Pieces falling into place (Kennewick Man)

Tri-City Herald ^ | February 24th, 2006 | By Anna King, Herald staff writer

[dennisw]

Yes, it was stupid for the gov to destroy the site especially when a lot more was still left to be found.

If I recall correctly this was done because the Indian tribes demanded it. The Army Core of Engineers destroyed the Kennewick Man burial site with bulldozers.

[moog]

I think so too and actually for people on all sides of it. People are getting much too sensitive nowadays and get seemingly offended by anything and I'm not just talking about the purveyors of political correctness.

[Spunky]

"Especially since the Columbia River runs toward the West!"

Not where Kennewick Man was found.

The Columbia River comes down from Canada and when it gets to the Tri-Cities, Pasco, Kennewick, Richland it turns East then loops back to the West. So where he was laid to rest the river is flowing East.

[moog]

If I recall correctly this was done because the Indian tribes demanded it. The Army Core of Engineers destroyed the Kennewick Man burial site with bulldozers.

That's EXACTLY what happened. STUPID, especially when it hadn't been proven that Kennewick Man wasn't their ancestor.

[dennisw]

The tribes laid on the BS very thick. I thought they were going to win in court and keep KM from being examined by scientists

[blam]

Spirit Cave Man is 9,400 years old, 100 years older than Kennewick Man. He is the oldest mummy ever found in the Americas. He was found fully clothed in a cave.

Spirit Cave Man

Spirit Cave Man eked out a life among the oases of an unforgiving desert. He fished in Great Basin lakes, hunted small mammals and wore clothing woven from strips of pelts and marsh plants.

The hunter survived to his mid-40s. But he had broken his right hand and suffered chronic back pain from arthritis, herniated disks and a fracture in his spine. A blow to the left temple dented and cracked his skull, which had just begun to heal when he died, perhaps from that injury or the advanced abscesses in his upper and lower jaws.

He was buried lying on his right side, arm flexed so his hand rested beneath the chin, in a shallow grave dug in a desert cave. The cave's climate preserved patches of skin and reddish-brown shoulder-length hair on the skull, making him North America's oldest mummy. Dried intestines contained fish bones from a final meal.

Also preserved were his rabbit fur robe, two shrouds of woven tule reeds, and well-worn moccasins of three kinds of animal hide, sewn with hemp and sinew, and patched on the soles. Copyright © 1999 Discovery Communications Inc.

[moog]

You are right. Just look at a map.

[Vaduz]

DNA test show related to Vince Foster

[Altamira]

""Scientists have no respect for anything. I had to shut my eyes. It is not a comfortable feeling," said Larena Sohappy, culture committee chairwoman for the Yakama Nation.""

Scientists have respect for uncovering the truth about this guy, dimwit, and not for catering to your need to cover up the fact that other peoples besides "native americans" might have been running around this continent long before you got here, thus depriving you of your claim to "victim" status for having "your" land "stolen" from you.

[moog]

I thought they were going to win too, but I'm glad they didn't.

[Spunky]

...we don't know anymore than we already did..."

We learned that he had actually been buried where he was found and not washed down from some other area.

That means that there must be others here. You are correct that we still don't know his ancestry for sure.

[moog]

Larena, needs to take out the h and the a from her last name.

[Altamira]

" Especially since the Columbia River runs toward the West!"

The Columbia River does a fair amount of winding around; check it out on a map...

[pabianice]

Can you imagine the constant pain he had to live with from a spear head lodged in his pelvis?

[moog]

OUCH!!! He must have had some cahoonas.

[moog]

Yeah, you can't get rivers to go straight at all. They meander around too much.

[blam]

"These African and European markers date back long before that. Clovis was about 10,000 B.C. and the European Solutrean culture which resesmbles it predates Clovis. The African type skulls go back several thousnd years in South America.

Luzia is the skeleton you're talking about, it is now about the third oldest skeleton ever found in the Americas...She is believed to be Australian.

Luzia

Dozens of skeletons have emerged from the caves dotting Lagoa Santa in eastern Brazil, but one in particular has recently caused a stir -- 25 years after it was dug up from a 40-foot-deep pit.

New dating of the bones have determined that Luzia (her name pays homage to the famous African fossil "Lucy," who lived 3.2 million years ago) is the most ancient known American, with remains 11,500 years old.

Luzia died in her early 20s. Although flint tools were found nearby, hers are the only human remains in Vermelha Cave.

The anatomy of her skull and teeth - including a narrow, oval cranium, projecting face and pronounced chin - likens Luzia to Africans and Australasians. Brazilian anthropologists propose that Luzia traveled across the Bering Strait, perhaps following the coastline by boat, from northeast Asia, where her ancestors had lived for tens of thousands of years since exiting Africa. Copyright © 1999 Discovery Communications Inc.

[dennisw]

When I think of American Indians I honor the part Sioux Pappy Boyington. I don't have much respect for their "sovereign nation" nonsense that gives them the right to casinos, tax free sales of tobacco and gasoline, and blocked examination of Kennewick Man.

American Indians don't pay for building and upkeep of roads leading to their casinos nor any roads in the state they live

5. Do Indians pay state taxes? Federally recognized Indians do not pay state income nor property tax if they live and work on reservation or trust land.

[Spunky]

"It would seem to me that in order for the Yakima to claim this person as an ancestor,"

Are you from around here? You know the spelling. It was Yakima all my life and then suddenly it became Yakama

[moog]

When I think of American Indians I honor the part Sioux Pappy Boyington. I don't have much respect for their "sovereign nation" nonsense that gives them the right to casinos, tax free sales of tobacco and gasoline, and blocked examination of Kennewick Man. American Indians don't pay for building and upkeep of roads leading to their casinos nor any roads in the state they live 5. Do Indians pay state taxes? Federally recognized Indians do not pay state income nor property tax if they live and work on reservation or trust land

Good info, thanks. There was one thing I liked about them growing up--they sold good fireworks.