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Then he has to explain who designed the designer, since he is saying there need be no supernatural explanation.

Hey,,, those are my words and I've been asking that question for a year or more here.

Who designed the designer? And which one of those designers does the Bible refer to? The one that created us or the one that created him????????????????????????? Or Him, or Him?

Hey,,, those are my words and I've been asking that question for a year or more here.

Who designed the designer? And which one of those designers does the Bible refer to? The one that created us or the one that created him????????????????????????? Or Him, or Him?

I know you think this is a brilliant argument, and it would work if there were no possibility of a supernatural designer, but, by the definition of the word, a supernatural designer is not bound by natural, physical laws, since any such designer is the creator of said laws and therefore must exist outside of them. Your argument precludes the possibility of natural designers "all the way down" (e.g., superintelligent aliens that designed our planet and our species) but does nothing against a supernatural one. If, e.g., the God of the Bible designed our universe, as described, he needs no beginning since he exists outside of time (which is physical).

Considering that Jesus Christ was resurrected from the dead, and that Biblical Principles have lead to the finest society in human history, one has to wonder how persons disregard the revelation by the supernatural Creator that, using the words ancient men, answer our modern scientific inquiries about reality.

The Creator of our universe has revealed the truth regarding your question in His message. A non-linear Creator must be outside our time domain. Your linear attempts to define that which is eternal, reveal that modern physics has gone over your head.

Isa 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity,

Only the one who has the power to create the universe, and supernaturally resurrect from the dead can make the below claim truthfully.

Isa 43:10 Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Remember, a majority of the most honorable people of the last 2000 years, dedicated their lives to serving Jesus Christ.