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Mayor calls housing plan 'communist'
South Florida Sun-Sentinel ^ | 05/20/2006 | Brittany Wallman

Posted on 05/22/2006 9:41:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

FORT LAUDERDALE -- Mega-developers and the city's mayor are shooting down a proposed affordable-housing law, calling it unfair, communistic and doomed to failure. People could afford a place to live, the mayor said, if they were willing to work harder.

Mayor Jim Naugle, a conservative politician in his final term, said people mistakenly think they're entitled to affordable single-family houses on a 40-hour work routine. They need to work more hours, and even then settle for a condo or townhouse, Naugle said.

"I'm supposed to subsidize some schlock sitting on the sofa and drinking a beer, who won't work more than 40 hours a week?" he asked. "I deny that there is a problem. You can buy condos all day for $160,000."

Naugle's comments may be contested by the working-class citizens who've told the city they want homes but can't afford them. But his ideas might hit home in other circles, where a city proposal to make developers slash prices or pay a fee was met with skepticism.

"We ought to let the free market work," said Bill Scherer, a lawyer-developer on the city's Downtown Development Authority.

South Florida's cities only recently decided housing prices had reached crisis-level highs, and Fort Lauderdale is one of the first to try to pass a law to do something about it. The city is under pressure from Broward County to pass a law; otherwise, the county says it won't allow another wave of construction of thousands of condos downtown.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: EricaNGU
"So you think Americans should have two or three jobs to afford a decent place to live?"

If they want to live in a community with outrageously expensive housing prices, yes.

41 posted on 05/22/2006 10:43:03 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: EricaNGU

This fellow's term-limited, he's out after this term no matter what. Ergo, he can actually speak truth.


42 posted on 05/22/2006 10:44:54 AM PDT by leoncaruthers
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To: EricaNGU

Hope not...


43 posted on 05/22/2006 10:46:10 AM PDT by dakine
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To: KenmcG414
"For once a politician who tells the truth"


....Which means, of course, that his political future is now in here......

44 posted on 05/22/2006 10:46:36 AM PDT by Crispus Attucks Patriot
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To: flashbunny

That's the way they "fix" things here behind the maple curtain.


45 posted on 05/22/2006 10:48:20 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (The Stations of the Cross in Poetry ---> http://www.wayoftears.com)
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To: EricaNGU

You seem to be operating under the assumption or expectation that working people are entitled to nice stuff. It's not working, alone, which allows for nice stuff (if that was the case, most people on Judge Judy would seem successful in life); but rather what you do and how you do it.


46 posted on 05/22/2006 10:48:26 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican; Lando Lincoln
"schlock"

Isn't that a schlage?

48 posted on 05/22/2006 11:01:11 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Without consistent core conservatives in charge, the GOP is fast becoming the Gelded Old Party!!!)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
if they don't like the prices they should move

Why should they? The rich don't have to move so why should the rest of us? Isn't there supposed to be equality under the law? That is not fair and you are mean-spirited.

Those comments are so ridiculous I would think everyone would recognize them as sarcasm. However, there are so many idiots who think that way I had better say that I am not one of them.

49 posted on 05/22/2006 11:08:35 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: EricaNGU
"Mayor Jim Naugle, a conservative politician in his final term ... "


Can you see it now?



50 posted on 05/22/2006 11:09:20 AM PDT by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of outthinking our adversaries?)
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To: EricaNGU
So you think Americans should have two or three jobs to afford a decent place to live?

No! But I don't think Americans should have two or three jobs so you can have a decent place to live. ;-)

51 posted on 05/22/2006 11:09:55 AM PDT by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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To: flashbunny

He is right. Leave the market alone. People will leave the city. Demand will become less constrictive. Prices will fall. People will move back. It is a very simple theory and very real.


52 posted on 05/22/2006 11:11:28 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Brittany Wallman?

OMG, another Brittany in the workforce.


53 posted on 05/22/2006 11:11:58 AM PDT by Crawdad (Hey, baby. Can I hijack your thread?)
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To: flashbunny
Great idea - housing is too expensive, so threaten to constrict supply! Genius!

Actually one way to increase supply might be to loosen zoning laws. But liberals tend to go for the easy fix, which is to have taxpayers foot the bill. The other problem is that a lot of conservatives (together with liberal hypocrites) may oppose the loosening of zoning laws, because they don't want the riff-raff showing up on their side of town.
54 posted on 05/22/2006 11:20:32 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Responsibility2nd
The city is under pressure from Broward County to pass a law; otherwise, the county says it won't allow another wave of construction of thousands of condos downtown.

The irony is that the construction of new condos in the city will drive down prices, whereas the county government seems to think that new construction will drive prices higher. I think the county government has a basic lack of understanding about economics. When supply goes up, prices go down. It's as simple as that. The new condos are part of the solution to the problem of expensive housing.
55 posted on 05/22/2006 11:27:00 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: John Jorsett

who is screaming about the prices? illegals? hispanics? cubans? haitians? druggies? that's about all that lives in S. Florida anyway.

What they need to be addressing more than subsidized housing is the lack of homeowners insurance in this state. We had our housing growth over the last few years. It has been phenomenal but at some point, the "bubble" has to break and it is slowly leaking. What is not changing is the fact that 1) most companies in Florida do not pay even close to the national average in salaries because we don't have state tax here. (2) because of the hurricanes, the cost of housing has risen to the point that it is darn near impossible for a young, married couple to buy a home in Florida that they can afford that is of any descency. (3) Even if you can find a 1/2 way descent place to live, it is even more difficult to find homeowners insurance. Insurance carriers are dropping homeowners like flies and leaving this state, which leaves homeowners like myself the option to have no insurance or pay $6,000 to $8,000 a year for a $160,000.00 house through the state funded Citizens insurance! Many, many people are opting for no insurance because they cannot afford the monopoly price.

Jeb and others had an emergency meeting a week or so ago but Floridians are still in a quandry over what they will do. My homeowners insurance is cancelling me as of June 1. I have nowhere to turn but Citizens and with kids in college, kids at home, medical bills, and both hubby and me working...well, I don't know what we'll do. And it's not because we're shlocks and drink beer! It's because we live in a geriatric hurricane state and the big man is screwing us once again. Insurance companies. All these years we put our money into these dang companies with not one claim and then they do this - split and run. Hundreds of thousands of dollars gone over the years.

Wouldn't it be great if the insurance companies, before they moved out of the state, be made to pay the homeowners the amount paid on the policies minus any claims on the policies? I think it would make the insurance companies think twice about pulling out of the state.


56 posted on 05/22/2006 11:29:32 AM PDT by immigration lady (defeat is only momentary)
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To: Responsibility2nd
there is a point at which this can lead to a labour crisis, the area I am working in now has a critical shortage of labour - there are probably ten thousand unfilled jobs.

The problem is those who would take these jobs, can't afford to live here.

This labour crisis can then lead to the employment of illegal immigrants, who will live twenty people to a 1200sq foot apartment.

57 posted on 05/22/2006 11:33:41 AM PDT by Energy Alley ("War on Christians" = just another professional victim group.)
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To: nosofar

"Communism is fine for small groups of people."

Recent studies of the plight of the Israeli kibbutz will disabuse you of this notion.


58 posted on 05/22/2006 11:34:15 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Responsibility2nd

Har! I like the way this guy talks, but honestly, how do you explain the fact that my parents raised 7 kids on a single teacher's salary for all those years? Now instead of raising kids, we have to raise a gubmint, and they're all 500-lb brats.


59 posted on 05/22/2006 11:35:24 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Zhang Fei

City Councils. They are frightening, indeed.

I watch city council meetings in my town, on TV. Planning commission meetings, as well. For each intelligent council/commission member, there are at minimum two idiots. I suppose I should get involved somehow rather than bit@h about it.


60 posted on 05/22/2006 11:43:28 AM PDT by jblair
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