Army dismisses gay soldier 'outed' by e-mail

AP ^ | 7/27/6 | DUNCAN MANSFIELD

[Little Bill]

= ain't =, most Solders and Marines do not believe that your Ilk contribute to unit cohesiveness. Most Solderers and Marines think that you should be Chaplin's Assistants and therefore a liability to the unit.

[Mazda3Fan]

Then let's be sure to go after those husbands and wives who have oral and anal sex.

[Mazda3Fan]

Recruit? You're absolutely right. A gay guy could get me to become gay just by recruiting. /sarcasm off

[whatisthetruth]

Opportunistic sex for straights from gays is not new. Get a clue!!!

[Lucky Dog]

Then let's be sure to go after those husbands and wives who have oral and anal sex.

First, unless they are doing it public, the military has no way of knowing. If they are doing it in public, then there are other sections of the UCMJ that become operative. Second, assuming they are not doing it in public, there are no witnesses and no case. Even if a spouse decides to turn state’s evidence and accuse the other, there is no independent corroboration and, thus, no case. To my knowledge, there has never been a case brought against a military member purely for private, consensual sexual intercourse with a spouse.

[Mazda3Fan]

Get a clue about what? That gays are recruiting straights? Give me a break.

[Mazda3Fan]

So why the concern about gays? Gays in the military are serving their country.

[Mazda3Fan]

Then they aren't straight, are they?

[Mazda3Fan]

"First, unless they are doing it public, the military has no way of knowing." Then lets just keep the gay sex a secret and everything is hunky dory.

[Lucky Dog]

So why the concern about gays? Gays in the military are serving their country.

You need to read the rest of the posts on this thread. Perhaps you missed the part about blood borne pathogens... or the part about violating the UCMJ and their oaths to support and defend the Constitution of the US... or the part about being subject to blackmail... or the part about lacking the discipline to follow standing orders and regulations...

[Mazda3Fan]

Blackmail? Blood borne pathogens? You're right, no straight person could ever be subject to that.

[Mazda3Fan]

Also, they did swear an oath and are defending the Constitution of the United States. I'm just saying, let's not worry just about the gays, let's get those straight people who participate in "unnatural" sex as well. Or is this not about the sex acts but about the person just being gay.

[FloridianBushFan]

Excuse you, What are you saying just because I served on a ship. That I nor the millions of other sailors believe in order and discipline. I would you to see you last six months on a ship. People of all military branches serve their country honorably no matter who they are.

[Lucky Dog]

Then lets just keep the gay sex a secret and everything is hunky dory.

That is, I believe, known as "staying in the closet." Unfortunately, from a security risk perspective, queers are neither content to confine themselves to a single, or even a few partners, nor able to be discreet about their activities. Consequently, these people are still subject to blackmail.

Furthermore, as a generality, unlike the example you cited earlier with a spouse, few queers have any loyalty to the partner in the activity. If such were the case, then there would be very little problem with queers being "outed," would there?

Finally, there is still the problem of the queer disease risk. Blood borne pathogens are a very real threat in a battlefield environment. There is enough threat from enemy action without adding to it with preventable sources.

[truth_seeker]

"For such a small portion of the population, these deviants sure command a disproportionate slice of the news pie."

Fully agreed.

You can be sure: every day on FR will feature posts and reposts of all available gay/homosexual stories in the news.

[Jacquerie]

Yeah, and just a few years prior to that the military kept the blacks in the kitchen was regular practice too...la

So you are saying that blacks = homos?

[Retired Army Special Forces]

Whatever, you posts and pro-gay stance says otherwise. Classic of the KOS and DU seminar posters.

Get a clue - Conservative Republicans by and large do NOT support anything past DADT in the military! And that comes from one who served in various combat arms units.

The vast majority of the few who are in the military or served and push the homosexual agenda were NOT in Combat Arms units.

[Lucky Dog]

Blackmail? Blood borne pathogens? You're right, no straight person could ever be subject to that.

I could drag out the statistics here and show you that the overwhelming number of HIV/AIDS cases in this country are among queers, those who traffic with them as bisexuals, and share drug needles. I could also use these same sources to point out that the same group suffers disproportionately from hepatitis, syphilis, and other STDs.

However, suffice it to say that the blood borne pathogen risk is, for the most part, greatly ameliorated by just barring queers from the armed service. Therefore, the question becomes why should we not do so?

[TheGunny]

People of all military branches serve their country honorably no matter who they are.

Easy there shipmate! I wasnt impugning the level of honor of which you served. Im just saying that discipline to me and my brethren of the Marines is in fact a world apart from that which you prescribe to.

[Lucky Dog]

Also, they did swear an oath and are defending the Constitution of the United States.

You are absolutely correct. So why not pursue them and punish them for violating their oath?

I'm just saying, let's not worry just about the gays, let's get those straight people who participate in "unnatural" sex as well.

Ok with me…

Or is this not about the sex acts but about the person just being gay.

I really do not care who it is violating the UCMJ. If they’re caught, then let the system work. I tired of all the whining that queers are victims because they don’t want to follow the UCMJ.

Military service is a privilege, not a right. If the queers do not want to play by the UCMJ, then they don’t have to join. I they do join and are caught engaging in homosexual activities, they have no right to complain, nor does anyone else on their behalf. It is just that simple.