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Fritz Hollings Connected Iraq To 9/11 [Who Woulda Thunk It]
Captains Quarters ^ | April 28, 2005 | Captain Ed

Posted on 08/29/2005 5:43:39 AM PDT by conservativecorner

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To: Peach
Because they post hit and run comments, and can't back up their talking points. Typical. Have you seen this yet? It's priceless.
21 posted on 08/29/2005 7:19:11 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: conservativecorner
the World Trade Center went first, then the Pentagon, and the White House would likely have followed if the heroes of Flight 93 had not caused the terrorists to down the plane in Pennsylvania.

The National Geographic special that aired last week suggested that a captured al qaeda opperative (KSM, if memory serves) said that flight 93 was targeting the U. S. Capital Building. Not that it really matters.

22 posted on 08/29/2005 7:22:48 AM PDT by lwd
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To: Peach

Not trying to defend RepMNT here, s/he is probably a troll worthy of zotting, but the Bush Administration unfortunately does seem more than content on letting the lies regarding Saddam's connection to 9-11 go unchallenged.


23 posted on 08/29/2005 7:33:05 AM PDT by lwd
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To: lwd

I agree they could/should do more about getting the message out.


24 posted on 08/29/2005 7:49:27 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Will check that later...could use a good laugh. Leaving shortly.


25 posted on 08/29/2005 7:50:18 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: sam_paine

I have a few more minutes to answer more completely now.

The article in the July 2001 Iraqi newspaper indicates that America will be hurting on the arm that was hurting. IMO, that means New York and is a reference to the first WTC bombing in '93.

Also, for me anyway, when I think of Frank Sinatra, the only song that comes to mind is New York, New York. If, as an American, that is the song that comes to mind for me, I can well imagine that for foreigners, who would know even less about Sinatra, that is their allusion also.


26 posted on 08/29/2005 8:07:58 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: massgopguy
Don't forget that a Clinton appointed Federal Judge in Manhatten found Saddam Hussien complicit in the 9-11 attacks to the tune of $300 million.

Great. When and where? Where do I find an article on this?

27 posted on 08/29/2005 8:36:13 AM PDT by TBP
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To: ravingnutter

Great work digging up al those links.

Do you know where Zarqawis' organization, which is an Al Qaeda affiliate, was founded? Do you know where its headquarters was before the war?

Answer to both: Baghdad.


28 posted on 08/29/2005 8:40:50 AM PDT by TBP
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To: ravingnutter

Thank you for all the good work you've done in collecting these links.

The last couple of days, I have been pondering the theory that Iraq tried to enlist the Al Qaeda "planes" group for an attack on the RFE/Radio Liberty headquarters in Prague. The Iraqi government could have had contact with the planes group through Ahmed Shakir, who apparently attended the group meeting in Kuala Lumpur in 2000. We know that Mohammed Atta made two trips to Prague in late May - early June 2000. The first was an apparently pointless plane trip - he had no visa to enter the Czech Republic - and Atta could have been scouting out the possibility of using a plane to attack the RFE headquarters.

We also know that Ramzi Binalshibh, the prospective hijacker who couldn't obtain a visa for the U.S., was in Yemen in September - October 2000, and is suspected of having been a participant in the attack against the U.S.S. Cole. Binalshibh, being unable to participate in the U.S. plot, may have been tasked with attacking RFE, either with a plane or a truck bomb. The alleged Atta/Al-Ani meeting occurred on April 9, 2001. Al-Ani, the Iraqi operative in Prague, was thrown out by the Czech government on April 22, 2001. Binalshibh made his last unsuccessful attempt to obtain an entry visa to the U.S. in May, 2001.


29 posted on 08/29/2005 10:54:29 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: lwd

RepMNT - lemme guess, the MN stands for MINNESOTA!

Party line in Minnesota (read Ninnie-apolis) - there was no connection between AQ and Iraq. First commandment in Ninnie-apolis - Thou shalt not deviate from the talking points of DU, MoveOn.org, the DNC, etc.


30 posted on 08/29/2005 11:07:39 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: lwd
"the Bush Administration unfortunately does seem more than content on letting the lies regarding Saddam's connection to 9-11 go unchallenged"

I know, this bothers me a great deal, as I'm sure it does everyone here (except for the occasional DU-troll who spouts the lies). Why isn't this administration doing a far better and far more thorough job in the battle over left-wing propaganda??? The onslaught of the left has reached far into the 'mainstream' of our political life, like a storm surge from a hurricane.... the only good reasons I can think of for the Bush administration to hold their fire are: (1) protecting intel sources (but at some point the serious damage to public perceptions becomes a far greater issue, since the left is making it nearly impossible politically to take other firm steps in the War on Terror, which is their intention); (2) Holding fire until enough of the Demagogic Party has gone on record repeatedly with demonstrably false and stupid statements about Iraq, Bin Laden, and the WOT. Should be easy to permanently discredit just about all of the leadership of the Demagogic Party and much of the MSM by now.....!!! Anyway, I'm sick of seeing the lies of the left adequately countered by people with the prominence and the knowledge to make an effective counter-reply. What's going on?
31 posted on 08/29/2005 11:13:17 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: popdonnelly
The planning for the RFE attack actually began in 1998:

The United States also began broadcasting anti-Hussein messages into Iraq via Radio Free Iraq. The broadcasts were housed in the Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty headquarters in Prague. The first broadcast went out on October 30, 1998. The Iraqis were furious and threatened retaliation. On November 8, 1998, a commentator on Iraqi state television insisted the broadcasts would do nothing to affect the "jihad spirit" of the Iraqis. A statement three days later from Saddam's Baath party called on Muslims to be steadfast in the ongoing Mother of All Battles and to undertake "unprecedented heroisms" to fight the Zionists and Crusaders. And then, a call for attacks:

All living capabilities of the Arab nation should be toward the unity of the pan-Arab [world] and toward escalating the struggle to the highest levels of jihad. . . . The escalation of the confrontation and the disclosure of its dimensions and the aggressive intentions now require an organized, planned, influential and conclusive enthusiasm against U.S. interests.

This was not, apparently, just bluster. The Iraqi regime wired $150,000 to an account in Prague, according to Jabir Salim, the man on the receiving end. Salim was the Iraqi station chief in the Czech Republic and with the money he received an order: Recruit a young Islamic radical to blow up the headquarters of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. Salim had difficulty finding someone to commit the martyrdom operation, he told British Intelligence after defecting to the West when the U.S. launched Operation Desert Fox--a series of cruise missile attacks on Iraqi targets--on December 16, 1998. Salim also told interrogators that the Iraq-al Qaeda relationship had intensified after the August 1998 embassy bombings and that the Iraqi Intelligence station in Pakistan served as the hub of Iraq-al Qaeda activity.

The Mother of All Connections - Page 2

In November, Czech Prime Minister Milos Zeman added another element to the story. He said that when Czech intelligence determined Atta had contacted Al-Ani, it raised the “hypothesis” that the purpose of the meeting might be to discuss an attack on the Prague the headquarters for U.S.-funded Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

This hypothesis was based on information provided by Jabir Salim in December 1998. Salim, like Al-Ani, had been the Iraq Consul in Prague, and had defected. When debriefed by western intelligence services, he revealed that Iraq had been planning a car bombing of Radio Free Europe. So when al-Ani took Salim’s place at the Iraq Embassy, Czech intelligence assumed that he might be continuing that mission, which accounted for the surveillance on al-Ani.

Source

32 posted on 08/29/2005 11:33:54 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Enchante; popdonnelly
Hmmmm...I don't know about this source (and oddly enough, this is from Sept 2001) but...

The German authorities have established that Atta telephoned and met bin Laden associates living or passing through Germany. The nature of the German evidence for this is still unclear. Atta was a careful user of the telephone, walking to call centres and public booths rather than using his own phone. The CIA says, however, that it tracked him [Atta]on a buying spree in Frankfurt between January and May 2000 as he purchased chemicals essential to making bombs.

Atta and another hijacker, Mawan al-Shehhi, had contacts with Mamoun Darkazanli, a Syrian businessman, who has had his financial assets frozen by the Bush Administration. Mr Darkazanli, an exporter based in Hamburg, had power of attorney over the German account of Mamduhu Mahmud Salim, who the United States believes is the European financial chief of the bin Laden group.

Mr Salim was arrested in Munich in 1998 on a US warrant and extradited to America, where he is awaiting trial on charges of membership of a terrorist organisation as well as the attempted murder of a prison guard.

Mr Darkazanli was not answering his telephone yesterday and his small office was closed. He has, however, denied terrorist involvement and the German authorities have not issued an arrest warrant. Mr Darkazanli has admitted knowing Atta and since the businessman's name is on Mr Salim's bank documents, police believe they have made at least a tentative connection.

The International Post

33 posted on 08/29/2005 11:41:49 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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Thanks, I'm familiar with this. RFE moved to Prague in 1998. The Iraqis evidently weren't too smart in hiding their intentions. I'm hoping more evidence will come out.


34 posted on 08/29/2005 11:44:14 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: conservativecorner
A picture is worth a thousand words.


35 posted on 08/29/2005 11:49:16 AM PDT by jpl
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To: ravingnutter

Mamoun Darkazanli was an Al Qaeda financier also linked to the Muslim Brotherhood. US intel has foolishly regarded Muslim Brotherhood as somehow less radical and has not pursued them with vigor. Both Mohammed Atta and his scumbag father are said to go way back with Muslim Brotherhood, which like Al Qaeda dreams of a world-wide 'Caliphate' of Islamo-fascist rule.


http://www.madcowprod.com/11052004issue.html

http://www.madcowprod.com/Darkaz.htm

“Darkazanli, 44… is identified by intelligence officials in Hamburg as a longtime member of the Syrian wing of the ultra-radical Muslim Brotherhood…”

“Darkazanli nevertheless has a history of associations with high-level Al Qaeda figures going back at least to 1993, the year he told police he first met Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, described by U.S. prosecutors as a "founding member" of Al Qaeda who once tried to acquire nuclear weapons for Osama bin Laden. In 1995, police files show, Darkazanli opened a joint bank account in Hamburg with Salim, who allegedly specialized in setting up bin Laden-owned companies in Sudan… At the time of his arrest Salim had Darkazanli's number programmed into his cell phone.”


36 posted on 08/29/2005 11:56:17 AM PDT by Enchante
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Darkazanli is linked to not only Atta's cell but to Mamdouh Mahmud Salim and Wadi el-Hage, two TOP Al Qaeda dudes. Salim is the low-life who stabbed a prison guard in the eye with a sharpened comb in NYC..... none of these people should still be breathing good air.


http://www.madcowprod.com/Darkaz.htm

Darkazanli nevertheless has a history of associations with high-level Al Qaeda figures going back at least to 1993, the year he told police he first met Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, described by U.S. prosecutors as a "founding member" of Al Qaeda who once tried to acquire nuclear weapons for Osama bin Laden.

In 1995, police files show, Darkazanli opened a joint bank account in Hamburg with Salim, who allegedly specialized in setting up bin Laden-owned companies in Sudan. Darkazanli told the police the account had been created for the purchase of a radio transmitter to be shipped to Sudan, where bin Laden then had his headquarters.

Cell phone link to bin Laden

Bin Laden was expelled by the Sudanese and fled to Afghanistan before the deal could be completed. Salim was arrested in Munich in 1998 at the request of the U.S., which had charged him with conspiring "to kill Americans worldwide." At the time of his arrest Salim had Darkazanli's number programmed into his cell phone.

Salim is awaiting trial in New York on charges of attempted murder, stemming from an attack on a prison guard with a sharpened comb.

"I only had business relations with those people," Darkazanli told the police, referring to Salim and another former top bin Laden associate, Wadi el-Hage, serving a life sentence in the U.S. for the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.


37 posted on 08/29/2005 12:06:57 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

Got to keep two different Salim names separate (but are they related to each other??): there is Jabir Salim who worked for IRAQ and there is Mamdouh Mahmud Salim who is unquestionably AL QAEDA.... both are linked to Mamoun Darkazanli!! But are they also linked to each other??


38 posted on 08/29/2005 12:14:22 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: ravingnutter

Mamdouh Mahmud Salim was born in..... IRAQ!!

http://profilesinterror.mindswap.org/;http://counterterror.mindswap.org/2005/terrorists.owl/Mamdouh_Mahmud_Salim

How recently did he live in Iraq, and what are his possible ties to Saddam's intel agencies, etc.?? He is a MAJOR Al Qaeda figure....


39 posted on 08/29/2005 12:17:57 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: conservativecorner

BTTT


40 posted on 08/29/2005 12:20:20 PM PDT by lunarbicep (praying for our Gulf coast neighbors)
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