Posted on 10/11/2005 5:30:20 AM PDT by conservativecorner
I think Miers deserves an up or down vote. I just think it should be a down vote. That's all.
Bush should not have chosen her. He jumped her over a bunch of men and women who paid their dues and endured the slings and arrows of liberal lawyerdom, then told us "trust me."
Not an effin' chance.
Yep she stays behind on the court. So for sure let's get Coulter etal to slam her as best we can... so that she's good and alienated with the right. We wouldn't want a friend on the court. We want to make sure that she loaths the way we treated her prior to her confirmation. Yeah... that's the smart thing to do.
Ah so you relish your role as a political whore.
A bit of an overstatement, imo. Conservatives still revere Reagan, despite two DISASTROUS SCOTUS picks. Conservatives still lambast Bush I, despite one TERRIFIC SCOTUS pick--they won't forgive him for Souter. (The pick was very very weak.)
Conservatives need to take a breath--listen to Miers, and if she turns out to be a reliable Constitutionalist on the court, I would like to see a full-page ad expressing an apology to the President and Ms. Miers. (It won't happen.)
One thing is for sure: Bush ought to be right about her, having known her for so many years. Another thing is for sure: abandoning the most conservative of the two parties isn't good for anyone: liberals routinely put up liberals on the courts. Surrender to liberals means liberal courts forever.
Very diplomatic of you!
"A Gallup Poll shows only 58% of conservatives supported Miers"
"How many conservatives are really doing the "right thing" and
waiting to make their final decisions on her after she has spoken at her hearings?"
The point is that the nomination is seen as so bad to conservatives that the nomination never should have happened. She will be confirmed, there's no big secret there. This IS NOT ABOUT PROCESS ie if she doesn't say anything stupid she is confirmed. She will be confirmed I concede that.
The point is that a great many conservatives realize they have been betrayed...the Gallop Poll shows that.
LOL. I'm not confused at all. (Thanks for your concern about my mental state.)
The underlying question is whether people can block the President's nominee. Both Krauthammer and Kristol felt the President's nominees deserved a vote.
Kennedy had the solid conservative credentials that everyone is clamoring for. (Wasn't he the replacement for Ginsburg, who was the replacement for Bork?)
In fact, if the Kennedy of then had been nominated instead of Miers, all of the elite conservatives would be happy. They'd think they had their guy.
Instead, Kennedy changed when he got lifetime tenure. Are their sleepers out there? You bet.
I had one guy put some lady lawyer named "Mahoney" on the list of acceptable conservatives who are supposed to be FAR BETTER than Miers. I looked up her on google and hidden in one of the links was the info that she was the lawyer who LED AND WON the Michigan State Affirmative Action case for the Democrats. Asked how that squared with her conservatism she replied that she was very comfortable WITH the result.
Sleeper?
Hmmmmm.......
We need friends on the court. Not enemies.
Many conservatives are dumber than a box of rocks ...
Then why is such a vocal minority willing to throw stones at the President's nominee before the hearings?
Do they have a secret death wish and hope to be killed by an errant stone flung by one of their fellow "revolutionaries"*?
*Frum likened this to an uprising.
Not an effin' chance
Where in the US Constitution does it spell out that there is a definate career track one must follow before going on SCOTUS?
I find it refreshing that GWB picked someone who is outside the judge bubble and has real experience in the legislative branch(Dallas city council) and in the Executive branch(GW Bush administration).
BTW, Ms. Meirs seems to know that the 2nd amendment is an individual right, unlike conservative judge bubble rock star, Robert Bork.
Oh yeah, look at all those titanium backbones in the conservative controlled Senate. This notion that conservatives are owed something reeks like New Orleans on a sunny day.
It would have been smarter for these pundits to have written to Bush privately about their objections to Miers.
That's the difference - I care about conservatives winning - not Republicans. If Republicans sell out there conservative principals (as they have done timae & time again lately), what is the point of having them in power???
You think she's so petty that she'd rule against conservatives because we're "mean" to her? Where is that found in the Constitution?
You have a lot of faith in this strict constructionist. Hah!
You gotta step into the real world. People are people. This is a political court. Making enemies on it is just plain stupid. You can stand on ideological philosophy all day... but in the end you want people who will vote the way you want them to. Demonizing them is not a great way to get that to happen.
"Then why is such a vocal minority willing to throw stones at the President's nominee before the hearings?"
Because despite the fanfare and bluster, she will be confirmed, the hearings are meaningless (most of the Dems will vote for her). She should never have been up there in the first place.
"a vocal minority"....lmao , nearly 50% according to Gallop, that is the death knell...Terrrible selection.
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