Posted on 07/27/2005 6:55:16 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy
I know, I know...vanity!
I just heard about this show last night on O'Reilly. Steven Bochco promised a show with no politics that accurately covers what's going on in Iraq. The clips I've seen have looked great!
Ha...you must have been there the same time my hubby was there....did you see all the Chinooks?...he was/is 1sg for one of those units....do you remember when that Chinook with 22 aboard was shot down in Nov 03...that was his unit.......
Just finished watching the whole disappointing thing. Some cute dialog, but for anyone who was in combat it was like fingernails on the chalkboard. Combat scenes were unrealistic -- no one watches as people shoot straight at you, and those rounds make noise when they cut through the air near you. Plus, soldiers do not prance around. Possibly they should have tried to find some straight actors....
They'd have been much better off making the troops USAR or USANG.
On further thought, Gunner Palace is only a mild recommend. There's too much rap music for my taste. There's all sorts of soldiers with all sorts preferences. I saw more gospel choirs than free form rappers, but your mileage might vary. Gunner Palace is anti-war in slant, but it is a more comprehensive and realistic look at a soldier's life in Iraq.
I bought it because it supports Fisher House - because I have use for snippets of it from time to time - and because I was in that palace BEFORE they fixed the swimming pool!
Really ... rent it first. Compared to OVER THERE, it's a much more realistic picture.
WARNING .... it has VERY strong (read foul) language. NOT for children!!!
From guys smoking pot on base to American liberty being equated to Abu Ghraib, I felt I was watching another Hollywood depiction of the Vietnam War. Negativity and lack of respect amongst the troops ran rampant throughout the show. Was there anything patriotic about this film? Amazing how inept and poorly trained they portrayed our guys and gals...like incompetents, or psychopaths (was Jimmy Massey=Dim?)
BTW--I didn't see any of Saddam's mass graves.
I agree. I don't think this show was made to show you soldiers (thank you, btw!) how it is over there, but to give us civilians a glimpse. So far, most of the characters have been painted sympathetically. I did not see any PC feel good stuff. I almost threw up twice. Now, come on, if you saw some of the things up close and personal, for real, that I saw tonight, didn't it at least make you queasy?
I saw a bunch of people doing their jobs. I liked how some of the characters explained why they joined up. I did not hear one soldier say he joined cos he liked to kill people.
I'll give it a 7, Dick, it had a good story but the music- you couldn't dance to that music!
The program clearly shows the emptiness of Steven Bacchico's soul. They just don't get it, they never will.
I remember....that was the day I flew in courtesy of NY Air National Guard C-130, doing a very serious corkscrew...we didn't know about the Chinook until we got on the ground, but that explained the evasive manuevers.
Yeah, those guys were headed to Qatar for in theater R&R as I recall.
I was tempted to...but like watching a train wreck, I had to see more. I could've sworn I'd seen much of this before, oh yeah, it was "Buffalo Soldiers". Disrespectful portrayal of the troops...very.
LOL--good one. Any of you homos touch me or my stuff...(quoting Psycho isn't hate speech, is it?)
At least Stripes showed the military as a means for undisciplined losers to get a leg up...
No. But I always dreaded the trips I had to make to the mortuary...collateral duty...even though I wasn't doing the ID of the bodies, just expediting the certificates for the families back home.
End of November I was on a detail to clean out a SUV after a sniper blew a guy's brains out in it.
I don't get queasy easily.
Understood. Thanks again.
Agree, show makes one think Abu Ghraib must've been worse than life under Saddam...at least those guys left the prison with their heads on. Where's Spc. Matt Maupin?
I can vouch for that. As a left-hander I've had more than my share of hot brass down my sleeve!
I was absolutely amazed at how well soldiers actually performed in the presence of multiple traumatic injuries. I was personally on the scene of several mass casualty events just after they occurred - with the wounded and with those who responded to the attacks. The professionalism of the the first responders (the soldiers on the scene), the medics and the NCO and officer leadership was astounding. There was no panic. Training (and courage) kicked in and people did what they were supposed to do. The courage of the severely wounded and dying was even more inspring. I heard similar stories (and ONLY similar stories) from my friends in other units.
Before the war, as we trained to care for our wounded, I told some soldiers, "If you feel like you're going to throw up, just step to the side, throw up and then get back to the mission. There's no shame in getting sick - it's a normal reaction - just get back in the game because lives are depending on it." In fact, no one I saw did get sick during a crisis - even while they were walking around picking up body parts. There's something that about the crisis of combat that makes you (at least temporarily) very focused.
Seems like the underlying theme was that being
in the military, horrible things happen to you.
and not just during battle..the people at home
betray you, or are suffering because *you* kjoined the military, your friends die, smiling people try and kill you, children try and kill you, you can't even use the bathroom
without someone trying to kill you... the "song is about
having to "kill somebody..and the show ended with
a character screamimg in pain from having his leg blown off by an IED....
Ohhh noooooooo! there's no intentional leftist pissant
propaganda going on *here*...
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