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Stein: Iranian and Mexican soccer fans: With enemies like these, who needs friends
LA Times via The Austin American-Statesman ^ | June 15, 2006 | Joel Stein

Posted on 06/15/2006 7:49:39 PM PDT by neverdem

The two countries the United States hates most this month are Iran and Mexico. Iran, for its nukes; Mexico for its Mexicans. This is not a particularly good time to be waving south-of-the-border flags or screaming classic Persian fight songs.

So, when Mexico played Iran in the first round of the World Cup on Sunday morning, I drove down to watch it at Caspian, an Iranian restaurant in Irvine, Calif., to see how rowdy the two sides would get. I chose Irvine because it has a huge Iranian population and it happens to be in California, which is full of Mexicans.

I arrived at Caspian 45 minutes before game time, and the parking lot was already full. After I shouldered my way to the counter, I bought a tea and a bowl of "halim," an Iranian porridge made of wheat, lentils and meat.

At the condiments table, I noticed that everyone was pouring astronomical amounts of sugar and cinnamon on their "halim." The first clue that a food will not be delicious is when people cover it with sugar and cinnamon.

As I entered a room packed with people, a huge chant went up. Having occasionally seen the news in the past 30 years, I was initially nervous about being in the middle of a huge crowd of chanting Iranians.

But the guy sitting to my right, Raytheon software engineer Navead Hashemi, noticed my disquiet and gently translated the song for me: "What is Iran going to do to the team? THEY'RE GOING TO TEAR THEM UP!"

I felt much better.

Looking to get along, I asked Hashemi if I should refer to my new friends as Iranians or Persians.

"Persian sounds better to Americans because of terrorism," he said. "Me, I always tell people I'm Iranian."

I stared nervously...

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: immigration; iran

1 posted on 06/15/2006 7:49:43 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Who hates Mexicans? Nobody I know.


2 posted on 06/15/2006 7:55:54 PM PDT by conejo99
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To: neverdem

I read the whole article. What was the point?


3 posted on 06/15/2006 7:56:08 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead

I read the whole thing, too---it's as pointless as most of the Austin un-American Statesman is.


4 posted on 06/15/2006 8:00:29 PM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Leave the southern border open so those nice Iranians can come join their Mexican brothers?


Other than that... point of the post is lost on me too.
5 posted on 06/15/2006 8:00:56 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: conejo99; Texas_Jarhead
Who hates Mexicans? Nobody I know.

That's what grabbed me. Joel Stein's style reminds me of MoDo from the NY Times.

6 posted on 06/15/2006 8:03:04 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
I read the whole article. What was the point?

That sugar makes stuff taste good...or something like that; it's from the Statesman so who knows.
7 posted on 06/15/2006 8:04:31 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: neverdem

I hate Mexican soccer (futbol) fans...

When you chant "Osama" at the US team during a 'friendly' that hatred is earned.


8 posted on 06/15/2006 8:04:47 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Too soon... to forget. See United 93)
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To: neverdem
"halim," an Iranian porridge made of wheat, lentils and meat

Yum!

9 posted on 06/15/2006 8:04:56 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: rwilson99

Sorry.. during Olympic Qualifying

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4236314/


10 posted on 06/15/2006 8:06:12 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Too soon... to forget. See United 93)
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To: neverdem

Say what you want about the Iranians; Caspians is one of the best resturants I have ever had the pleasure of dining at! Reasonable prices, and the food is outstanding. How can a culture as backwards as the Muslums; have food this great?


12 posted on 06/15/2006 8:21:10 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
I read the whole article. What was the point?

It turned out to be one of those literary deals -- kind of like The Natural or A River Runs Through It.

13 posted on 06/15/2006 8:41:38 PM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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To: neverdem
At the condiments table, I noticed that everyone was pouring astronomical amounts of sugar and cinnamon on their "halim." The first clue that a food will not be delicious is when people cover it with sugar and cinnamon.

Ever heard of oatmeal?

14 posted on 06/15/2006 8:43:20 PM PDT by RichInOC (Stupidity is its own punishment...but not as often as it should be.)
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To: neverdem

By chance, I was having breakfast in a restaurant in Nogales, Mexico during the Mexico vs. Iran game. When we entered the restaurant, the score was tied 1-1. Everyone in the restaurant wore three stripes -- green, white, and red -- on their faces, representing the Mexican flag, and of course they were glued to the TV. While we ate breakfast, Mexico scored their second and third goals, and the mood in the restaurant was jubilant, to say the least. It was a fun time to be in Mexico.


15 posted on 06/15/2006 8:52:57 PM PDT by AZLiberty (America is the hope of all men who believe in the principle of freedom and justice. - A. Einstein)
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To: freedom44
This is why I would rather have seen Iran beat Mexico, although at first it was a toss up for who I wanted to lose more...
16 posted on 06/15/2006 9:05:14 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: hsalaw
Halim? Had breakfast Thank You. Jes pass the fried chitlin's please. And dunna forget the hot sauce and vinegar..or peas and greens if any's left..
17 posted on 06/16/2006 2:14:54 AM PDT by Gunny P (Gunny P)
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