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Race fears spark St. George ban (Muslim criminals against English flag)
cnn ^ | October 4, 2005

Posted on 10/04/2005 9:54:28 AM PDT by Mount Athos

British prison officers who wore a St. George's Cross tie-pin have been ticked off by the jails watchdog over concerns about the symbol's racist connotations.

The pins showing the English flag -- which has often raised hackles due to its connection with the Crusades of the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries -- could be "misconstrued," Chief Inspector of Prisons Anne Owers said in a section on race in a report on a jail in the northern English city of Wakefield.

The banner of St. George, the red cross of a martyr on a white background, was adopted for the uniform of English soldiers during the military expeditions by European powers to recapture the Holy Land from Muslims, and later became the national flag of England.

A section on race relations in Owers' report said: "We were concerned to see a number of staff wearing a flag of St. George tie-pin.

"While we were told that these had been bought in support of a cancer charity there was clear scope for misinterpretation, and Prison Service Orders made clear that unauthorized badges and pins should not be worn."

As one of her formal recommendations Owers said: "Staff should not wear unauthorized badges or pins."

Chris Doyle, director of the Council for the Advancement of Arab-British Understanding, said Tuesday the red cross was an insensitive reminder of the Crusades.

"Muslim or Arab prisoners could take umbrage if staff wore a red cross badge. It's also got associations with the far-right. Prison officers should be seen to be neutral."

Doyle added that it was now time for England to find a new flag and a patron saint who is "not associated with our bloody past and one we can all identify with."

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To: MadIvan

I'd like to take Mr Chris Doyle to the Tower of London and order him "one of each".


41 posted on 10/04/2005 10:41:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Pyro7480; Mount Athos; Red Badger; Sthitch; dighton; metmom; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
then they should see the flag of the City of London!

I guess their work to remove 'offensive' symbols isn't finished. Ugh.

Excellent flag! Thanks for the pic!

42 posted on 10/04/2005 10:41:48 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Mount Athos

If they don't like the flag they can leave the country. (No, they probably couldn't think of that themselves)


43 posted on 10/04/2005 10:42:43 AM PDT by hyperkitty (DON'T PANIC)
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To: denydenydeny
It's your own country's flag! What the hell is wrong with these people?

It's that leftie self-loathing and they're working hard to ram it down the throats of the rest of us, too.

44 posted on 10/04/2005 10:43:32 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Red Badger

Actually, I make chainmaille, and am currently making myself a shirt. Hhhmmm...I think I will now have to get colored rings and do a cross on it. By the way, the garment that was worn over the chainmaille by the Crusader's is called a tabard.

Yes, I used to be an SCA weenie until I discovered Cowboy Action Shooting, sold the SCA stuff, and bought more guns. I will say, thanks to the SCA I am very good with the 55 lb. recurve bow I still own, and can hit the kill area on foam animal targets of foxes and larger animals at 40 yard with no sights on the bow.


45 posted on 10/04/2005 10:44:53 AM PDT by RobertP
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To: Red Badger
Okay, 1/3 of a Union Jack!.......

LOL...

46 posted on 10/04/2005 10:45:33 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Pyro7480

Send in Monty Python to soften them up.

47 posted on 10/04/2005 10:46:48 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: fortunecookie

I read that the sword represents the sword the beheaded St. Paul.


48 posted on 10/04/2005 10:46:59 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Blessed Pius IX, pray for us!)
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To: angkor; Mount Athos
Just yesterday some Brit Moos forced a company to have its employees remove stuffed Winnie The Poohs and Piglets from their desks. The characters were "insulting".

And they're bending over and taking it! Or at least the lefties are and they're trying to make everyone go along. Tossing out the baby and the bathwater.

Yes, Piglet and Pooh are next to get the ax. Disgusting.

49 posted on 10/04/2005 10:48:05 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Mount Athos

What's wrong with the Crusades??

After getting kicked around and invaded in Spain, France, Sicily, southern Italy, and harassed on pilrimage in the Holy Land, some good European Christians decided to get together and kick some Muslim butt.

The Muslims deserved it.

So what's the problem?

If they don't like it, let them go back whereever they came from.

Engalnd is still a Christian Country with an established church - a Christian Church.


50 posted on 10/04/2005 10:48:51 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: RobertP
...and can hit the kill area on foam animal targets of...

Try foam terrorists! Much more fun! OBL, Zarqawi, Pelosi, etc.......

51 posted on 10/04/2005 10:51:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: Red Badger

Oh, I have life size head targets of OBL and Saddam that I use for long range rifle shooting.


52 posted on 10/04/2005 10:59:31 AM PDT by RobertP
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To: Red Badger

Foam terrorists, not bad but I would much prefer shooting the real thing.


53 posted on 10/04/2005 10:59:48 AM PDT by hyperkitty (DON'T PANIC)
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To: Mount Athos
Don't blame the Muslims, blame the establishment that brought and keeps them there. It's only natural that when a population is replaced the new population will get rid of the now meaningless symbols of the old order.
54 posted on 10/04/2005 11:20:23 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: Mount Athos
Christianity alone is offensive don't you people get it? When you remove that cross do you think that will be the end of it?

"recapture the Holy Land from Muslims" Exactly, the Crusades were a response to decades of Islamic rape, theft, murder and torture.

People don't understand that. In fact there are professors teaching that Christianity simply got a bug in their butts and went on a rampage....apparently not to offend Muslims. SOME people are more worried about offending someone than speaking the truth.
55 posted on 10/04/2005 11:31:04 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: Pyro7480
I read that the sword represents the sword the beheaded St. Paul.

I should think they'd like the 'beheading a Christian' aspect. But I'm sure it has another meaning for Londoners.

56 posted on 10/04/2005 12:02:58 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: pbrown
...till England can only be found in history books which nobody will read!I'm American, but my ancestors are British as far back as I can go. I love Britain and Britons, and it's time to remember that these Muslims are newcomers. It is they who must prove themselves, not Britain. It is they who must accommodate, not the Britons. England can accommodate itself out of existence.
57 posted on 10/04/2005 12:10:32 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: Mount Athos

The liberators of Bergen-Belsen came under the Union Jack, which incorporates the St. George Cross.
To hell with this whining dhimmi Doyle and all other appeasers and collaborators.
The ghosts of a million British soldiers will rise from graves all over the world to curse them for their stupidity and weakness.


58 posted on 10/04/2005 1:13:48 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: Pyro7480

I think that I might actually like that one better.


59 posted on 10/04/2005 1:14:03 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mount Athos
What a Maroon!


60 posted on 10/04/2005 1:17:17 PM PDT by sono
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