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1 posted on 08/01/2006 4:54:48 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972
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A powerful and interesting proposition.


2 posted on 08/01/2006 4:59:53 PM PDT by Lacroix
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I don't have a military background nor can I fight but I do understand your feelings about wanting this thing won once and for all.


3 posted on 08/01/2006 5:04:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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Whoa big fella.... If the State Department/DoD says "any volunteers?" I'm all in. If its me going direct to a foreign nation to volunteer while still under the current oath of office, thats called at least AWOL if not worse.

I certainly understand your frustration. I've worked with the Izzies, flown with them (and flown some of their aircraft) sat and had dinner with some of the men currently flying the F-16I Sufa thats doing the precision targeting (media be damned) of the rocket tubes. They are the best, even better than us USAF guys. I don't know that we could help out much, truth be told.

Volunteer to help, yes. Go against my oath or out of my chain of command, no....


4 posted on 08/01/2006 5:04:40 PM PDT by church16 (“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence...")
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I have lost faith in the US public to understand the battle we are currently fighting.

I do not agree with that at all.

Have some faith.

Besides, what is more important right now.....

The US public understanding......or

The US President understanding.....'cuz he gets it.

5 posted on 08/01/2006 5:05:14 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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I think you would have to be fluent in Hebrew. I don't think the IDF communicates in other languages as a rule.


6 posted on 08/01/2006 5:05:35 PM PDT by Cecily
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I have lost faith in the US public

Stay clam.

7 posted on 08/01/2006 5:06:34 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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If it got down to brass tacks then I would. The Israeli Army seems to be getting the job done for right now.


8 posted on 08/01/2006 5:07:07 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (Borders. Language. Culture. AAA-0. Free Travis Mcgee.)
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go join the IDF?

great way to lose your American citizenship....


9 posted on 08/01/2006 5:08:05 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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I wish I could do something, but I am 56 years old. Aside from cheering from the side lines, any suggestions?


10 posted on 08/01/2006 5:09:19 PM PDT by AConnecticutYankee
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IBTZ


12 posted on 08/01/2006 5:11:44 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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I think it's clear most of us here support you and support Israel's struggle. We as a nation are fighting the same enemies, with our troops on the line too in various places, and have been for years although we aren't surrounded like you are.

I think at least one FReeper is actively serving with the IDF right now, but his name escapes me now. It's Thunder-something IDF.


14 posted on 08/01/2006 5:12:58 PM PDT by KJC1 ("Thank you for the Hezbollah view." (Tony Snow to Helen Thomas))
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I already wrote them to join up. They won't even call up their reserves over 45. My combat experience is over 35 years old. I offered them my prayers and they said that they would accept them gratefully.
18 posted on 08/01/2006 5:16:17 PM PDT by noname07718
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To the general posts here:

You may be assured my friends that I support Israel. I am a retired US military officer, 35+ years in uniform. I go to Israel and around there in the region every year; last year to Israel, Egypt and Jordan. Was in Amman on the first day of Ramadan in 2005, in Jerusalam two days later watching Jews and Palestinian Arab Muslims celebrate Passover and Ramadan, shoulder to shoulder, with their children, and not one problem even in the crowd such as I had never seen in Jerusalem. I am going back to Israel, and around, maybe to Egypt, Jordan again, Lebanon, Syria, possibly even Iraq, without much fear again this year from Sept-Nov. I support an Israeli doctoral student in underwater archaeology study, am financing the student and the student's project with personal funds, fundraising. I will do the same for a Palestinian Muslim if the occasion arises. If any wish to contribute to these efforts at peace, contact me at silveroyster41@aol.com


22 posted on 08/01/2006 5:22:07 PM PDT by silveroyster
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Been out of the Army since 1989 (36C10/31L10) 39 years old, smoker, gained some weight since my Army days and have a slight upper back/neck problem. There's no way I could be of any use to the IDF. I offer my prayers, however. I speak and read absolutely no Hebrew, either.


24 posted on 08/01/2006 5:24:18 PM PDT by PAMadMax (Islam is the enemy of all mankind...AlJazeera is its PR Firm)
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God will take care of Israel.


25 posted on 08/01/2006 5:25:04 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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No, thanks. While my sympathies lie strongly with Israel, I won't fight for another country. Further, I believe it is reckless and wrong to incite other American veterans to do so, particularly since you aren't telling folks that swearing allegiance to another country, wearing its uniform and fighting its wars under its flag, risks loss of American citizenship. As it should.

You wrote that you have "1 condition for Israel..."

Well, here's news, Soldier of Fortune: sovereign countries usually don't solicit the opinions of foreign busybodies, much less pay attention to their demands. They establish the conditions of enlistment, not you.
27 posted on 08/01/2006 5:26:51 PM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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Would if I could.

I served the US until I was physically incapable. I'd be honored to do the same for Eretz Israel.

Might be difficult to find a Baptist Chaplain over there though :)

34 posted on 08/01/2006 5:39:26 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Seventy-five days (counting up))
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hmmmm very interesting question. I have been admiring them over the past three weeks. They have admirable courage. I would, as another Freeper stated, seriously consider it if my country asked for our help as prior service SME's then heck yeah (boy would my hubby be pissed). I would like to work my craft with their people.


36 posted on 08/01/2006 5:41:23 PM PDT by interrogatorgirl
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"I have lost faith in the US public to understand the battle we are currently fighting. I do not think the majority of the US public understands the enemy we are facing."

I concur with this. At 54 with some physical problems my time has past, at least for Army style actions. The discussions reminds me of the Flying Tigers in action against the Japs prior to WWII. They did indeed make a difference. Perhaps it is time for a volunteer corps again. But only if a nation state has the will to fight. Or should the fight be under a religious banner and hang the nation state?
41 posted on 08/01/2006 5:56:15 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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Some more links for those who wish to help out in some way:

Twenty-Five Ways To Help Israel
http://www.25waystohelpisrael.com/pages/t1.asp?PID=1000

Shalom! Join Volunteers For Israel!
http://www.vfi-usa.org/



49 posted on 08/01/2006 6:16:33 PM PDT by Tancred
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