a system of European collective security entailing the ultimate withdrawal of the American military presence from Western Europe…”



“…and the growth of communist influence there.”



“…with the single overall objective of brining Iran into an anti-Western alliance with them.”



“The object of the alliance would be to gain control over a strategically vital area of the Middle East.”



“It [the next five years] will be marked by a major coordinated communist offensive intended to exploit the success of the strategic disinformation program over the past twenty years and to take advantage of the crisis and mistakes it has engendered in Western policies toward the communist bloc.”



“The overall aim will be to bring about a major and irreversible shift in the balance of world power in favor of the bloc as a preliminary to the final ideological objective of establishing a worldwide federation of communist states.”



“A closer alignment of an independent socialist Europe with the Soviet bloc and a parallel alignment of the United States with China. Japan, depending on whether it remains conservative or moves toward socialism, might join either combination.”



“A joint drive by the Soviet bloc and a socialist Europe to seek allies in the Third World against the United States and China.”



“In the military field, an intensive effort to achieve US nuclear disarmament.”



“In the ideological and political field, East-West convergence on communist terms.”



“The creation of a world federation of communist states.”



“The element of apparent duality in Soviet and Chinese policies will disappear.”



“The hitherto concealed coordination between them will become visible and predominant.”



“Thus the scissors strategy will develop logically into the “strategy of one clenched fist” to provide the foundation and driving force of a world communist federation.”



“The suggested European option would be promoted by a revival of controlled “democratization” on the Czechoslovak pattern in Eastern Europe, including probably Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union.”



“The justification of hard line policies and methods in the Soviet Union, exemplified by Sakharov’s arrest and the occupation of Afghanistan, presages a switch to “democratization” following, perhaps, Brezhnev’s departure from the political scene.”



“Brezhnev’s successor may well appear to be a kind of Soviet Dubcek.”



“Conceivably an announcement will be made to the effect that the economic and political foundations of communism in the Soviet Union have been laid and that democratization is therefore possible.”



“The Brezhnev regime and its neo-Stalinistic actions against “dissidents”….”



“…and in Afghanistan would be condemned as Novotny’s regime was condemned in 1968.”



“In the economic field reforms might be expected to bring Soviet practice more into line with Yugoslav, or even, seemingly, with Western socialist models.”



“Some economic ministries might be dissolved;….”



“…control would be more decentralized;…”



“…individual self-managing firms might be created from existing plants and factories;…”



“…material incentives would be increased;…”



“…the independent role of technocrats, workers’ councils, and trade unions would be enhanced;…”



“…the party’s control over the economy would be apparently diminished.”



“Such reforms would be based on Soviet experience in the 1920’s and 1960’s, as well as on Yugoslav experience.”



“The party would be less conspicuous, but would continue to control the economy from behind the scenes as before.”



“Political “liberalization” and “democratization” would follow the general lines of the Czechoslovak rehearsal in 1968.”



“The “liberalization” would be spectacular and impressive.”



“Formal pronouncements might be made about a reduction in the communist party’s role;…”



“…it’s monopoly would be apparently curtailed.”



“An ostensible separation of powers between the legislative, the executive, and the judiciary might be introduced.”



“The Supreme Soviet would be given greater apparent power…”



“…and the president and deputies greater apparent independence.”



“The posts of president of the Soviet Union and first secretary of the party might well be separated.”



“The KGB would be “reformed”.”



“Dissidents at home would be amnestied…”



“…those in exile abroad would be allowed to return,…”



“…and some would take up positions of leadership in government.”



“Sakharov [Sakharov was the father of the Soviet hydrogen bomb, and earned the Nobel Peace Prize in 1975 for his campaigns for nuclear disarmament. He was exiled in 1980 and returned to a hero’s welcome in 1986. He died in 1989.] might be included in some capacity in the government or allowed to teach abroad.”



“The creative arts and cultural and scientific organizations, such as the writers’ unions and Academy of Sciences, would become apparently more independent, as would the trade unions.”



“Political clubs would be opened to nonmembers of the communist party.”



“Leading dissidents might form one or more alternative political parties.”



“Censorship would be relaxed; controversial books, plays, films, and art would be published, performed, and exhibited.”



“Many prominent Soviet performing artists now abroad would return to the Soviet Union and resume their professional careers.”



“Constitutional amendments would be adopted to guarantee fulfillment of the provisions of the Helsinki agreements and a semblance of compliance would be maintained.”



“There would be greater freedom for Soviet citizens to travel.”



“Western and United Nations observers would be invited to the Soviet Union to witness the reforms in action.”



“…the dissident movement is now being prepared for the most important aspect of its strategic role, which will be to persuade the West of the authenticity of Soviet “liberalization” when it comes.”



“Further high-level defectors, or “official émigrés,” may well make their appearance in the West before the switch in policy occurs.”



“Since the Soviets signed the CSCE agreements, they may be expected at some stage, at least, to go through the motions with complying with them.”



“ “Liberalization” in Eastern Europe would probably involve the return to power in Czechoslovakia of Dubcek and his associates.”



“If it should be extended to East Germany, demolition of the Berlin Wall might even be contemplated.”



“Western acceptance of the new “liberalization” as genuine would create favorable conditions for the fulfillment of the communist strategy for the United States, Western Europe, and even, perhaps, Japan.”



“The pressure for united fronts between communist and socialist parties and trade unions at national and international level would be intensified.”



“United front governments under strong communist influence might well come to power in France, Italy, and possibly other countries.”



“Elsewhere the fortunes and influence of communist parties would be much revived.”



“The bulk of Europe might well turn to left-wing socialism, leaving only a few pockets of conservative resistance.”



“The Czechoslovaks, in contrast with their performance in 1968, might well take the initiative, along with the Romanians and Yugoslavs, in proposing (in the CSCE context) the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact in return for the dissolution of NATO.”



“The disappearance of the Warsaw Pact would have little effect on the coordination of the communist bloc,…”



“…but the dissolution of NATO could well mean the departure of American forces from the European continent and a closer European alignment with a “liberalized” Soviet bloc.”



“Perhaps in the longer run, a similar process might affect the relationship between the United States and Japan leading to abrogation of the security pact between them.”



“The EEC on present lines, even if enlarged, would not be a barrier to the neutralization of Europe and the withdrawal of American troops.”



“The European Parliament might become an all-European socialist parliament with representation from the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.”



“ “Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals” would turn out to be a neutral, socialist Europe.”



“The United States, betrayed by her former European allies, would tend to withdraw into fortress America, or, with the few remaining conservative countries, including perhaps Japan, would seen an alliance with China as the only counterweight to Soviet power.”



“ “Liberalization” in Eastern Europe on the scale suggested could have a social and political impact on the United States itself, especially if it coincided with a severe economic depression.”



“The communist bloc will not repeat its error in failing to exploit a slump as it did in 1929-32.”



“The bloc would certainly have an interest in secretly building up reserves of oil and grain that could be used for political purposes in a time of crisis to support newly established procommunist governments in Europe or else-where.”



“ “Liberalization” in the Soviet Union could well be accompanied by a deepening of the Sino-Soviet split.”



“This might include a rupture in trade and diplomatic relations, an increase in spectacular frontier incidents, and perhaps deeper incursions into one another’s territory on the lines of the Chinese “invasion” of Vietnam in 1979…”



“It would encourage an even closer alignment with China of the United States and any other surviving conservative nations against a Soviet-socialist European coalition.”



“Military cooperation would be included in the alignment and China might go so far as to offer bases in return for help in building up her military potential.”



“A breach in diplomatic relations between the Soviet Union and China might complicate but would not interrupt the process of policy coordination between them.”



“…Romaina and Yugoslavia at least might be expected to maintain their representation in Peking if the Soviets were to withdraw or the be “thrown out.” “



“To some extent, Sino-Soviet coordination could be carried on through Romanian and Yugoslav intermediaries.”



“Another possibility is that direct, secret communications links exist between the Soviet Union and China that are not accessible to the West.”



“In addition, there is the possible existence of a secret bloc headquarters staffed by senior representatives of the major communist states…”



“Some of the remaining conservative Third World countries would be strongly drawn toward a socialist orientation.”



“Resistance to communism from the Socialist International would be replaced by a combined communist-socialist drive for Third World influence, backed by economic aid.”



“It would have far-reaching consequences, especially if US aid should be curtailed in response to a severe depression.”



“Cuba, which might follow the Soviet example of “liberalization” (the 1980 Cuban emigration might be part of the preparation for such a move) would play an active role in the liberalization struggle.”



“Those leaders of the nonaligned movement who had close relations with communist countries would try to involve the rest of the nonaligned movement in concerted actions with communists and social democrats to promote the joint aims of procuring the disarmament of the United States and the reduction of its role as a world power; of isolating Israel, South Africa, and Chile; and of helping liberation movements in Latin America, and Chile; and of helping liberation movements in Latin America, Southern Africa, and the Middle East, especially the PLO.”



“A variety of forums-the UN, the OAU, and the Brandt commission on the North-South problem-would be used for exerting political and economic pressure, including, if possible, the denial of oil.”



“In apparent competition with the Soviet Union, China would step up its Third World activity.”

“The United States could be tempted to encourage the growth in influence of China and her associates, such as Egypt, Somalia, and the Sudan, as a barrier to Soviet expansion.”



“American support for China would greatly improve her openings for maneuver and for making false alliances with Thailand and Islamic countries, such as Pakistan, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other conservative Arab states.”



“It would also open doors for Chinese penetration of Latin America.”



“…more Soviet and Chinese interference could be expected in the affairs of neighbor states.”



“…it [Sino-Soviet rivalry] would not impede their Third World penetration.”



“If the Third World were to be divided into pro-Soviet and pro-Chinese camps, it would be at the expense of the interests of the United States and any other surviving conservative Western nations.”



“The final outcome of support for Chinese influence in the Third World would be the emergence of additional regimes there that would be hostile to the West.”



“A Soviet-socialist European coalition, acting in concert with the nonaligned movement in the United Nations, would create favorable conditions for communist strategy on disarmament.”



“The American military-industrial complex would come under heavy fire.”



“ “Liberalization” in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe would provide additional stimulus to disarmament.”



“A massive U.S. defense might be found no longer justified.”



“The argument for accommodation would be strengthened.”



“Even China might throw in its weight in favor of a Soviet-socialist line on arms control and disarmament.”



“After successful use of the scissor strategy in the early stages of the final phase of policy to assist communist strategy in Europe and the Third World and over disarmament, a Sino-Soviet reconciliation could be expected.”



“European-backed Soviet influence and American-backed Chinese influence could lead to new Third World acquisitions at an accelerating pace.”



“Before long, the communist strategists might be persuaded that the balance had swung irreversibly in their favor.”



“The scissors strategy would give way to the strategy of “one clenched fist”.



“At that point, the shift in the political and military balance would be plain for all to see.”



“Convergence would not between two equal parties, but would be on terms dictated by the communist bloc.”



“The argument for accommodation with the overwhelming strength of communism would be virtually unanswerable.”



“Pressures would build up for changes in the American political and economic system on the lines indicated in Sakharov’s treatise.”



“Traditional conservatives would be isolated and driven toward extremism.”



“The Soviet dissidents who are now extolled as heroes of the resistance to Soviet communism would play an active part in arguing for convergence.”



“Their present supporters would be confronted with a choice of forsaking thier idols or acknowledging the legitimacy of the new Soviet regime.”


59 posted on 08/23/2006 10:01:42 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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