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Fair dispute simmers; off-duty officers want to carry guns
SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE ^ | March 23, 2006 | James Steinberg

Posted on 03/24/2006 10:02:56 AM PST by neverdem

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OK for me, but not for thee test time. On the other hand, considering the San Fran gun ban, maybe a better analogy is the camel's nose getting under the tent.
1 posted on 03/24/2006 10:02:58 AM PST by neverdem
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To: Travis McGee
BANG!
2 posted on 03/24/2006 10:04:29 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Richard L. Pinckard, the attorney for the deputies and police officers, says the ban violates federal law, which allows off-duty peace officers to carry their firearms on public property unless a state legislates against it.

Isn't this RP's incorporation bs argument?

Too bad it isn't also argued on straight 2nd Ammendment interprtation but with the 9th circus we know how that would go.

3 posted on 03/24/2006 10:09:56 AM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: neverdem
The officers want a “clear statement” that they will not be prohibited from carrying their weapons

Too bad they don't have the same concern for the people they work for. I say shut them down and let them have to go through what everyone else does.

4 posted on 03/24/2006 10:11:16 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: neverdem
maybe a better analogy is the camel's nose getting under the tent

That's a poor analogy because that camel's nose disconnects from the rest of the body once it's inside.

5 posted on 03/24/2006 10:13:24 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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San Diego County
General notes
Date updated: Feb 28, 2006 @ 6:36:37 pm EST

CA DOJ records indicate there are 1703 permits in this county as of 2004. County population as of 7/1/2000 = 2,836,179

From what I've heard, SD is red unless you haul money around, etc.


6 posted on 03/24/2006 10:24:04 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: neverdem

Some lives are worth more than others...


7 posted on 03/24/2006 10:28:06 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: neverdem
The Fairgrounds has a decent arguement. I am a HUGE second amendment advocate. But, there must be a balance for property rights. A property owner has vested interest in controlling his property.

One might bring up the failed FL legislation, regarding storing guns in the parking lot. A parking lot is much different from the actual building.

The Fairgrounds should be fairly safe with the large presence of Uniformed police. Andecdotal evidence is replete with instances of uniformed police mistaking off-duty cops for criminals.

One last point. While I like the intent of the resolution allowing off-duty police to carry nationwide. It is another case of the federal goverment legislating in questionable areas. I would have more in favor of legislation pressuring the states to adopt their own version of nationwide carry.

I just hope that in our zeal to defend an issue that is near and dear to us we don't go against conservative principles.

8 posted on 03/24/2006 10:30:53 AM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: neverdem

off duty police officers should not carry because they "might be needed" they should carry for protection. a cop is more likely to be assaulted because any given cop likely has jailed at least one violent criminal who is now out and might take a chance at revenge.
of course, cops should not have a different set of laws from teh general populace, and if a cop can be allowed to carry for protection, then every other citizen should be able to as well.


9 posted on 03/24/2006 10:39:54 AM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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a cop is more likely to be assaulted because any given cop likely has jailed at least one violent criminal who is now out and might take a chance at revenge

For every thug seeking revenge on a cop, there are probably 10 thugs who would rather victimize a civilian vs a cop.

10 posted on 03/24/2006 10:45:05 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: neverdem

No cop should have any civil right denied to the rest of us.


11 posted on 03/24/2006 11:09:50 AM PST by Redbob
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To: neverdem

I guess that they don't like going about unarmed like mere commoners.


12 posted on 03/24/2006 11:10:48 AM PST by Redcloak (WARNING: This post may be a violation of Federal law.)
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To: neverdem

They should live under the same rules and laws as everyone else. If the citizens can’t carry guns neither should they.


13 posted on 03/24/2006 11:16:40 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: neverdem

The clowns need to follow the same edicts as the rest of us. If guns are banned for us peasants, they should be for the elites and their thugs too.


14 posted on 03/24/2006 11:28:42 AM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

guns for me.....but not for thee


15 posted on 03/24/2006 12:46:19 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: SUSSA

It looks like the libbs have to even ban off duty Police from carrying guns. Man, do they fear guns that much?


16 posted on 03/24/2006 3:04:45 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: neverdem

Some pigs are more equal than others?


17 posted on 03/24/2006 4:27:12 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: ozoneliar

>>The policy went into effect during the final three days of the 2003 fair, and metal detectors now screen all fairgoers for knives, guns and other weapons.<<

"The Fairgrounds should be fairly safe with the large presence of Uniformed police. "

Why should there even be a need for police officers? All fairgoers have been cleared of carrying knives, guns and other weapons.


18 posted on 03/24/2006 9:12:41 PM PST by B4Ranch (What has an alimentary canal, a big appetite at one end & no sense of responsibility at the other.)
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I am a HUGE second amendment advocate. But,

No, you're not. You should have quit while you were ahead.

19 posted on 03/25/2006 4:09:24 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: neverdem

When I was a cop in Florida you were practically required to carry your duty weapon EVERYWHERE you went (except airports); banks, bars, fairgrounds, etc.


20 posted on 03/25/2006 4:16:14 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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