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What REALLY is driving up oil prices.
4/26/06 | self

Posted on 04/26/2006 6:35:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Okay, I have seen a LOT of threads claiming that oil companies aren't really making that much on each gallon of gasoline.

Oh, really? (blink, blink) Then explain the record profits by the oil companies.

Why sure. First, US oil companies don't import all of their oil. In fact several companies actually import very little. Where do they get it? Why, from wells on private and federal land that they drilled on years and years ago. What is the extraction cost to get it out of these wells? You can be darned sure that it is nowhere near $75 a barrel. In fact, I read that it is somewhere around $7 to $15 a barrel. Add to this cost a small royalty that they pay the federal government or private land owner and refining and transportation cost and you come up with maybe $25 a barrel.

Now, mix in the oil they bought 3 or 4 months ago at $52 a barrel that is just now coming to the refinery and you have an average of between $25 and $40 a barrel.

So what we have is huge profits at the expense of the consumer. How long will it last? The prices will start to drop once they feel they are starting to harm the economy. Congress and the media and the consumers stop bothering them and they look for the next opportunity to do it all over again.


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To: John Valentine

I stand by my statement.

It's not supply and demand that have taken oil prices this high. Prices have risen much faster and higher than demand has. Also production has been increased.

If Thomas Sowell can be an economist, so can I.

I'll take simple math over doubletalk any day.


201 posted on 04/26/2006 9:02:34 PM PDT by voteconstitutionparty
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Being in the oil business in America, is like having the only water concession in the desert!

It ain't really supply and demand, more like "Need and Greed!

203 posted on 04/26/2006 9:03:04 PM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A perfect example of someone who has no clue of what he is talking about. The oil companies are making more $$ because they are two companies. They are comprised of, e.g., Exxon who made XX billions and Mobile who made xx billions. The profits are greater but the number of gallons sold is greater. No matter what, they make a profit of $0.083 / gallon sold.

The government made 10 times that much in taxes not including state taxes and sales tax.


204 posted on 04/26/2006 9:03:28 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental illness!)
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To: xjcsa

Actually, Knowledge and Decisions may be the most formative book I ever read. In a sense, it changed my life. But, it is a very dense book and requires an effort on the part of the reader to digest. Every sentence in the book is packed with meaning. I have given away a couple dozen copies over the years, but only when I think someone will make the effort to actually read the book with the focus it requires.


205 posted on 04/26/2006 9:04:40 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: voteconstitutionparty

If you are accusing Tom Sowell of doubletalk or using complicated math, then you REALLY don't know what you are talking about.

The situation is really simple, and very easy to understand. I understand you don't like it; who does?

But, just because a situation exists that is not to your liking doesn't mean that there is a conspiracy affot.


208 posted on 04/26/2006 9:07:54 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Sabatier
I'm old enough to remember the gas lines back in the '70s.

As am I.

Which brings to mind a question:
What happened to the "Oil Shortage"?

You know...all the brouhaha about how we were running out of oil?

Do you suppose that the dirty little secret of the oil companies is that crude oil is a renewable resource? Carbon, pressure and time create diamonds and the world doesn't seem to run out of those.
Organic matter, pressure and time creates oil. Do you suppose that the vast scientific research resources available to these oil companies has discovered something that they'd just rather not have everyone know? It would destroy their margins.
Just speculatin'.

209 posted on 04/26/2006 9:08:42 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
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To: voteconstitutionparty
If Thomas Sowell can be an economist, so can I.

That ranks as one of the most ignorant statements I've seen all day.

210 posted on 04/26/2006 9:10:16 PM PDT by scarface367 (This tagline has nothing better to do than appear here)
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To: PunkBuster

If we got rid of all onerous government regulations and tariffs, then oil production would increase, refining capacity would increase, and gasoline prices would be lower than they are today with all the onerous government regulations and tariffs. Federal and state regulators make sure that crude oil cost savings are passed on to consumers. There's no way for refiners to pocket all the extra profit. It doesn't happen immediately, but pump prices fall when crude oil prices fall.


211 posted on 04/26/2006 9:10:29 PM PDT by carl in alaska ("You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed." - Mt 24:4)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Everyone I know is limiting their driving to going to work and for business purposes. Recreational use is way,way down on the list.

But the more we conserve, the higher goes the price.

This is far from economic cause and effect.

Can't prove it, but those who think this situation is okay, I will bet are those who can afford to pi$$ their money away or are in some way reaping this windfall along with oil companies.

212 posted on 04/26/2006 9:10:47 PM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: thackney
Well, based on your graph 05=06 on average. What I can not understand is the spike on monthly especially on weekly!
What factors have you employed to generate that graph?
213 posted on 04/26/2006 9:11:42 PM PDT by danmar ("Reason obeys itself,and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it....... Thomas Paine)
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To: thackney

I'd suggest since this is 'American' oil, and tons and tons of it is freely given to the oil companies




While it certainly is not given free, considering lease fees, equipment costs, ect the return for Americans is OIL!!!

If Taxes and Lease fees are sent to DC, and the money is "GIVEN FREELY" to the welfare folks, what is the return??? More 15 year olds welping babies who will grow up and show up in 15 years demanding their checks! NOW that is a sound investment!!!

GEEZZZZZZZZ


215 posted on 04/26/2006 9:12:33 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: John Valentine

Actually, we seem to be saying the same thing.

That it has nothing to do with supply and demand, and everything to do with charging whatever the market will bear.

True?


216 posted on 04/26/2006 9:14:04 PM PDT by voteconstitutionparty
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To: FixitGuy

Why do I still see people driving 80 miles an hour on the freeway?

They could shave 15% or more off of their gas bill doing 65. I guess it is more fun to bitch and moan about the gas price.


217 posted on 04/26/2006 9:14:37 PM PDT by listenhillary (The original Contract with America - The U.S. Constitution)
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To: PunkBuster
Welcome to Free Rebublic!

Happy 1st Day Anniversary.

219 posted on 04/26/2006 9:15:23 PM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: FixitGuy

But the more we conserve, the higher goes the price.




No evidence of reduced oil consumption yet. When that happens YES supplies will increase and the prices will drop.


220 posted on 04/26/2006 9:15:39 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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