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DEMS ARE WARY OF ALITO FIGHT
NEW YORK POST ^ | November 3, 2005 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 11/03/2005 9:18:49 AM PST by kingattax

DEMOCRATS are getting cold feet about starting an abortion fight over Supreme Court nominee Sam Alito — because if they do, they could lose big-time in the court of public opinion. Alito backed a law requiring a woman to notify her husband before an abortion. The Supreme Court disagreed.

But Americans — by a nearly 3-1 majority — agree with Alito, so the fact that he might shift the court could be a plus.

In all, 72 percent of Americans favor spousal-notification laws, according to a 2003 Gallup Poll, and an equally lopsided margin thinks teens under 18 should have to tell their parents before an abortion.

Most Americans want legal abortion, but they want it more restricted. If the abortion debate centers on whether to tell parents or a husband, it's a loser for pro-choice Dems.

So some Dems want to blast Alito on machine guns — he opposed a federal law barring private ownership.

But it was a narrow ruling, and the truth is, Dems seem privately resigned that Alito will be confirmed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dimocrats; scotus
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1 posted on 11/03/2005 9:18:49 AM PST by kingattax
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To: kingattax

They can't win so why fight? They'd just look like babbling fools.............But that never stopped them before.........


2 posted on 11/03/2005 9:21:01 AM PST by Red Badger (Whatever happened to formulas 1 through 408?.........)
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To: kingattax
Georgie nailed them again....

2-0 in the SCOTUS game.

3 posted on 11/03/2005 9:21:39 AM PST by Dog
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To: kingattax

It was amazing how Bush worked so hard to avoid a fight with the Dems in making a Supreme Court pick, and when Bush finally comes around and appoints a paper trail conservative, all the Democratic threats seem to disappear. I guess rats do not like the light of day being shined on them.


4 posted on 11/03/2005 9:21:55 AM PST by Always Right
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To: kingattax
Yes, things continue to go bad for the White House, total disarray, capitulation, ruin, economy in tank; Hillary said yesterday the American Health Care System is totally broken. Woo be me, doom, this is hugh!
5 posted on 11/03/2005 9:21:56 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: kingattax

Like, Duh. But they're telling the wrong "truth". They don't want to set a precedence and have it jammed down their throats when they do have the Whitehouse. It would make them look like "jerks" twice.


6 posted on 11/03/2005 9:23:04 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: kingattax

I like the second part of your link:

" Some Republicans point to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as they question why special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald felt a need to bring perjury charges against ex-White House aide "Scooter" Libby in the CIA leak case.

They note that independent counsel Robert Ray (he replaced Ken Starr) concluded that then-First Lady Clinton made "factually false" statements under oath about her role in Travelgate, but didn't charge her.

In fact, Ray claimed that Clinton had eight chats with top White House aides that contradict her claims of no Travelgate role.

Fitzgerald cites the exact same number of accounts that conflict with Libby's.

There was no basic crime in Travelgate — the Clintons had a right to fire travel staffers.

And Libby isn't charged with illegally outing CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson, nor does the indictment even claim that she was a covert agent. "


7 posted on 11/03/2005 9:24:25 AM PST by frankjr
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To: kingattax
But it was a narrow ruling, and the truth is, Dems seem privately resigned that Alito will be confirmed.

ROTF! The Dems' kook-fringe base isn't gonna like that....

8 posted on 11/03/2005 9:24:36 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: kingattax
The big question is what will Buzzy and Stevens do when they realize their vote really doesn't matter any more?
9 posted on 11/03/2005 9:24:51 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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To: Dog
Georgie nailed them again....

2-0 in the SCOTUS game.

Don't forget Miers...I was a Miers supporter but even I will agree that W "walked" a few DIM batters with that one...Fortunately the other side did not score...W returned with the high heat with Alito pick...

10 posted on 11/03/2005 9:25:12 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: Always Right

you all need to read this post on a lib website I just came across. Put a smile on my face from ear to ear...

Dems MUST Filibuster

Senators Reid, Durbin, Dorgan, Leahy, Schumer, Nelson, Pryor, and Landrieu,

The decisions that are made in the next five to seven days will determine the future of jurisprudence in this country for the next 30 years. Do not let Bush, Rove, and Boyden Gray tactically out maneuver you by playing Alito up in the press as a moderate thinker. The progressive half of this country and the U.S. Senate Democratic Caucus must not allow a president who was installed into office by a 5 to 4 party line Supreme Court vote, to pack the U.S. Supreme Court for the next several generations with an extreme right wing ideologue at the very moment when the country is mourning (from Hurricane Katrina) the death and maiming of the very disadvantaged people who have been thrown away and abandoned by radical right-wing, government-is-always-the-problem economic policies. If Bush, Boyden Gray, Ed Meese, and other right-wing thinkers succeed in packing the Supreme Court this year with a clear Constitution-in-Exile adherent, at the very moment that no holds barred classist and racist extreme-capitalism has been shown to be an ideology that works to forsake the least among us, then something about America and what is good in humanity will indeed have been forsaken forever. Hurricane Katrina happened just a few weeks ago, and conservatives have already completely dismissed it, and moved onto to their ideological dream of taking over the Supreme Court. Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, David Brooks, and a small handful of other inside the Beltway ideologues do not own this entire country.

Every major opinion poll that has been released in the last six months shows that 70% of Americans think that the Democratic Party should fight Bush much more than they currently are. Bush and the GOP have been majorly bloodied by Miers, Libby, Iraq, and gas prices. As Mark Tushnet, Jeffrey Rosen, and other leading progressive legal scholars have made clear on TV and on the internet, Alito is to the right of Scalia and Thomas. THIS NOMINATION IS the battle that will decide the future of the Supreme Court for 20 to 30 years into the future. All of the filibusters for the Appeals courts seats that took place earlier this year will mean nothing if Alito gets on the court. His seat means more than all the Appeals court seats combined. Dems must wage this fight by filibustering. Even if the GOP pulls the nuclear trigger option, Dems will still win the fight, because Alito's authenticity as a validly seated judge will always be questioned because it was done via the nuclear option. A counterfeit nuclear option justice will undermine the extreme right wing's never abating designs on important Warren Court precedents, that should remain part of the American legal system. Dems MUST FILIBUSTER. There is no point in saving the filibuster for a rainy day. The GOP could pull the nuclear trigger at anytime anyway. If not now, when? If not this, what? There will be no better time to take Bush on than now.


11 posted on 11/03/2005 9:25:48 AM PST by marktd
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To: SF Republican
From the article:

And leftist politicians and interest groups have indulged in so much hyperbole over the years that their frenzied denunciations of a Republican president’s Supreme Court nominees has become little more than white noise for the normal American.

Sums it up nicely....the DEMS have railed for so long on so many issues....the public has tuned them right out.

12 posted on 11/03/2005 9:26:19 AM PST by Dog
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To: kingattax
Alito will be confirmed - he's smart, convincing and understands restraint. He's also considered this moment for a long time.

He will be difficult to oppose without sounding like a nut, although that won't stop the left from trying.

13 posted on 11/03/2005 9:27:12 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: mewzilla
. <--- Typical dimocRAT kook-fringe base voter
14 posted on 11/03/2005 9:28:41 AM PST by kingattax
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To: kingattax

They are more apt to go all out when a true left leaning justice is being replaced with a more conservative leaning nominee. The current replacements won't change the court nor the leanings that much I don't believe.


15 posted on 11/03/2005 9:29:01 AM PST by deport
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To: Red Badger
They'd just look like babbling fools...


16 posted on 11/03/2005 9:29:59 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: kingattax
"So some Dems want to blast Alito on machine guns — he opposed a federal law barring private ownership."

What law banning private ownership? There isn't one that I know of.

17 posted on 11/03/2005 9:30:21 AM PST by moasicwolf
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To: Always Right
It was amazing how Bush worked so hard to avoid a fight with the Dems in making a Supreme Court pick, and when Bush finally comes around and appoints a paper trail conservative, all the Democratic threats seem to disappear.

The Miers pick is making less and less sense. Bush got some very bad advice from somebody on that one.

18 posted on 11/03/2005 9:30:57 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Speaking several languages is an asset; keeping your mouth shut in one is priceless.)
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Dems are self-destructive. They'll fight even if it hurts them. They can't help themselves..
19 posted on 11/03/2005 9:32:09 AM PST by skikvt
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To: marktd
Even if the GOP pulls the nuclear trigger option, Dems will still win the fight, because Alito's authenticity as a validly seated judge will always be questioned because it was done via the nuclear option.

That is odd logic. A judges descion can not be questioned. It is not subject to popular opinion. It is not like his vote is going to count less. The Dems would actually be stupid to filibuster simply because it will give the GOP a tool to use against the next Democratic President to stop their SC appointments. The GOP are in position to nuke the filibuster, the Dems probably would not be.

20 posted on 11/03/2005 9:32:40 AM PST by Always Right
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