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Posted on 08/05/2006 3:42:30 PM PDT by GMMAC
Candid words, evil goals from Iran
EDITORIAL:
The Edmonton Journal
Saturday, August 05, 2006
On Thursday, for those who could hear him above din of exploding bombs and rockets in the Middle East, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad did his hated Israeli enemy a major strategic favour.
He said that while he now thinks a ceasefire is a good idea, the ultimate goal remains the "elimination of the Zionist regime."
And thus he reminded a world tempted to see little difference between the warring parties about the fundamental difference between the Jewish state and those on the Arab and Muslim side who refuse to give up their violent struggle.
For men like Ahmadinejad and his Lebanese proxy Hassan Nasrallah of Hezbollah, peace is a tactical interlude in a war that won't end while Israel exists, while to Israeli leaders, war is a tactic viewed as occasionally unavoidable on the long road to peace with its neighbours.
It's true: at least in the short run, Israel's response to the original Hezbollah and Hamas attacks is clearly blasting both Israel's reputation and its prospects for better relations with Lebanon.
It is a key part of the Mideast mess that both sides only know how to put themselves farther and farther from their goals.
But in the long term? As long as anti-Westerners like Iran's Ahmadinejad keep reminding us that their real goal is not simply the evacuation of southern Lebanon that occurred in 2000, for example, or the cessation of settlement activity in places such as Hebron, they will never seize the moral high ground -- or even get on even terms -- in the court of international public opinion.
This weekend there is talk of ceasefires, and even of hope that the eventual ceasefire will destroy the political arrangement that has allowed Hezbollah terrorists to run a state within a state in south Lebanon, and amass the thousands of rockets it has been firing at Israel in recent days.
But the most hopeful element is the talk of an international role in preventing a repetition of the current horrors -- perhaps with a UN force to make sure the borderland is not controlled by terrorists who share the Iranian president's view of Israel's right to exist.
For most of the 58 years since Israel was established in 1948, assorted wars and uprisings against the Jewish state have succeeded only in making Israel larger, stronger, angrier and more skeptical of peace processes. And yet that long process of (mostly) self-defence has not brought Israel closer to its goal either. A chilly peace with Egypt and Jordan is offset by a Palestinian population willing to elect the terrorist group Hamas (who sparked the current fighting), by groups like Hezbollah that didn't exist 30 years ago, and by increasingly threatening, would-be nuclear neighbours like Iran.
If you think the parties should work out their differences by themselves, it's worth setting aside one's doubts about the severity of attacks in recent days, and asking what a more effective response by Israel would have looked like.
What would induce Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah to tell his followers not to fire rockets or kidnap Israeli soldiers?
What Israeli response would dissuade regimes in the region such as Iran from sending money and weapons to anti-Israeli proxies?
And what can Israel do, for that matter, to make weapons from various foreign sources not available for sale to terrorists on her borders?
It would be far from a pleasant or secure task for UN troops, getting in between bitter enemies who have caused at least 1,000 deaths in the last three weeks.
But it's becoming increasingly difficult to picture the parties ever reaching a mutually acceptable, live-and-let-live accommodation on their own.
© The Edmonton Journal 2006
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"He said that while he now thinks a ceasefire is a good idea, the ultimate goal remains the "elimination of the Zionist regime." "
Yeah, he needs to regroup so that he can accomplish his goal of the "elimination of the Zionist regime." There has been enough distraction to this war between Israel and this terrorist group ... he needs to focus all his resources on NUCLEAR BOMBS to accomplish his goal. Bet there has been so disruption in his uranium supplies ... .
"He said that while he now thinks a ceasefire is a good idea, the ultimate goal remains the "elimination of the Zionist regime." "
Yeah, he needs to regroup so that he can accomplish his goal of the "elimination of the Zionist regime." There has been enough distraction to this war between Israel and this terrorist group ... he needs to focus all his resources on NUCLEAR BOMBS to accomplish his goal. Bet there has been some disruption in his uranium supplies ... .
(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)
LOL!
Ghostly Shadows - How bloody-minded are the tyrants of Tehran
Hezbollah Rocket Hits Israeli Hospital, Nasrallah Apologizes
A Hezbollah rocket has hit an Israeli Hospital in Naharya. Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah apologized for the lengthy delay in targeting the sick and lame.
“We were sitting around discussing our strategy for eliminating the Jewish occupation of Palestine when Ahmed pointed out that we had overlooked a key weak point in the Israeli state,” said Nasrallah. “We have always made it a point to target women and children. That’s a basic ‘no brainer.’ But we had overlooked the potential advantages of attacking the sick and lame.”
Nasrallah pointed out that “Children may run away from an attack. Bed-ridden invalids are ‘sitting ducks.’ We looked at each other and laughed at our idiocy. Now, we have remedied this shortcoming and can be proud again. We’re just sorry it took so long for us to recognize this opportunity.”
“Even if they are not killed by our missiles, the patients will still have to be moved,” Nasrallah observed. “They may die in the process. At the very least, Israeli resources will be tied down dealing with this problem.”
In related news, the Syrian government has called for international celebrities to act as “human shields” in Lebanon. The idea is that, since the Israelis fear negative publicity, they are not likely to target them. The famous personalities will be able to guarantee the aid consignments get through to the Hezbollah “freedom fighters.” “We are hoping that former US president Jimmy Carter, Michael Moore, the ‘Dixie Chicks’ and others would be willing to drive trucks bringing desperately needed supplies into Lebanon,” said a spokesman for the Syrian government. “The Israelis would be forced to ceasefire lest they harm these beloved icons of the infidel culture.”
read more..
http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
“We are hoping that former US president Jimmy Carter, Michael Moore, the ‘Dixie Chicks’ and others would be willing to drive trucks bringing desperately needed supplies into Lebanon,” said a spokesman for the Syrian government.
Ok, if the Syrians bring them in, what's the down side to having this motley crew used as human shields? /sarc
Syria should insist Katie Couric be involved in such a humanitarian effort ;)
Nothing. The only cure for a mad dog is a bullet.
They still don't get it, do they? This is like the Dems trying to repackage themselves to appeal to red state voters. It doesn't work because the underlying values (or lack thereof) do not change.
Iran under Ahmadinejad cannot possibly seize the moral high ground. He cannot possibly occupy such because he has no morals. As long as wavering idiots like whoever wrote this column pretend that such is possible, they will continue to be duped by the Islamists.
What's all this August 22nd talk, anyway?
Genghis Khan recognized that warfare was not a sporting contest or a mere match between rivals; it was a total commitment of one people against another. Victory did not come to the one who played by the rules; it came to the one who made the rules and imposed them on his enemy. Triumph could not be partial. It was complete, total, and undeniable--or it was nothing. In battle, this meant the unbridled use of terror and surprise. In peace, it meant the steadfast adherence to a few basic but unwavering principles that created loyalty among the common people. Resistance would be met with death, loyalty with security.
Zec 12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
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I believe this would significantly improve our strategic position in the War on Terror.
We should destroy the Iranian oil industry. By Bombing all oil transportation facilities, pipelines, storage tanks, tanker trucks, rolling stock, refinery’s etc… we can cripple the funding of numerous terrorist organizations, Hezbollah, Hama’s, Sadr’s militia, Syria, as well as make it more difficult for Iran to buy missiles and such from North Korea, China, and Russia.
It would remove Iran’s threat that if we attack they will shut off the oil. Making the threat ridiculous and demonstrating that they are a single product state and without oil, and no other product that the world wants, they are nothing. Additionally, by declaring that we will destroy any reconstituting oil industry as long as the Mullacracy remains in charge, we can focus the Iranian’s blame for the situation, on the Theocracy and their support of Terrorism.
This will also bring home to all the other oil producing countries like Venezuela, Libya, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, etc… that they are very vulnerable to the same tactic.
In addition, this will gain us time for the Iraqi’s to stand on their own, and free up troops we would need if we have to go into Iran, North Korea or somewhere else.
Sure the price of gas will rise, but this will also demonstrate to the world that the USA is not in Iraq for the Oil, and the onus can be shifted on to the Democrats for not allowing more domestic production.
“It’s not the control of the spice but the power to destroy the spice that is the real power.”
It has recently been said that the nuclear production facilities in Iran are so deep underground that we can’t reach them with conventional weapons. Perhaps so, but maybe we can starve those facilities of funds. Nuclear weapons are terribly expensive to build, and if Iran now needs all its money to repair vital life supporting infrastructure, it may have to slow or stop its attempt to build an atomic bomb.
Finally, Iran is a state sponsor of Terrorists, it must be punished, and it must be seen to be punished. Iran’s continued sponsorship of terror is a slap in America’s and President Bush’s face, and it must be answered.
The following was written in response to an objection I received about having to pay more for fuel if this strategy was followed.
I think you are overly concerned about the economic considerations, and not concerned enough about the need to prosecute the War on Terror to the utmost.
1. The US has a full Strategic Petroleum Reserve of 700 million Barrels, and we aren't the only nation with an SPR. What good is it if you never use it? The average price paid on that 700 million barrels was $27, so the nation would actually make a profit selling it now.
2. The only reason the US isn't energy independent now is because of political factors. 2 Trillion Barrels of oil in oil shale (see www.oiltechinc.com). Any organic matter can be turned into fuel (see www.powerenergy.com). The US would and should be using much more Nuclear power if it wasn't for the Ecofreaks. There are also many areas in the US that are now off limits to drilling. All it takes is the political will to develop all of these. Higher fuel prices will provide that political pressure.
3. Iran is using diplomatic processes, just like the Nazi's before them. Talking is a waste of our time.
4. Iran subsidizes gas at $.10 a gallon, so by destroying the Iranian oil industry not only do we instantly remove 20% of their GDP. We put them all on foot, and in the dark.
5. The mullahs want to take their world back to the 7th century, we should assist them.
Iran exports 2.5 million barrels of oil a day, Iranian as well as the rest of the Persian gulf oil producers, produce what is called heavy sour crude which typically sell for 20%-25% less than the benchmark sweet light crude quoted on the spot markets. So, with that understanding we can roughly calculate the gross income Iran’s economy generates from oil exports. At a price of $75 Barrel Iran will get 80% of that price for its low grade crude, or $60. $60 x $2.5 million barrels x 365 days = $54.75 billion. Now from the CIA world fact book we can see that Iran has a GNP of $564 billion. So by destroying Iran’s oil industry their GDP is cut by 10% just from the lost of exports, but the damage is much deeper than that. Iran subsidizes gasoline at $.10 a gallon and Iran consumes 1.425 million barrels of oil a day. With the oil industry destroyed the cars, trucks, trains, and power plants no longer run. That means no machinery, no electricity, and no modern economy. I can’t estimate what Iran’s GDP would decline to, but the poorest nation on earth still has cars and electricity. I think much of the population would either revolt or start walking for the boarders. They couldn’t import oil because we would destroy tankers, pipelines, and rolling stock.
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