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Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll (69% of Americans Want alternate theories allowed in class)
WorldnetDaily.Com ^ | 03/07/2006

Posted on 03/07/2006 2:34:37 PM PST by SirLinksalot

Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll

Whopping 69 percent of Americans want alternate theories in classroom

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Posted: March 7, 2006 5:00 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A new poll shows 69 percent of Americans believe public school teachers should present both the evidence for and against Darwinian evolution.

The Zogby International survey indicated only 21 percent think biology teachers should teach only Darwin's theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.

A majority of Americans from every sub-group were at least twice as likely to prefer this approach to science education, the Zogby study showed.

About 88 percent of Americans 18-29 years old were in support, along with 73 percent of Republicans and 74 percent of independent voters.

Others who strongly support teaching the strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory include African-Americans (69 percent), 35-54 year-olds (70 percent) and Democrats (60 percent).

Casey Luskin, program officer for public policy and legal affairs with Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture said while his group does not favor mandating the teaching of intelligent design, "we do think it is constitutional for teachers to discuss it precisely because the theory is based upon scientific evidence not religious premises."

The Seattle-based Discovery Institute is the leading promoter of the theory of Intelligent Design, which has been at the center of challenges in federal court over the teaching of evolution in public school classes. Advocates say it draws on recent discoveries in physics, biochemistry and related disciplines that indicate some features of the natural world are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.

"The public strongly agrees that students should be permitted to learn about such evidence," Luskin said.

The Discovery Institute noted Americans also support students learning about evidence for intelligent design alongside evolution in biology class – 77 percent.

Just over half – 51 percent – agree strongly with that. Only 19 percent disagree.

As WorldNetDaily reported, more than 500 scientists with doctoral degrees have signed a statement expressing skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution.

The statement, which includes endorsement by members of the prestigious U.S. National Academy of Sciences and Russian Academy of Sciences, was first published by the Discovery Institute in 2001 to challenge statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series.

The PBS promotion claimed "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."


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KEYWORDS: americans; crevolist; darwin; immaculateconception; poll; scienceeducation; smacked; wingnutdoozy
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To: Senator Bedfellow
Yes, I often contemplate my telephone and think the same thing...

Hah!

Phone numbers are NOTHING!

Just last month, I was flyin' down the interstate when I happened to glance at my odometer.

Was I shocked to see the last 3 digits were all 6's!!

That creeped me out so, that I quickly looked away for a few seconds!

When I calmed down a bit, I looked back and, Thank Heaven!, the numbers were different.


Eeriely, it has happened AGAIN this MONTH!!!!!

Is my car possessed or WHAT?!?

801 posted on 03/09/2006 10:12:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Thatcherite
A thick layer of fat acts as body-armour against light-calibre weapons.

Then Teddy should feel ok, hunting with Cheney.

802 posted on 03/09/2006 10:13:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: b_sharp
There are some areas of the genome where mutations are frequently corrected.

Then how would we know it mutated or not??

803 posted on 03/09/2006 10:14:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: darbymcgill

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804 posted on 03/09/2006 10:15:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: js1138
By the way, you still haven't responded to the question of why ID has let 200 years slip by without looking for any evidence.

Slip by?

The evidence is all around!!

E types only look at 'evidence' they think they can figger out!!

805 posted on 03/09/2006 10:17:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: js1138
By the way, you still haven't responded to the question of why ID has let 200 years slip by without looking for any evidence.

Did you direct that question to me? If so I must have missed it. You would probably be better served by asking one of its many vociferous proponents...

I could hazard a guess if you like. Rather than lack of "intent" there may be a lack of "inventive, creative processing that involves imagination."
806 posted on 03/09/2006 10:20:23 AM PST by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: Elsie
Is my car possessed or WHAT?!?

I don't know about possessed, but you may want to have it baptized. Just have your pastor bless someone's swimming pool, and then immerse your car completely for a few seconds. That ought to keep the odometer from moving...

808 posted on 03/09/2006 10:25:13 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: darbymcgill
shuffle ball, shuffle ball, step, step.... shuffle ball, shuffle ball, ball change, turn...

Glad you have another talent. Dancing is so much easier than thinking.

809 posted on 03/09/2006 10:26:39 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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I guess that explains a few things.


810 posted on 03/09/2006 10:27:46 AM PST by js1138
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To: jec41; SirLinksalot
This one is so easy it barely deserves an answer.

First day science class
Teacher; Science is defined as observation of a fact. Today we are going to study macro-evolution. Has anyone here ever observed one species of animal, like a dog, transforming into a completely different species, like a cat, as a fact?

Class; No sir!!!

Teacher; If it can't be observed as a fact is it science?

Class; No sir!!!!

Teacher; Very good class, the theory of evolution has been disproved as a science and will no longer be considered in this class. Tomorrow we will observe some facts.

Either something is wrong with your definition of "observed as a fact," or the theory of evolution is hereby disproven by your own criteria. Moving on . . .

811 posted on 03/09/2006 10:29:00 AM PST by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Glad you have another talent. Dancing is so much easier than thinking.

Like I've been saying all along... you're the teacher;)

Oh... and check out your tag... I couldn't have said it better than yourself...
812 posted on 03/09/2006 10:35:04 AM PST by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: Elsie
This is the one I like.

9. there are a bunch of physicists and various other scientists who mix things up also. super intelligent.

They are smart. They can make it go.


813 posted on 03/09/2006 10:39:55 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Buggman
Teacher; Science is defined as observation of a fact. Today we are going to study macro-evolution. Has anyone here ever observed one species of animal, like a dog, transforming into a completely different species, like a cat, as a fact?

Not even in a fundie school are teachers stupid enough to think evolution means one species of animal, like a dog, transforming into a completely different species, like a cat. To get that sort of idiocy, one has to come here.

814 posted on 03/09/2006 10:42:33 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Elsie

The most interesting thing about you DU post -- aside from the fact that it violates Jim Robinson's explicit policy of not posting from DU -- is that these threads attract a lot of readership from the political opposition.

If they don't watch out they will catch conservative cooties.


815 posted on 03/09/2006 10:42:52 AM PST by js1138
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To: Right Wing Professor

One strawman deserves another.


816 posted on 03/09/2006 10:52:23 AM PST by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: js1138
it violates Jim Robinson's explicit policy of not posting from DU

Gone already.

817 posted on 03/09/2006 10:54:05 AM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Right Wing Professor
To get that sort of idiocy, one has to come here.

Or watch a Hollywood movie. I'm trying to recall if there has ever been a movie that accurately described evolution. Can't think of any.

I'm even pissed at 2001, with its ID like intervention in human evolution. It's even more explicit in the book.

818 posted on 03/09/2006 10:59:45 AM PST by js1138
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To: Elsie
E types only look at 'evidence' they think they can figger out!!

Whereas C types prefer evidence that they hope no-one can figure out, because then they can just declare "God did it" without contradiction. That works real well, right up until some smartarse scientist *does* figure it out.

819 posted on 03/09/2006 11:25:01 AM PST by Thatcherite (I'm Pat Henry, I'm the real Pat Henry, All the other Pat Henry's are just imitators...)
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To: js1138
. I'm trying to recall if there has ever been a movie that accurately described evolution. Can't think of any.

I saw Angels and Insects on cable the other day. Not one you'd watch with the kiddies (nasty stuff with a hidden plot which is an anagram of insect)... but quite a bit about the philosophical and naturalist opinions of the Darwin era and the meticulous note taking, cataloging, illustrating and observing etc...
820 posted on 03/09/2006 11:25:17 AM PST by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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