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Broken Borders: Broken Promises (Simcox-Minuteman)
ABC 15 Investigators ^ | 4/27/2006 | Staff

Posted on 07/07/2006 8:58:04 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

Americans are donating thousands of dollars to support Minutemen patrolling the border. But you may be surprised where your money is NOT going in this 4-month investigation.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; corruption; culturekillers; deception; disinformation; fraud; hitpiece; immigrantlist; immigration; lies; mcdc; minuteman; minutemen; moonbatoblers; murthatheminutemen; obljudas; ohplease; openborderliars; propaganda; simcox; wherestheposse
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To: nopardons

::bows::

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1,621 posted on 07/11/2006 7:29:50 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: EternalVigilance
Press release from MMDC HQ Today. Check out paragraph 2.
Minuteman Border Fence
Planning is Completed
Ready to Start Second Site
6501 Greenway Parkway Suite 103-640 Scottsdale, AZ 85254 :: Phone (520) 829-3112

An Update from the Minuteman Fence Project Manager

Chris Simcox has kept his promise and volunteers have begun building the Minuteman Border Fence. Chris has asked me (Peter Kunz) to give you a quick update on the activities and planning for the current fence project and our next site that starts in July.

People in opposition to the fence who are not part of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps have been talking to each other in emails and on the radio—and we have a case of the blind leading the blind. No one has called the Project Manager to get the facts, which follow.

First, let me say thanks to the brave ranchers who are stepping up to put their lives on the line to stop the illegal invasion. They live and work within spitting distance of the Mexican border every day. These brave men and women are working side by side with Minutemen in this war zone they call home, allowing us to secure America.

Second, let’s be clear. Not every single mile of the border or every ranch or rancher is the same. The full-on Israeli-style Security Fence is our primary design and first choice for construction. However, when circumstances dictate adjustment to a Border Fence with barbed wire and a vehicle barrier or another design to meet local requirements, we will make the necessary adaptations—and keep building.

Our plan: Do the job until our government does its duty.

  • Announce the need for the Minuteman Border Fence.
  • Ask again that President Bush do his duty and secure the border.
  • Schedule a groundbreaking to get the Border Fence launched.
  • Begin raising the $55 million needed for 70 miles of fence in AZ.
  • Work with ranchers to design fence to meet specific private landsite requirements.
  • Get steel and contractors to manage the sites.
  • Register and vet fencing volunteers.
  • Build a Minuteman Fence Security Plan to patrol fencing.
  • Set up Volunteer Crews administration and crew management
  • Continue to build fence as fast as resources allow.
  • Start more sites in TX, CA and NM as donations and volunteer capacity permit.
  • Continue Border Watch and Fence Operations until the border is secure.

The Facts:

A Comprehensive Design

Numerous fence design variations will be required to effectively deal with border crossings by illegal aliens, drug dealers and livestock. Derivation from the primary design is necessary to accommodate local ranchers’ specific terrain, topography, herds and other factors.

The important point to remember is that MCDC will not let Vincente Fox tell us or the US ranchers we are working with where or what we can build. No matter what the fence design, MCDC will erect a well-built fence—and fences work. We know they are effective, because we see the results; incursions reduced, and all of the opposition groups and open border supporters screaming to stop the fence.

1)Security Fence - Illegal alien crossing design – A physical barrier capable of stopping people and vehicles has been designed to fit the general terrain. It is also a daunting psychological deterrent that cuts illegal crossings by 95% or more. The security fence will not be easy to compromise by climbing over with a ladder, cannot be cut with wire cutters, breached by ramming with a vehicle, or tunneling under undetected. While no fence can be a 100% impenetrable barrier—the Minuteman Border Fence is an excellent design and will prove time-consuming enough that Border Patrol agents can be alerted and respond before the incursion can be completed.

Our fence plan will keep costs near $150 per foot.

2)Border Fence – Halting drug dealers, illegal aliens and livestock – This style of fence is necessary where full Security Fencing cannot be installed. A physical barrier with a 5 wire barbed wire fence 5' 6" high, a vehicle barrier with a horizontal steel barrier in 12’ sections welded to steel post 30” high and razor wire on the ground between the wire fence and the vehicle barrier. This barrier will stop vehicles and cattle and slow down illegal aliens.

This design similar to Border Patrol designs is intended to accomplish the following: Mexican drugs are coming across the border in vehicles and on the backs of mules. The steel barrier stops drug vehicles and is high enough to stop mules from walking over and low enough to keep them from going under. The barbed wire fence keeps Mexican livestock in Mexico. Thousands of diseased Mexican cattle are presently allowed to walk freely into the US unchecked, and MCDC is working with our ranchers to stop the spread of disease. This design is cheaper and faster to erect where urgent conditions warrant, especially in cases of diseased cattle incursions.

Schedule Facts:

April 20, 2006 – Chris Simcox announces the Minuteman Border Fence is to be built if President Bush does not send armed troops to secure the US – Mexico border by Memorial Day 2006.

May 27, 2006 - Successful groundbreaking was held in Arizona on Memorial Day weekend. First 2.5 miles of 10 miles of Border Fence erected. Continue fence fundraising through direct mail, email, national radio affiliates and national speaking tours.

May 27 to June 30 – Finished the first 2.5 mi. section of fence, applied for permission on next 7.5 mi., repaired vandalized fence, ordered steel, finalized fence design/civil engineering specifications, retained 2 local Arizona contractors who hire legally, started vetting volunteers for work crews, completed volunteer delivery of donated construction truck, continue next 7.5 mi., acquire vehicle barrier steel, install vehicle barrier, test/install fence camera technology, plan and implement 24x7 fence security.

June 27 - Second site layout to be finished.

July 6-15 – Security Fence at second location starts.

Peter Kunz
Project Manager
MinutemanHQ.com
Minuteman Border Fence

MINUTEMEN CONTINUE BUILDING BORDER FENCE

A Successful Start on a Security Fence

The successful groundbreaking was held in Arizona on Memorial Day weekend, as President Bush refused to immediately deploy National Guard and reserve troops to secure America’s out-of-control southern border with Mexico.

Hundreds of volunteers—along with Minuteman Founder Chris Simcox, Ambassador Alan Keyes, Congressman Steve King, AZ gubernatorial candidate Don Goldwater, WeNeedAFence.com founder Colin Hanna and AZ Congressional candidate Randy Graf—dug holes, mixed concrete, put up fencing while opposition groups jeered and skeptics said it could not be done. Now MCDC continues with dedicated volunteers, engineers and contractors using LEGAL crews to work with local Arizona land owners in building mile after mile of border security fencing on private land along the border with Mexico. The first site is 10 miles long and the first 2.5 miles of Minuteman Border Fence already has been completed.

How can You Help?

Build the Minuteman Border Fence by sending donations and volunteering to participate in making the US border secure.

Donate to Build the Minuteman Border Fence
https://secure.responseenterpries.com/mmfence/?a=571

VOLUNTEER to Build the Minuteman Border Fence
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/mmfence/registration.php/?a=571

Sign up as a volunteer and get access to the “Minutemen Border Cams” an active web based surveillance link on the fencing project. The Minuteman Border Fence is placing cameras which will be monitored via computer over the Internet by registered Minutemen across the country, so that Minuteman volunteers can observe and report illegal crossings from the computer in their living rooms 24/7.

The Border Fence is already making a difference.

Local reports indicate that drug and human trafficking has already been reduced. There are fewer vehicles in the area where the fence is under construction—proving again that having a presence and taking positive steps to do SOMETHING to secure the border reduces the flow of illegal aliens, potential terrorists, drug and human traffickers, murderers, rapists and thieves in these areas.

More than 1,500 have volunteered to build the fence.

Planning and organization continues as volunteers, materials and contractors are being coordinated in an unprecedented alliance with over 1,500 Minuteman Border Fence volunteers. In the true spirit of the Minutemen of the American Revolution these patriots have joined together to form an army of volunteers to secure our borders and protect America’s sovereignty, security and prosperity.

“The undertaking is monumental and historic” says Chris Simcox.

MCDC is beginning construction of the Israeli-style border security fence at a second ranch location in early July and later throughout the year in TX, CA and NM as more resources are marshaled. Two fencing companies that hire legally have been retained to run the jobs sites and coordinate volunteer construction crews as Minutemen volunteers are scheduled to provide labor and security. Crews of four to ten volunteers under the guidance of professional fence installers can install as much as 3 miles of fence in a week.

The nay-sayers are wrong. The reality is the Minutemen are here to stay, and this mission will be completed. In April of 2005, over 800 volunteer men and women took action to secure the border. This year there are more than 200,000 Minuteman Civil Defense Corps activists not only guarding the border but building fence, faxing our elected representatives, making phone calls, voting open border politicians out of office, starting local chapters and contributing their time, money and expertise. MCDC is an explosive grassroots effort enjoying the energetic support of political Democrats, Republicans and Independents—all American patriots who have earned the trust of the public by keeping our word to remain vigilant until our borders are secure.

The fencing will be built on private land with privately donated funds, engineering and labor. Its construction at every step will serve as an example to educate the public about the feasibility and efficacy of fencing to secure America’s borders from illegal invasion by aliens and international criminal cartels. An IRS-authorized charitable non-profit organization is facilitating, administering and reporting tax-deductible donations specifically and solely for construction of this Minuteman Border Fence project. Monetary and in-kind contributions for this effort will go directly into meeting hard costs such as building materials for this private fencing operation.

We have a monumental challenge ahead to raise $55 million. We urgently need your help for this effort to succeed. With your help MCDC can make America more secure by continuing to urge citizen volunteers to support the Minuteman Border Fence.

Be sure to send this to EVERYONE you know who wants to help STOP illegal aliens at the border! Thank you!

Donate to Build the Minuteman Border Fence
https://secure.responseenterpries.com/mmfence/?a=571

VOLUNTEER to Build the Minuteman Border Fence
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/mmfence/registration.php/?a=571

Go www.minutemanborderfence.com and join with us TODAY .

Sincerely for America,

Chris Simcox, President
Minuteman Civil Defense Corps

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Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, Inc.
6501 Greenway Parkway
Suite 103-640
Scottsdale, AZ 85254
(520) 829-3112
http://www.minutemanhq.com


1,622 posted on 07/11/2006 7:30:27 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: EternalVigilance
You've made that phony accusation (i.e. LIE) before.

Cut it out.

The group of people that you despise here ARE the conservatives. They love this country, and they respect what it stands for.

I no longer think that you do.

I am as conservative as conservatives get, and I don't want any more to do with you. One of the most important aspects of being a conservative is having integrity.

Dishonesty is incongruous with a person of character, EV. I'm beginning to believe I understand why you have such a problem with President Bush.

He is an honest man.

1,623 posted on 07/11/2006 7:31:42 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio
That's okay, nobody need care on whit, nor see reposted, the slander and libel and baitings and flames scurrilously posted against them; once was more than enough.
1,624 posted on 07/11/2006 7:32:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
I doubt he's being paid to post his opinion. No offense to EV but I doubt anyone would pay him to make the comments he does.
On the other hand, the posts made to him look like stalking by people with an agenda. It's very ugly.

I need to head to bed so if you reply I wlll not see it until the morning.

1,625 posted on 07/11/2006 7:32:53 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: nopardons

Yes you are undoubtedly correct about that.

But I love how my Iraq time continually gets brought up :)


1,626 posted on 07/11/2006 7:33:01 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: nopardons

Well it is getting tiresome. As soon as certain people realize that rino cannot be applied to every Republican that doesn't falls down rolls over and plays dead on command when this supposed "base" says so the better. I think they finally overplayed it with Pence and I think that woke people up. Maybe we can then get back to defeating the people that want to kill us


1,627 posted on 07/11/2006 7:33:18 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (FBI Fraud Division( 202) 514-7023)
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To: Amelia
You're saying it's because people would twist what you're saying, but your refusal to answer looks awfully bad. Surely you have some evidence to show you're correct?

I have no reason to try and prove a negative. You and your friends have offered up no proof whatsoever, in all of these hundreds of posts, of any kind of inappropriate action by Simcox.

And all of your personal attacks on me, most sourced at the worst of the antifreeper sites, or from someone's fertile mind, have been of no substance whatsoever.

1,628 posted on 07/11/2006 7:34:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: JeanS
On the other hand, the posts made to him look like stalking by people with an agenda. It's very ugly.

No the posts are about the revelation that he has a PERSONAL financial interest in this debate that he has not divulged before this. EV is a stalking horse for Chris Simcox.

1,629 posted on 07/11/2006 7:36:18 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: MikefromOhio

I've been watching this thread from its inception this weekend.

He has not offered a SINGLE answers to anything. He's called a lot of people a lot of things...but not one answer.

IMO, EV is not here to debate the issues of the day in good faith. He is here to influence and/or intimidate.


1,630 posted on 07/11/2006 7:36:38 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: catholicfreeper; nopardons
Maybe we can then get back to defeating the people that want to kill us

You've hit on a critical point here, cf.

All this Bush hatred and immigration obsession with its attacks on solid conservatives is diverting us from the REAL enemy...........the terrorists, and the leftists who pander to them.

THAT is why I believe this invasion of FR is supported and perhaps even coordinated by the RATS.

What has been going on here is NOT the work of conservatives. It is evil.

1,631 posted on 07/11/2006 7:37:21 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Howlin

Well, I'll do my part as long as I'm breathing.


1,632 posted on 07/11/2006 7:37:36 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: sinkspur

LOL!


1,633 posted on 07/11/2006 7:37:55 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: JeanS
On the other hand, the posts made to him look like stalking by people with an agenda. It's very ugly.

Finally, a voice of reason, common sense and decency enters the scene...

1,634 posted on 07/11/2006 7:38:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: pollyannaish
IMO, EV is not here to debate the issues of the day in good faith. He is here to influence and/or intimidate.

You hit the nail on the head.
1,635 posted on 07/11/2006 7:39:10 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: axes_of_weezles

I'm telling you right here and now you're in over your head on this thread, pal.


1,636 posted on 07/11/2006 7:39:34 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: EternalVigilance

I will ask you, for the second time, if the MCDC and the MMP are tax exempt organizations? If not, why are they soliciting funds as if they were 501(c)4 organizations?


1,637 posted on 07/11/2006 7:39:35 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: MikefromOhio
I've known you since you joined FR.

I always enjoyed reading your posts from Iraq and I know, KNOW FOR A FACT, that you never once, NOT EVER, by implication nor inference attempted to deceive anyone here as to what you were doing over there, nor with whom. And, as a matter of fact, I have seen you, numerous times, correct their assumptions.

Anyone who claims otherwise is a damned liar!

1,638 posted on 07/11/2006 7:39:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: EternalVigilance
You and your friends have offered up no proof whatsoever, in all of these hundreds of posts, of any kind of inappropriate action by Simcox.

I asked you a number of questions, hoping you would disprove inappropriate action by Simcox, but you didn't deign to answer them.

In fact, you implied that I must be a liberal or other terrible person to distrust Simcox.

I go on evidence, EV. You haven't shown me any. Why not?

1,639 posted on 07/11/2006 7:40:02 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: sinkspur; EternalVigilance
I will ask you, for the second time, if the MCDC and the MMP are tax exempt organizations? If not, why are they soliciting funds as if they were 501(c)4 organizations?

I wouldn't expect an answer anytime soon.....
1,640 posted on 07/11/2006 7:40:17 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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