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The Complicity of Muslim Silence
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | June 22, 2006 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 06/22/2006 4:39:53 AM PDT by angkor

We have heard many times that the vast majority of Muslims in the West are decent, law-abiding citizens who do not engage in jihad terrorism. That is manifestly true: most Muslims in the West are not engaging in terrorist activity. Many no doubt have no intention of ever doing so. But the recent arrests in Canada have raised questions about to what extent Muslims in Canada and other Western countries who are not engaging in terrorist plotting actually disapprove of such plotting – and how many passively allow it to continue under their noses either out of fear or because the ideological kinship between them and the plotters is closer than most Western authorities would like to believe.

In a meeting with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police just after the arrests, one Canadian Muslim leader asked Canadian officials why they hadn’t informed Muslim leaders about the plot, so that those leaders could have stopped it.

But there is mounting evidence that many Canadian Muslims did know – and yet did nothing to notify Canadian authorities of the plot. The Toronto Star reports that another suspect, Qayyum Abdul Jamal, actively spread the jihad ideology at the Ar-Rahman Islamic Center for Islamic Education in southern Ontario. Indeed, his “outspoken Wahhabist views” had “alarmed” some of the directors of the Islamic center. But by the account of mosque officials, because Jamal unlocked the mosque for daily prayers and they valued his services as a caretaker, they did nothing to stop his preaching. The Washington Post reports unironically: “He cleaned the rugs and took out the trash at the mosque. For those services, the directors tolerated his vitriolic speeches that portrayed Muslims as oppressed by the West, according to people familiar with the mosque.” No mainstream media outlet seems to have asked Ar-Rahman Islamic Center officials why they thought taking out the trash was a sufficient counterbalance to preaching hatred and violence. Sidestepping the fact that Jamal had been allowed to preach freely, Center Imam Qamrul Khanson said of those arrested: “I will say that they were steadfast, religious people. There’s no doubt about it. But here we always preach peace and moderation.”

Yet another imam in Toronto, Sayyid Ahmed Amiruddin, noted that three of the plotters, Saad Khalid, Zakaria Amara and Fahim Ahmad, “would enter into the mosque to pray, and they would pray in a very aggressive manner, and they would come in military fatigues and military touques and stuff. It looked to me that they were watching a lot of those Chechnyan jihad videos online and stuff.” Amiruddin said that they were influenced by jihadist material from Saudi Arabia, including Qur’ans with inflammatory explanatory notes: “In the back of these Qur'ans that are being published in Saudi Arabia, you have basically essays on the need for offensive jihad and the legitimacy of offensive jihad and things like that. Very alarming stuff." According to the CBC, “Amiruddin said many mainstream Muslim organizations in Canada are really part of the problem, standing by as extremist propaganda spreads in the mosques.” But while Amiruddin points out that these young men would attempt to win others over to their point of view, he says nothing about having done anything to stop them, or about resisting jihadist recruitment in general -- much less working with authorities to help them apprehend jihadists.

Also according to the Star, some of the plotters belonged to a school Muslim association in which they “discussed at an association gathering whether suicide bombing was permissible in Islam. Their views were so violent that the other association members threatened to have them banned.” But they apparently did not actually have them banned, or alert anyone to their violent views.

Likewise another Toronto Muslim, Mohammed Robert Heft. Heft said that one of the plotters, Fahim Ahmad, “believed the 19 people involved in the World Trade Center bombings were martyrs and he was handing out DVDs openly of wills and testimonies of those 19 people suggesting what they did was right.” According to the CBC, Heft asserted that “a lot of young Muslims are angry and extremism is prevalent in the Toronto area.” Heft claimed that he was dedicated to combating this “extremism”: “For the last two years I’ve been involved in this mentality. I was dealing with it on a grassroots level. All it takes is a little education and sorting out who to take religion from.” Yet he too apparently did nothing to alert Canadian authorities to Ahmad’s views.

And after all this, Canadian Muslim leaders complain that authorities did not go to them.

Canadian authorities, and officials in all Western countries, have been supine in the face of all this kind of thing for far too long. The jihad arrests in Canada should focus scrutiny not on the alleged misbehavior of Canadian law enforcement officials, but on the Muslim communities tolerance of the jihadist evil they profess to abhor. Law enforcement authorities in the West should call Muslim communities in their countries to account on this, and quickly -- or risk the successful execution of a jihad plot planned and executed under the noses of silent and supposedly moderate Western Muslims.


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada; crushislam; islam; jihad; jihadis; muslims; terrorism; toronto
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To: moonman

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21 posted on 06/22/2006 5:34:02 AM PDT by croak
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To: fortheDeclaration
Islam is a political movement, under the guise of a religion and thus, the Muslim has divided loyalities.

Islam is not a political movement; it is not a religion; it is not a cultural totalitarian straightjacket;

It is all three, but only in combination can we call it islam. Remove any of the three ingredients and it's entirely something else.

I like to use the perfect analogy: gunpowder. Remove any of the three ingredients and you can call it anything you want, but it ceases to be gunpowder.

Muslims like it just the way it is.

22 posted on 06/22/2006 5:45:24 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: angkor; ariamne; AmericanArchConservative; Fred Nerks; USF; jan in Colorado; TexasCowboy; ...

Good post Angkor.

PROP PING!...something we have all wondered about...


23 posted on 06/22/2006 6:03:36 AM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: Stallone
Racial profiling is exactly the right thing to do.

Before the days of pc, this was more accurately called a description of the suspects.
24 posted on 06/22/2006 6:07:07 AM PDT by D1X1E
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To: angkor
In a meeting with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police just after the arrests, one Canadian Muslim leader asked Canadian officials why they hadn’t informed Muslim leaders about the plot, so that those leaders could have stopped it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Translation:

Why didn't you back channel us so we could exercise our clerical authority to warn those WE select so they would avoid getting caught, while we choose a sacrificial lamb for you, thereby enhancing our authority and advancing toward the implementation of the law of SHARIA, weakening the system of Canadian Justice for the sake of our own religious control and the gradual conquest of Canada as a nation.

They don't get it. They are to be Canadians or they are to leave. Someone needs to biatch slap these POSs up side of the head. In public. This is a sovereignty issue NOT a multicultural issue.

Now you who read this are thinking, hey this poster is way HARSH:

Take a look and get real:

http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html

CANADA DOESN'T HAVE A PRAYER!

The U.S.- Canadian border is 4,000 miles long. Nearly all of this runs along territory which can never be fortified! Those seeking to sneak into the United States can do so by simply crossing waist high streams or forested areas. Geographically, Canada is the largest nation on earth [nearly 6.2 million square miles] yet her population is but a puny 28 million. The earliest record of a Muslim presence in Canada dates back to 1871 when the Canadian census recorded just 13 Muslim residents! One hundred and ten years later in 1981 there were 98,165 Muslims. And now, just 20 years after that last census, there are 400,000 Muslims in Canada! There are more than 80 mosques in Canada, four of which are located in Ottawa alone. In addition to mosques there are numerous locations in most major cities where space (known as musallah) is set aside for prayer purposes. In fact, Muslims now outnumber the Canadian-Jewish population and Islam is now the fastest-growing faith in Canada. One out of every fifty Canadians is a Muslim!

News Flash: Not all of these Muslims drive taxis! Experts estimate that there are at least 50 international terrorist organizations operating in Canada, including al-Qaida. Many of them are campus organizers pushing forward their anti-Israel and anti-West agendas. Thus, on September 9, 2002 on Montreal's Concordia University, violent clashes erupted between riot police and Arab/Muslim demonstrators preventing a speech by former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. So much for free speech and democratic values. Is this the sort of "secular, democratic state" that Arafat and his "Palestinian" nation-builders envision?

For a while there was talk about the province of Quebec (containing both Montreal and Quebec City) separating from Canada and forming its own government. Perhaps in time the Muslims will want a chunk of Canada for their own Islamic Republic!

And:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0503/thomas_muslim_threat.php3

In Canada, census figures released last week show that for the first time Muslims now outnumber Jews. The Canadian Muslim population increased 128.9 percent in the decade beginning in 1991, making Islam the fastest-growing faith in Canada. Muslims now make up 2 percent of the Canadian population, while Jews have declined from 1.2 to 1.1 percent, according to census data.

You don't have to be paranoid to fear where this can lead in Canada and in the United States -where immigration and births are dramatically increasing the Muslim population. Vote-hungry politicians might easily bow to the political objectives of Muslim voters, many of whom have agendas outside this country and, in fact, outside this world. When Muslims gain political power, the historical and contemporary record is not encouraging for people who hold democratic values and are of the "Judeo-Christian" persuasion. If politicians succumb to pressure from Muslim activist groups and equate Islam with the religious and political heritage of this country, we will know that an important beachhead has been attained by our enemies.

From their behavior in other parts of the world, one can safely predict they will use this beachhead to advance their cause.

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Islam isn't in Canada to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in Canada and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.

And if you still do not believe take a look at a movie of Muslims demonstrating in Montreal:

http://images.indymedia.org/imc/montreal/net-at-conu8jl1qn.mov

When Canadian hostages begin to be taken and a Canadian Muslim Terrorist organization decapitates them on video sent to the CBC for distribution, it will be TOO LATE.

ACT NOW. Write your MP and tell him or her to initiate a slap them down policy, and deport ALL Muslims who are in Canada illegally. Ask your MP to introduce law to make all visas from Muslims , including tourist visas, a matter of written application from Canadian Embasseys abroad. CONTROL THEM NOW!

25 posted on 06/22/2006 6:07:30 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: angkor
>"We have heard many times that the vast majority of Muslims in the West are decent, law-abiding citizens who do not engage in jihad terrorism."

They just give financial support, housing, technical aid, and immigration cover for the happy throat slitting baby raping fellow members of the church of satan!

26 posted on 06/22/2006 6:10:47 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl!)
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To: moonman

Ethically and morally the silent passive proponents of the Ideology of Death are guilty, just as the violent participants are guilty.


27 posted on 06/22/2006 6:11:57 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: Ax
Tell me: How does one "pray aggressively?">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You want to hear?

Visit this site and listen to the chant and you will get it. The chant starts up as soon as the page is loaded:

http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html

Aggressive prayer is used by Islamofascists to work themselves up into a frenzy. They do it over and over until all they have to do is say one line to themselves. It is hardly what we would call prayer but they believe the frenziness comes from Allah, when in fact they are cranking up their own ego and a destructive energy which originates within themselves, and which dehumanizes everyone except themselves and their immediate peers. They then can act without guilt or fear to kill other humans ( infidels) mercilessly. At this point they are INSANE.

This is "prayer" to all Muslims, even peaceful ones who keep their mouths shut as they watch Allah taking over the bodies and minds of the : "Jihadi Martyrs ( sic)"

Then they go out and kill.

Remedy: We need to kill them first by preventing such "prayer" and by actually shooting the bustards we cannot prevent.

28 posted on 06/22/2006 6:18:51 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: angkor; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

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29 posted on 06/22/2006 6:29:04 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Candor7; cardinal4

Some years ago I was in Khartoum, on R&R from Saudi Arabia. We saw the famous "whirling dervishes." They really worked themselves into a frenzy, but I suspect that may have been more for the tourists' benefit than for allah. I'll give that masada2000 web site a listen. Thanks.


31 posted on 06/22/2006 7:00:50 AM PDT by Ax (Go USA! Beat Ghana!)
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To: angkor

Any "religion" which condones murder, torture, and butchery does not belong in Canada, America or any other civized nations.


32 posted on 06/22/2006 7:39:28 AM PDT by newcthem (Where can I order a dozen bacon wrapped korans.........to go?)
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To: angkor

IIRC, the Muslim leaders in California (?) had a similar reaction to news reports that the FBI has been surveilling members of their mosque. "Why didn't you inform us, Mr. FBI man?"


33 posted on 06/22/2006 7:59:35 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Former Dodger

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 06/22/2006 8:57:51 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: angkor

I will go a step further and offer that ALL Muslims know there are activists in their cult who will terrorize, destroy and murder non-Muslims. It's an accepted fact. They are ALL taught that this must be done, so they ALL know it will be done-and is being done.
If they believe the teachings of Islam they MUST believe what the pro-active among them will do is right.
Accept the premise-permit the crime.

Am I the only one STILL waiting for the 'correct' interpretation of the Koran from CAIR and other 'moderate' Muslims? Where are they with a public interpretation that corrects what the 'extremists' make of the Koranic verses commanding the conquering or death of all non-Muslims?
They love to say it's all do to 'misinterpretation'.
So where is the CORRECT interpretation??


35 posted on 06/22/2006 9:26:02 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: moonman

The reason I find the language you cited alarming is that it demonstrates that the Muslims view themselves as a community unto themselves, with some kind of sovereignty, and not subject to the laws to which the rest of Canadians are subject.

The Canadians appear to be buying into this philosophy, to some extent. I remember reading that some governmental entity in Canada was considering allowing the Muslims to govern themselves internally according to Shariah. I wonder what happened to that.


36 posted on 06/22/2006 9:35:36 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Former Dodger
"But the recent arrests in Canada have raised questions about to what extent Muslims in Canada and other Western countries who are not engaging in terrorist plotting actually disapprove of such plotting – and how many passively allow it to continue under their noses either out of fear or because the ideological kinship between them and the plotters is closer than most Western authorities would like to believe."

The only questions are, like this one, rhetorical. Anyone with any sense at all already knows the answer.

37 posted on 06/22/2006 10:54:05 AM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: fortheDeclaration
There first loyalty is to Islam, not to any Western nation.

Worse, it appears that their only loyalty is to Islam.

38 posted on 06/22/2006 12:43:07 PM PDT by CaptainCanada ("Macht doch Eiern Dreck aleene!" (Take care of your own mess!).)
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To: Publius6961
Islam is a political movement, under the guise of a religion and thus, the Muslim has divided loyalities. Islam is not a political movement; it is not a religion; it is not a cultural totalitarian straightjacket; It is all three, but only in combination can we call it islam. Remove any of the three ingredients and it's entirely something else. I like to use the perfect analogy: gunpowder. Remove any of the three ingredients and you can call it anything you want, but it ceases to be gunpowder. Muslims like it just the way it is.

Well, whatever it is, the hybrid needs to be crushed.

39 posted on 06/22/2006 1:36:22 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: Former Dodger


UK and world news

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/


Jihad is 'Muslim obligation'Dec 20 2005

A lawyer defending al Qaida-linked suspects standing trial for the 2003 suicide bombings in Istanbul told a court that jihad, or holy war, was an obligation for Muslims and his clients should not be prosecuted.

"If you punish them for this, tomorrow, will you punish them for fasting or for praying?" Osman Karahan -- a lawyer representing 14 of the 72 suspects -- asked during a nearly four-hour speech in which he read religious texts from an encyclopedia of Islam.

The November 2003 blasts targeted two synagogues, the British Consulate and the local headquarters of the London-based HSBC bank, killing 58 people.




straight form the horse's (A$$) mouth.




40 posted on 06/22/2006 4:38:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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