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Last allied witness of WWI Christmas truce dies
Yahoo News ^ | 11/21/05 | By Peter Graff

Posted on 11/21/2005 8:49:17 AM PST by SmoothTalker

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21 posted on 11/21/2005 9:44:11 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: kjenerette

...reading.


22 posted on 11/21/2005 10:02:15 AM PST by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If We Can Keep It!)
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To: chudogg

"I wonder what their opinion of eachother was in 1913?"

--- According to some letters from the time that I've read, many of the commoners weren't sure if they were supporting France or invading France. After all, France is the traditional enemy and the German ruling family were cousins of the English king.


23 posted on 11/21/2005 10:07:03 AM PST by Casekirchen (If allah is really another name for the Judeo-Christian God, why do the islamics pray to a rock?)
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To: ZULU
Found another good 'un


24 posted on 11/21/2005 10:16:07 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Frist would be a great Majority Leader if he had 65 seats..make that 75)
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To: frogjerk

Is that a misprint? Surely they mean holiday truce.


25 posted on 11/21/2005 10:22:44 AM PST by isrul
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To: SmoothTalker
The Nov. 5, 2005, international edition of Le Figaro has an article on WWI and includes a photo of a living English veteran of WWI who is also 109 (born June 6, 1896), Henry Allingham, who is described as a pioneer in the Royal Flying Corps, flying a Sopwith Camel. They also have a photo of a French veteran who is 107 (born October 20, 1898), Ferdinand Gilson.

I guess neither of them were in the trenches in 1914.

26 posted on 11/21/2005 10:30:27 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SmoothTalker
The Nov. 5, 2005, international edition of Le Figaro has an article on WWI and includes a photo of a living English veteran of WWI who is also 109 (born June 6, 1896), Henry Allingham, who is described as a pioneer in the Royal Flying Corps, flying a Sopwith Camel. They also have a photo of a French veteran who is 107 (born October 20, 1898), Ferdinand Gilson.

I guess neither of them were in the trenches in 1914.

27 posted on 11/21/2005 10:37:36 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SmoothTalker
Anyone know how many U.S. WWI veterans are still alive?
28 posted on 11/21/2005 10:37:42 AM PST by Physicist
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To: SmoothTalker

Most inspirational article. I'm feeling all teary and emotional. RIP, brave soldier.


29 posted on 11/21/2005 10:38:04 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

ping for your consideration.


30 posted on 11/21/2005 10:38:42 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: ZULU

In the early days of the war, Richtofen's (Red Baron)Mentor was killed in battle. As the German's held a memorial, a lone French airplane flew into view, circled the crowd and dropped a wreath to honor a fallen foe.

Jeff Shaara has a recent book titled "To The Last Man" that details the rich history of the war to end all wars. Great book.


31 posted on 11/21/2005 10:40:42 AM PST by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: robowombat
Incredible. Thanks for the story.

I have a hunch that we won't be reading about any of this where Jihadists are concerned.

32 posted on 11/21/2005 10:45:19 AM PST by Recovering Hermit
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To: Physicist

When I was a kid (early 1970's) one of my neighbors, an old man by the name of John told me he was a WWI vet. I really wish I had the brains then to really get to know this hero and learn some of his history, but I was only about 10 or 12 so I had an excuse.


33 posted on 11/21/2005 10:46:11 AM PST by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: ErnBatavia

Pickelhauben.

Nice shot.


34 posted on 11/21/2005 11:02:49 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: cyclotic

I have to get that book, thanks.

Richthofen's mentor was Oswald Boelcke who was killed, I believe, in a crash with another German fighterplane.

Boelcke wrote his "dicta" on the proper way to conduct oneself in aircombat as a fighter pilot. Richthofen enlarged on it and the rules are still used by modern pilots.

Richtohfen was killed whne he ignored one of those rules. He was too concerned with getting a kill that he ignored his own safety and was either shot down by a pursuing British pilot or an Australian infantryman - the battle still goes on over that one. But at that stage of the war, Richthofen, like many other young pilots was probably burnt out and may have been in pain from an earlier injury. He had also become rather depressed about all the killing and the loss of his comrades.


35 posted on 11/21/2005 11:11:49 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: SmoothTalker
Christmas in the Trenches

by John McCutcheon

My name is Francis Tolliver, I come from Liverpool.

Two years ago the war was waiting for me after school.

To Belgium and to Flanders, to Germany to here I fought for King and country I love dear.

'Twas Christmas in the trenches, where the frost so bitter hung,

The frozen fields of France were still, no Christmas song was sung

Our families back in England were toasting us that day Their brave and glorious lads so far away.

I was lying with my messmate on the cold and rocky ground

When across the lines of battle came a most peculiar sound

Says I, "Now listen up, me boys!" each soldier strained to hear

As one young German voice sang out so clear.

"He's singing bloody well, you know!" my partner says to me Soon, one by one, each German voice joined in harmony

The cannons rested silent, the gas clouds rolled no more As Christmas brought us respite from the war

As soon as they were finished and a reverent pause was spent

"God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen" struck up some lads from Kent

The next they sang was "Stille Nacht." "Tis 'Silent Night'," says I

And in two tongues one song filled up that sky

"There's someone coming toward us!" the front line sentry cried

All sights were fixed on one long figure trudging from their side

His truce flag, like a Christmas star, shown on that plain so bright

As he, bravely, strode unarmed into the night

Soon one by one on either side walked into No Man's Land

With neither gun nor bayonet we met there hand to hand

We shared some secret brandy and we wished each other well

And in a flare-lit soccer game we gave 'em hell

We traded chocolates, cigarettes, and photographs from home

These sons and fathers far away from families of their own

Young Sanders played his squeezebox and they had a violin

This curious and unlikely band of men

Soon daylight stole upon us and France was France once more

With sad farewells we each prepared to settle back to war

But the question haunted every heart that lived that wonderous night

"Whose family have I fixed within my sights?"

'Twas Christmas in the trenches where the frost, so bitter hung

The frozen fields of France were warmed as songs of peace were sung

For the walls they'd kept between us to exact the work of war

Had been crumbled and were gone forevermore

My name is Francis Tolliver, in Liverpool I dwell

Each Christmas come since World War I, I've learned its lessons well

That the ones who call the shots won't be among the dead and lame

And on each end of the rifle we're the same

36 posted on 11/21/2005 11:18:35 AM PST by mware (Keeper of the I's.)
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To: Physicist
According to a USA Today article, there are eight receiving VA benefits, but there are assumed to be a few dozen others. Probably between 30 and 50 total.

Here's an interesting thing:

Last Living Veterans of America's Wars
American Revolution (1775–1783)

Last veteran, Daniel F. Bakeman, died 4/5/1869, age 109
Last widow, Catherine S. Damon, died 11/11/1906, age 92
Last dependent, Phoebe M. Palmeter, died 4/25/1911, age 90

War of 1812 (1812–1815)

Last veteran, Hiram Cronk, died 5/13/1905, age 105
Last widow, Carolina King, died 6/28/1936, age unknown
Last dependent, Esther A. H. Morgan, died 3/12/1946, age 89
Indian Wars (c. 1861–1898)

Last veteran, Fredrak Fraske, died 6/18/1973, age 101

Mexican War (1846–1848)

Last veteran, Owen Thomas Edgar, died 9/3/1929, age 98
Last widow, Lena James Theobald, died 6/20/1963, age 89
Last dependent, Jesse G. Bivens, died 11/1/1962, age 94

Civil War (1861–1865)

Last Union veteran, Albert Woolson, died 8/2/1956, age 109
Last Confederate veteran, John Salling*, died 3/16/1958, age 112

Spanish-American War (1898)

Last veteran, Nathan E. Cook, died 9/10/1992, age 106

It's amazing to think that our entire history as a nation can spanned in three lifetimes.

37 posted on 11/21/2005 11:38:00 AM PST by Heyworth
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To: Heyworth

I suggested to both the Discovery Channel and the History Channel that they interview the surviving World War 2 fighter pilots and ask them about their breatest air combats, then recreate them in CGI. They ignored me.


38 posted on 11/21/2005 12:00:28 PM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://trss.blogspot.com/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: ErnBatavia
Anyone have a FR story link for those true color photos (series) taken of WWI scenes? I recall it was originally posted on FR well over a year ago.

I recall how incredible it was to see actual color photos of that war and how much more real it felt to me.

And thanks ErnBatavia for posting your find on the Christmas Truce. These days the enemy would cut off your head.

39 posted on 11/21/2005 12:39:32 PM PST by TruthRespecter
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To: Heyworth

The last veteran of the American Revolution died on April 5, 1869. When I was a kid, I knew an old lady who was born on February 8, 1869, so 8 weeks old when the last veteran of the Revolution died.


40 posted on 11/21/2005 1:07:39 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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