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Bush: Ports Deal Collapse May Hurt U.S.
AP via yahoo.com ^ | March, 10 2006 | JENNIFER LOVEN

Posted on 03/10/2006 8:16:05 PM PST by crushelits

Bush: Ports Deal Collapse May Hurt U.S.

YOU CAN THANK THE DEMORATS FOR THAT, A YES MANY REPUBLICANS TOO. (My quote)

President Bush said Friday the collapse of the Dubai ports deal could hurt U.S. efforts to recruit Mideast governments as partners in the worldwide war on terror.

Separately, in what may have been an aftershock to the failed transaction, a new round of trade talks between the U.S. and the United Arab Emirates was postponed.

On Thursday, Dubai-based DP World backed away in the face of unrelenting criticism and announced it would transfer its management of port terminals in major U.S. cities to an American entity.

Bush struck a defiant tone Friday with the Republican-led Congress whose new willingness to buck him has taken its most dramatic form with the ports controversy.

The president said he was open to improving the government's method of reviewing such transactions, but he insisted his administration's approval of the deal had posed no security risk — and that the reversal could have the opposite effect.

"I'm concerned about a broader message this issue could send to our friends and allies around the world, particularly in the Middle East," said Bush during an appearance before a conference of the National Newspaper Association. "In order to win the war on terror, we have got to strengthen our friendships and relationships with moderate Arab countries in the Middle East."

The United Arab Emirates, of which Dubai is a part, is just such a country, Bush said.

Dubai services more U.S. military ships than any other country, shares useful intelligence about terrorists and helped shut down a global black-market nuclear network run by Pakistani nuclear scientist A.Q. Khan, the administration says. This week, though, the State Department's annual human rights report called the UAE's performance "problematic," citing floggings as punishment for adultery or drug abuse.

The president said he would now have to work to shore up the U.S. relationship with the UAE and explain to Congress and the public why it's a valuable one.

"UAE is a committed ally in the war on terror," he said.

En route Friday to a presidential inauguration in Chile, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice echoed Bush. The failed ports deal "means that we are going to have to work and double our efforts to send a strong message that we value our allies, our moderate allies, in the Middle East," she said.

Thursday's action spared Bush an embarrassing showdown, which he seemed likely to lose, over the veto he had threatened of any attempt by Congress to block the transaction.

After weeks of questions from lawmakers of both parties about whether giving a state-owned company from an Arab country control of significant port operations could increase terrorist dangers, the silence from Republicans on Friday was telling. The only statements came from Democrats who sought to keep the issue alive.

Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., a chief critic of the Dubai deal, said lawmakers needed more detail on DP World's planned divestiture. It wasn't clear which American business might get the port operations, or how the U.S. entity would be related to the Dubai government.

"Make no mistake, we are going to scrutinize this deal with a fine tooth comb," Schumer said.

And the Democratic Party planned a mobile billboard in Memphis, Tenn., where GOP activists were gathering for a weekend conference, accusing Republicans of standing in the way of providing enough funding for port security. "Republicans owe the American people answers as to where they really stand," said party spokesman Luis Miranda.

Republicans, too, have said the deal's end does nothing to address the nation's continuing vulnerability at its ports, where the vast majority of shipping containers are not inspected. In fact, work continued on Capitol Hill on two fronts: reworking the process under which the government approves foreign investment and boosting port security.

Senate Homeland Security Chairwoman Susan Collins, R-Maine, promised a committee vote by the end of April on legislation to strengthen cargo inspections and port security. Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Calif., was readying a nearly identical measure for the House. Both bills have Democratic co-sponsors.

There were some signs the president's worries about the impact abroad were warranted.

Analysts said the developments could make cash-rich investors in the Persian Gulf, where there is the widespread belief that the furor was rooted in anti-Arab bias, wary of high-profile investments in the United States.

And the latest round of negotiations on a new free-trade arrangement between the U.S. and the UAE, scheduled for Monday in the United Arab Emirates, was postponed.

Both sides hastened to dispel speculation that the delay was the result of the ports controversy.

Neena Moorjani, spokeswoman for U.S. Trade Representative Rob Portman (news, bio, voting record), would not directly address that question, but said it's not unusual for delegations to need more time to prepare. A UAE official said there was no connection, and that working groups would continue discussions by phone.


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To: 1rudeboy
Duped, I think, because of the emotional nature of this situation.

I think most of the guys on 'our side' were so quick to move because of fear.........fear of seeming weak, fear of being out maneuvered by the left, fear of losing in November........all that, and more.

The irony is, I think they have behaved more weakly in trying to puff up their chests, and have actually hurt their chances of reelection in November because of this hysteria driven debacle.

We obviously will have to wait and see how it pans out, but IMO, it has hurt far more than it has helped. Not to the point of losing the Senate or the House perhaps, but definitely to the point of losing seats, and more importantly the respect of their constituents.

We expect leaders, not emotional reactionaries.

301 posted on 03/11/2006 8:10:39 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
" I've begun to wonder if people I thought were legitimate freepers aren't under cover for the left."

We got lazy in thought. We got hijacked; with our pants down. Let's get back in shape here. People can die because of what happened last week. Think!!

302 posted on 03/11/2006 8:18:50 AM PST by BobS
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To: ohioWfan

You're a hoot. First you say, "cut the condescension, ok?"
Then you say, "Can you at least try to treat this as a discussion between adults?"

uhmmm What does that make you if you know? Ah forget about it...moving on.

"You cannot accurately compare Pearl Harbor because it was an act of a hostile government and its military. It is entirely different, so our warring against all of Japan cannot be compared with your personal desire to wage war against all Muslims."

I beg to differ. Islam is a govt that controls the nations and the peoples of islam. Terrorists are the armies of islam supported/financed and protected by the govts and the peoples of islam.

Islam is a religion, govt, political entity all in one package. In Dubai the state religion is islam. In Dubai, the govt is islam and the people are ruled under the laws of islam.

If we didn't need their oil, we wouldn't give a rat's arse about them nor we they give a rat's arse about us. In fact, without the oil, there would be no rich sheiks financing terror. They would still be wandering nomads in the desert sands.

Sure we must do business with them for their oil since it is a vital necessity to our economy. For that, they hold us hostage.

But that doesn't mean we have to or should now allow them to run terminals at our strategic ports at a time we are at war with some of their brethren. We just don't have the time nor the means to sort them all out.


303 posted on 03/11/2006 8:25:22 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: ohioWfan

---We obviously will have to wait and see how it pans out, but IMO, it has hurt far more than it has helped. Not to the point of losing the Senate or the House perhaps, but definitely to the point of losing seats, and more importantly the respect of their constituents.---

There has got to be a price for the sort of blundering idiocy displayed by Republican members of Congress. They largely failed to support our President and supported policy that hurt our country in order to APPEAR to be concerned about the country's security.

There has got to be a price for that and that price is my vote. I sent my Republican Congressman an email stating that while I would not vote for his opponents I would not vote for him either. Not for the 2006 election.


304 posted on 03/11/2006 8:32:53 AM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: takenoprisoner
First you say, "cut the condescension, ok?" Then you say, "Can you at least try to treat this as a discussion between adults?"

You have a problem with logic, do you? You are condescending, and I am asking you to understand that thinking adults can differ on this issue. Since I am, however, in your view, 'a hoot' I can see no sane reason for me to continue this discussion, other than reiterating that the government sponsored, military attack on the U.S. by the Japanese was notably different than the terrorist attack on the U.S. on 9/11.

You may argue that they are similar in some ways, but you cannot make the case that we should attack all Muslim nations because their governments attacked us. It is far more complex an issue and a war than you are making it out to be.

Thanks for the discussion though. I'm glad I amused you.

305 posted on 03/11/2006 8:36:30 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: claudiustg
The problem that we are dealing with, is that, if we don't vote for the Republicans in November because they hurt the President on this deal, we hurt him even more by having them replaced by Rats, who will support him on nothing at all.

My Congressman is not running again, and I have had plenty of correspondence and phone-calling our two weak-kneed Senators.

Their weakness has put us in a serious predicament, in that, the only way to support the President and his policies is to forgive the idiocy of the Congress. They've made a big mess out of everything.

306 posted on 03/11/2006 8:40:06 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Almondjoy
"the American public are the fools."

The American people own the place, the president is just our chauffeur. If he doesn't like following our instructions he can go work somewhere else.

307 posted on 03/11/2006 8:42:32 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Rockitz
"These are the innocents. They are basically children of their culture and know no other way."

If ripping the heads off of unarmed strangers in the middle of the street sounds normal to you...then you are not innocent... you are a barbaric savage.
308 posted on 03/11/2006 8:46:34 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA
If ripping the heads off of unarmed strangers in the middle of the street sounds normal to you...then you are not innocent... you are a barbaric savage.

And what percentage of Muslims are engaged in this kind savagery? 0.3%? There is a much higher percentage of inner city kids in our country involved in violence.

309 posted on 03/11/2006 8:55:18 AM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: D.P.Roberts
With that type of protectionist thinking, no one can be our friend. As a matter of fact, it is that type of protectionist thinking that keeps our enemies from becoming our friends.</p>

Actually, the UAE has come a long way towards building good relations with the world of nations as a global entity.

Many people cite the UAE's involvement in shipping nuclear technology, heavy water, and etc to Iran and Pakistan. This charge fails to say that such shipments did not originate in the UAE and had passed through several ports along the way.

People also cite that two of the 9/11 hijackers came from the UAE. Big deal. The hijackers could have come from our own country for that matter.

The UAE, if given the patience and continued good relations, may even become the United Arab Emirate States, a democracy.
310 posted on 03/11/2006 9:03:25 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: Soul Seeker
There are no moderate Arabs.

Have you ever been outside the U.S.? Ever served alongside Arabs who risked their lives for the same cause as you?

No, I suppose not.

311 posted on 03/11/2006 9:08:28 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: Peach
It's about the Saddam tapes that have been ignored despite a direct order from the President of the United States.

Thanks for the link.

The so-called direct order from the President that you mention is not quoted in the article.

312 posted on 03/11/2006 9:36:08 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Bush told Hadley to expedite the release of the Iraq documents. "This stuff ought to be out. Put this stuff out." The president would reiterate this point before the meeting adjourned. And as the briefing ended, he approached Pence, poked a finger in the congressman's chest, and thanked him for raising the issue. When Pence began to restate his view that the documents should be released, Bush put his hand up, as if to say, "I hear you. It will be taken care of."


313 posted on 03/11/2006 9:43:44 AM PST by Peach
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To: Rockitz
"They are basically children of their culture and know no other way."

I understand where you're coming from here. It's the ideology we're fighting, not the people. We've cured some rotten ideologies in the past. The point is, they're going to have to abandon their culture. It preaches death.

Our other past successful wars have followed a general pattern:

1) Identify the enemy

2) Attack all infrastructure, supply-lines, and outside sources of support

3) Engage the enemy military

4) Demoralize non-combatants

5) Isolate the command structure

6) Obtain unconditional surrender

7) Help with the rebuilding process

There are some very real psychological reasons that these steps need to be executed in order. By engaging in the 'hearts-and-minds' campaign before the enemy is defeated, we're setting ourselves up for failure.

The tragic part of this is that the ideology that needs to be destroyed is wrapped-up in their faith. For a full surrender to be made, all of their Mullahs will have to denounce Mohammed's rants about killing infidels. Those verses will need to be stricken from the Quran, IMO. The actual shooting may temporarily subside, but until that's done, Islamists will carry on to the eventual aim that we're all either converts, slaves, or dead.

314 posted on 03/11/2006 9:53:14 AM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Peach
Bush told Hadley to expedite the release of the Iraq documents. "This stuff ought to be out. Put this stuff out." The president would reiterate this point before the meeting adjourned. And as the briefing ended, he approached Pence, poked a finger in the congressman's chest, and thanked him for raising the issue. When Pence began to restate his view that the documents should be released, Bush put his hand up, as if to say, "I hear you. It will be taken care of."

Yes I stand corrected (Earlier in the article similar words were not quoted).

One scenario is that Bush had his mind changed after the meeting by Negroponte. Negroponte is a Bush appointee who is one of the good-guys in Washington. His long record of being on our side has made him an enemy of the left.

Most likely Negroponte advised the President not to release the documents and the President said okay let's not.

315 posted on 03/11/2006 9:58:21 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

I've always liked Negroponte too.

What I don't get is that at first he said there was no historical value. Now he says the tapes provide actionable intelligence. That's quite a turnaround.

And certainly there would be a way to translate the tapes and provide a few more releases like the 12 hours given to ABC. At the very least it would be good for the administration to talk about those 12 hours.

Did you hear the former UN official call into the Sean Hannity show a few weeks ago? He translated the 12 hours of tape for ABC and Congress.

When ABC reported that Saddam said that he warned the US there would be a WMD attack but it wouldn't be from Iraq, the translator from the UN said that he actually translated that Saddam said he threatened the US with a WMD attack and we wouldn't be able to trace it to Iraq because he'd use a proxy.

Now THAT would be something the administration should highlight.


316 posted on 03/11/2006 10:04:43 AM PST by Peach
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To: XJarhead; Soul Seeker
Have you ever been outside the U.S.? Ever served alongside Arabs who risked their lives for the same cause as you? No, I suppose not.

XJarhead, I believe the poster you just responded to was being sarcastic, trying to make the same point that you just made.

Anyway, your above rhetorical question implies that either you or somebody you know has served alongside Arabs who have risked their lives for the same cause.

I think it would do the forum good if you could elaborate on that expericence.

317 posted on 03/11/2006 10:08:35 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Peach
I've always liked Negroponte too. What I don't get is that at first he said there was no historical value. Now he says the tapes provide actionable intelligence. That's quite a turnaround.

Do the underlined statements contradict each other? I'm not sure that it does.

I do know that all along it has been a policy of this administration not to release similar documents because they claim it might embarrass our allies.

Maybe they're afraid of a ports-type inappropriate reaction.

318 posted on 03/11/2006 10:49:28 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

That could be, FreeReign.


319 posted on 03/11/2006 10:55:01 AM PST by Peach
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To: CowboyJay
I'm not sure the time-tested style of carrying out a war will work in this case. Fortunately, the most ideological Islamists are the ones most willing to actively engage in jihad and so make themselves available for their just reward. Since these types are scattered amongst the innocents, the administration's fly paper/magnet strategy in Iraq is the preferred method and has actually worked quite well. Instead of waiting patiently for airfares to the US to drop, the theater and subsequent death in battle are readily available to any jihadist willing to take a half day's ride in the back of a truck to Iraq. Then all we have to do is hope the rest of them divorce how they live their lives from what their faith preaches- kinda like a lot of Christians and Catholics these days, unfortunately.

You are correct. Basic Islamic ideology is incompatible with life in a society based on Judeo-Christian principles and accordingly, needs to be reformed. Relying on hope for reform is a bit too passive. Education is key. We do need to reform their education systems to a secular western style and more importantly, preach the gospel vigorously.
320 posted on 03/11/2006 11:14:59 AM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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