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Why crack down on immigration?
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | 4/30/2006 | Mitchell Schnurmann

Posted on 04/30/2006 6:21:01 AM PDT by sinkspur

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To: Baynative; Mojave
And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being anti-housebreaker.

Good points, but "anti-housebreaker" needs to be rephrased... "Anti-houseguest" fits with the morally neutered "anti-immigration" BS.

61 posted on 04/30/2006 7:26:49 AM PDT by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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To: deport
"what are the legal means"

There are 5000 Green cards allocated for low skilled.

There are two guest worker visas for low skilled. Both are obselete in that they are seasonal. The quotas are very low and the regulations are complex.

There are about 25,000 farm workers in the country under the H2A. The quota on the H2B has been at 66,000 but was temporarily bumped up to 96,000 last year but will revert in Sept, unless congress Oks the higher number again.

62 posted on 04/30/2006 7:34:46 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: sinkspur
Well, the education is court-mandated. So, Texas school districts have little choice.

Courts change their mind. A court decision isn't always the end of the subject. See Dredd Scott.

63 posted on 04/30/2006 7:38:16 AM PDT by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: sinkspur
The illegal alien lobby and their enablers are in for a rude awakening...(except for the CFR folks who have a much different agenda)

The illegal alien invaders have formed the biggest UNION this nation has ever seen...the meat packers support the construction illegals who support the agricultural farm workers who support the narco terrorists who support the Marxists who support the Chi Coms and so on and so on..

These demonstrations are only object lessons to America of what is the next phase..

Once they all obtain their blanket amnesty they will own America...and every commercial enterprise they dominate as LABOR...

They will vote dogmatically and as a block...they will collectively bargain in every business as one block...

As Americas biggest Union...they will coerce threaten and use violence to get their way...

In the end the large corporations who use illegal alien labor will pay through the nose...or be destroyed...

They will all wish to high Heaven they had their real Americans back and paid them a living wage...

imo
64 posted on 04/30/2006 7:42:20 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Ben Ficklin

Thanks...... I didn't think the numbers where very high or else they'd be used to gain legal entry unless the process was very detailed. If the country needs a larger number of these workers then it seems they need to revise the visa process to make them legal and get them on the tax rolls, etc.

I read an article the other day where a company was trying to get some 300 fitters, welders etc into the country from Mexico but was doing it via the green card route. I don't know what success they had if any.


65 posted on 04/30/2006 7:42:46 AM PDT by deport
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To: hershey

Good post. I would expand on this point.

...socialism requires workers!..

Socialism destroys the natural instinct to reproduce. Thus in every country where it has influence, the birthrate drops below the level needed for sustaining the population. We are there too, its just that we have so many legal (good) and ILLEGAL (bad) immigrants that our population is increasing.


66 posted on 04/30/2006 7:46:01 AM PDT by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first.)
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To: Enterprise
JMO, but as I have posted in so many words before, it is not a coincidence that this crap is being done on May 1. As you are aware, May 1 is celebrate communism day.

It's not a coincidence - I agree, and if you look at some of the groups that are organizing this, they are liberal/communist groups. Frankly, I think all people absent from work tomorrow without a legitimate excuse should be fired (I know that isn't possible, but it would be nice).

This is not about immigration. This is the infancy of a leftist, separatist, "home-rule" revolution. In time, we will see the violent tactics used in Mexico and South America, complete with bombings, kidnappings, and assassinations of police and political figures. And I have total faith and confidence that our Government will cower and eventually capitulate.

I am in agreement, to an extent. Our government has proven to show cowardice in the face of leftist agression in the past (the 1960's come to mind) and I doubt that their response would be any different in the future. The second amendment is all we really have, and the left (and some psuedo-rightists) want to remove that as well.

I get to work downtown tomorrow, and I'm hoping that the invader's march forgets this city. If they do, they'd best stay out of my way as I'm not in a mood for militant protesters. And you can bet that I'll have the tools necessary to ward off agression if necessary.

67 posted on 04/30/2006 7:51:09 AM PDT by meyer (Dems are stuck on stupid. Al Gore invented stupid.)
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To: meyer

Well, be sensible nonetheless. Get to work safely my friend, and go around them if you have to. Remember, you have obligations, they don't!


68 posted on 04/30/2006 7:56:38 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: deport
I think that would take an amendment editing what the 14th says for clarification rather than a law by congress.

No, I don't think so. Congress makes laws under the authority of a constitutional provision. The phraseology in the 14th is general enough to clarify it using legislation. Just look at what they did with the commerce clause.

69 posted on 04/30/2006 7:57:25 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Enterprise
Well, be sensible nonetheless. Get to work safely my friend, and go around them if you have to. Remember, you have obligations, they don't!

Thanks - Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to invoke trouble with the invaders. But if they happen to go on the offensive, I will do what is necessary to protect myself. If they are around, I expect a strong police presence as well.

70 posted on 04/30/2006 8:03:33 AM PDT by meyer (Dems are stuck on stupid. Al Gore invented stupid.)
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To: sinkspur

It's not about immigration. The article should be ignored due to fatal fallacy from the beginning.


72 posted on 04/30/2006 8:08:02 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: William Terrell

A law may work. It could be enacted and tested via the SCOTUS.


73 posted on 04/30/2006 8:09:31 AM PDT by deport
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To: meyer

Someday maybe one of our Presidents will establish a national "Self Defense Doctrine." In it will be the doctrine that when U.S. citizens are defending themselves or others, or their property against criminal attacks then such defense is Constitutional and they are to be shielded from criminal prosecutions and civil lawsuits.


74 posted on 04/30/2006 8:10:29 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: sinkspur

You can not pay income taxes without having a SS number. Only legal citizens can have SS numbers and you must, by law, pay income taxes if you work. Avoiding income taxes is a crime, as is collecting state and Federal income taxes from people who do not have a SS number. The IRS will be more then happy to see that you understand this. We want illegals to pay the same fees and taxes that we (legals) do. This means no free medical, housing, food, energy, etc. for illegals. Why should we have to pay for medical insurance while illegals get free medical care? Free health care often leads to abuse of the system, which is why I have seen cases where illegals visit the hospital nearly every week for no valid reason. I think most of the people here are against illegal rather then legal immigration.


75 posted on 04/30/2006 8:10:45 AM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: deport
I'm almost afraid to let any law that protects and empowers the American citizen get to the SCOTUS.

76 posted on 04/30/2006 8:17:25 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: sinkspur
Why crack down on immigration?

DEFINITION BELOW

A fifth column is a group of people which clandestinely undermines a larger group to which it is expected to be loyal, such as a nation. The term originated with a 1936 radio address by Emilio Mola, a Nationalist general during the 1936-39 Spanish Civil War. As four of his army columns moved on Madrid, the general referred to his militant supporters within the capital as his "fifth column," intent on undermining the Republican government from within. The term is also used in reference to a population who are assumed to have loyalties to countries other than the one in which they reside, or who support some other nation in war efforts against the country they live in.

77 posted on 04/30/2006 8:19:18 AM PDT by jetson (throne)
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To: EagleUSA; All
Above everything, and before anything, THE BORDER MUST BE CLOSED. If that means a fence, a wall or both, then it must be done, but the flow MUST BE STOPPED. Bush won't do it -- and most of Congress won't do it -- where does that leave the American citizen??

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If you do want to give financially to Republicans, give only to individual candidates/politicians who support or vote to secure our borders and don’t cater to illegals!!!

78 posted on 04/30/2006 8:21:39 AM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: AmericaOne

President Bush I just wanted to thank both yourself an President Clinton for ignoring our constituion and helping to create our future race war. By allowing a fifth column of illegals into our country and not properly screening them you have weakened our internal security. Thank you for going against the will of the people.


79 posted on 04/30/2006 8:24:31 AM PDT by jetson (throne)
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To: wardaddy

Ok, we know where to find them - so round 'em up and send 'em back!!


80 posted on 04/30/2006 8:25:34 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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