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‘South Park’ angers Bosnian Muslim leaders
AFP ^ | 08/01/2006

Posted on 08/01/2006 3:52:31 AM PDT by Panerai

Sarajevo • Bosnian Islamic leaders voiced anger yesterday after a local television station aired an episode of the popular US cartoon South Park depicting Prophet Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him).

“The broadcast (of the cartoon) is unacceptable and we condemn it and consider it to be a kind of provocation,” Enes Ljevakovic, head of a Bosnian Islamic council, said.

“According to Islamic tradition, the presentation of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) or any other prophet is unacceptable ... even if their presentation is not sarcastic but in positive light,” Ljevakovic said.

“The cartoon was even censored in the United States ... and that is what the local Bosnian television station should have done as well,” he added.

OBN defended its decision to air the show, saying the cartoon presented prophets in a positive light that could be considered as a lesson in morality.

Some 40 percent of Bosnia’s 3.8 million inhabitants are Muslims. Orthodox Christian Serbs represent about 31 percent, while Roman Catholic Croats account for around 10 per cent.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bosnia; cartoons; comedycentral; crushislam; durkadurkajihad; islam; muslims; religionofpeace; southpark
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To: Panerai
Prophet Mohammed (Peace Piss Be Upon Him).

There. I fixed it.

101 posted on 08/01/2006 7:54:08 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Panerai
The Bosnian Mooslims can always call their friend Slick!

Slick better leave the horn at home, Mooslims hate music too.

102 posted on 08/01/2006 7:55:19 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: mainepatsfan
They've had a couple of other episodes in the past where he wasn't censored. These were well before the cartoon issue in Denmark. One was 'Superbest Friends', I also believe 'Osama has Farty Pants' had a quick image of Moho..
103 posted on 08/01/2006 7:55:33 AM PDT by mnehring (Texas is no Joke! Perry 06)
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To: Schweinhund
Actually, on the Peak of the Moors empire, Jewish and Christian scholars were held in high regard by the Spanish rulers and managed to rediscover much lost knowledge from Rome and Greece. This intolerance is a rather new thing.

Hahahaha! You need to read Robert Spencer's Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades before you make yourself look even less informed about Islam's past.

104 posted on 08/01/2006 7:58:52 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Panerai

105 posted on 08/01/2006 8:00:27 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Panerai

It shouldn't have been censored here.


106 posted on 08/01/2006 8:03:19 AM PDT by kalee
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To: Schweinhund

Destroying history in South America was hardly comparable to the actions and oppression of the radical Islamists. Not forgetting the "civilizations" of the ruthless and murderous Incans, Aztecs and other bloodthirsty groups terrorizing their unfortunate citizens. Rewriting history or contorting it doesn't change it, by the way, what is the "Spanish Church"?


107 posted on 08/01/2006 8:05:11 AM PDT by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent!)
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To: Panerai

Ignignot says: "I hope you can see this, because I'm doing it as hard as I can."

108 posted on 08/01/2006 8:20:08 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Jameison
I prefer

"Prophet Mohammed (Police Be Upon Him)."

Evokes a nice mental image.

109 posted on 08/01/2006 8:22:07 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Vaquero

That's REALLY sad when you think about it.
They are joyous at American and Israeli deaths. The are hateful bigots (on a mission).


110 posted on 08/01/2006 8:29:46 AM PDT by Gimme
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To: Schweinhund
Yeah, at that time Catholizism only killed people against their will (heathens, witches, heretics) while human sacrifice in South America was mostly an honor and something to be earned for the 'sacrifices'.

If the human sacrifices were willing, why does the artwork depict people being held down with less than pleasant expressions on their faces? I strongly urge you to read Lawrence Keeley's book War Before Civilization where he provides examples of severe academic bias against viewing ancient cultures as violent or murderous.

But let's assume, for the sake of argument, that you are correct and those human sacrifices went willingly to their deaths. How does that make it acceptable? If one applies the logic that how the victim perceives their abuse determines whether it is good or bad, women who are abused by their husbands yet stay with them because they love them are not really being abused because the victim wants to be there, right? The shopkeeper who pays "protection" money to the Mafia and doesn't report it to the police isn't being extorted because he wants to pay the money, right?

And really, can you say that given the time, their religion wouldn't have evolved like Catholizism did?

I can't say with certainty but can say with some confidence that the cultures supported by those religious beliefs would never have evolved like Catholicism did because, at it's core, Christianity has a message of forgiveness and love while those religions, at their core, had a message of fatalism and death. Going back in the direction of the Moche was more likely.

Anyway, to deliberately blot out an entire culture is still a unique historical crime...dhimmitude looks rather fair compared to that.

During WW2, the allies did their best to blot out the entire culture of the Nazi Fascists (and it was, indeed, a distinct culture with it's own styles of art, literature, and so on). Do you shed a tear for the distruction of the Nazis and are you bothered by the fact that expressing certain elements of Nazi culture is actually illegal in Germany? Would the Nazis have been more acceptable if they convinced the Jews to march willingly to their death by telling them there was honor in it? Do you shed a tear for the loss of the Soviet culture, again with it's own distinctive artwork, music, and scientific achievements? Should we have endured millions of more deaths to keep those societies running in perpetuity rather than let them be blotted out?

I'm sorry but some cultures deserve to be blotted out. If you want to shed a tear over the loss of their art and literature that was destroyed rather than studied, you might have an argument. But the world is a better place without priests ripping the hearts out of people because they think it will make the Sun rise, just like the world is a better place without the Nazis.

I'm sorry but all cultures are not equal and are not worth preserving. And I'm afraid you are inflicted with the strange fetish for a static world that we also see in environmentalists. The world changes, whether Evil Europeans change it or not. The Moche rose and fell without a single European hand getting involved. So did the Olmecs and Mayan civilizations. And far from purposeful extermination, a lot of the distruction was done by European diseases, which weren't killing in the name of the Church.

111 posted on 08/01/2006 8:42:08 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: dfwgator
Re: My post #45

"Dirka, dirka, Muhammad Jihad!"

Thank you for that post. It is what I meant to write at the end of my post.

112 posted on 08/01/2006 8:51:05 AM PDT by I'mAllRightJack
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To: Panerai
“According to Islamic tradition, the presentation of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) or any other prophet is unacceptable ... even if their presentation is not sarcastic but in positive light,” Ljevakovic said.

Bullshiite. Er, uh, Bullsunni.

I've got a book on Mohammad by a Turkish Sunni/Sufi Muslim that reproduces literally dozens of paintings, from various historic periods, that show The Prophet . Granted that some of them have the face veiled or otherwise obscured, but many others show the face clearly. These can be found in museums in the Islamic world.

This "can't draw The Prophet" stuff is a blatant lie, at least insofar as being a universal Islamic prohibition. I'm constantly amazed at how much of the Western press have bought into this crap. In reality it's a pseudo rule to be used only against infidels and dhimmis, either as a means to intimidate them or an excuse to attack them.

113 posted on 08/01/2006 9:26:48 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Schweinhund

You have missed a great deal of history, the Spanish Church learned its cruelity from the Towelist Moose-limbs. Dolt!


114 posted on 08/01/2006 9:30:53 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: Panerai

While I don't totally agree with Schweinhund, I agree with his general point. Throughout the dark ages Christianity was used as a tool for oppression. The fact that it was Christianity is inconsequential; it could have been any religion. The crusades were largely a chance for the Pope and the Kings and Princes of the day to export their domestic political problems (i.e. poor people--sound like modern Mexico anyone?) to a far away land while they maintained despotic contol over their Principalities. Few of the population could read latin, and since the bible only existed in latin, few knew anything about Christianity. This left those in charge to twist Christianity to their pervierse advantage.

This situation has important paralelles with today's Islam. Religious fevor is used in the Arab world today as a cover for domestic problems: Pissed off about being poor?--blame the Jews and Americans (not the dictators and Imams who are using the nations oil money to bolster their regimes instead of economic reform)! Europes imagration problems (e.g. Algerians in France, Pakistanis in G.B.)can be seen as a reverse crusade in that they are the exportation of Arab domestic problems to Europe. While it is true that most Muslims can read Arabic and the Koran is accessible to them, it must be remembered that the madrassas are essentially brainwashing institutions. Young muslims can read their holy book, yes; but a Jihadic, radical interpretation has been so cemented into their head that they can see no other interpretation.

Which brings me to my point. What saved Christianity was Martin Luther. It is important to keep in mind that Martin Luther did two things: first he of course founded the protestant church but secondly, the sucess of protestantism cause the catholic chuch to make major reforms as well--they had to do so to compete with the protestants. I think, therefore, that what the Arab world needs is their own Martin Luther. It has to be an Arab. It can't be done by us. They won't listen to us. They never will.

So what do we do? Well what we are doing now is good; people learn by experience. It can only help for Arabs to see that radical Islam is a path to death and destruction. It will make some Muslims reconsider things. Perhaps one will be a Martin Luther (remember Luther started as a Catholic priest). We also need to find other ways to make the situation worse. Reducing our dependancy on oil I think is the easiest and most obvious way to do this. (I say this for with out any concern for environmental matters.) In the short term this means drill in ANWAR. The lager goal, however, is hydrogen fuel cells, nuclear, wind, microwave power plants and the like. Where do you think the money comes for Iran's nuclear program, for the rockets being shot at Israel? Money is the only thing peventing total Arab collapse. Every society has a breaking point. We should help the Arabs get their. When their society and culture is in ruins, someone will see where radical Islam has gotten them and how infinately worse off they are now than 50 years ago. Hopefully this someone will have the courage to be the Muslim Luther.


*Note: I acknowledge certain key differences in Islam and Christianity doctrinally that make reform much more difficult for Islam than Christianity. My point, however, has nothing to do with theology, but rather how politics use religion for their own gain. When leaders do this, it matters little what the religion actually says; politicians, judges, clergy-men and executives can make words mean whatever they want them to mean and the masses will eat it up.


115 posted on 08/01/2006 9:50:02 AM PDT by Stag_Man (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors --- and miss. - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Panerai

I'm guessing this is the Super Best Friends epdisode from years back where Jesus, Mohammad, Buddah and others team up to save the world.


116 posted on 08/01/2006 9:51:51 AM PDT by rwilson99 (R) South Park)
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To: Sir Gawain
I was referring to the cartoon the Danish newspaper printed.
117 posted on 08/01/2006 10:00:46 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Panerai

Good! Anything that maked the followers of the pervert angry can't be all bad.

As another Freeper posted: There is no whore like allah and mohammad is her pimp.


118 posted on 08/01/2006 10:03:56 AM PDT by sport (cognizes)
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To: Schweinhund
at least Islamism didn't yet destroy the history of a whole continent

Pigdog, Islam destroys everything in its path. Look at the middle east, there used to be some of the world's most advanced societies there. Now they're gone and replaced with a stagnant ass-backwards culture.

Additionally, the Spaniards didn't exterminate the natives. The Arabs on the other hand killed almost everyone they could.
119 posted on 08/01/2006 10:05:45 AM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Post #3 was in regards to The birthplace of Lawrence Welk being an example of money better spent than on a replica of a ship the British Navy let rot away in some swamp.
Care to try again and see if you come up with the right post?
120 posted on 08/01/2006 10:07:25 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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