Posted on 03/04/2005 6:15:15 PM PST by Peach
Who Should Apologize to Whom? Amir Taheri
Where is the country that Bill Clinton, a former president of the United States, feels ideologically most at home?
Before you answer, here is the condition that such a country must fulfill: It must hold several consecutive elections that produce 70 percent majorities for liberals and progressives.
Well, if you thought of one of the Scandinavian countries or, perhaps, New Zealand or Canada, you are wrong.
Believe it or not, the country Bill Clinton so admires is the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Here is what Clinton said at a meeting on the margins of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, just a few weeks ago: Iran today is, in a sense, the only country where progressive ideas enjoy a vast constituency. It is there that the ideas that I subscribe to are defended by a majority.
And here is what Clinton had to say in a recent television interview with Charlie Rose:
Iran is the only country in the world that has now had six elections since the first election of President Khatami (in 1997). (It is) the only one with elections, including the United States, including Israel, including you name it, where the liberals, or the progressives, have won two-thirds to 70 percent of the vote in six elections: Two for president; two for the Parliament, the Majlis; two for the mayoralties. In every single election, the guys I identify with got two-thirds to 70 percent of the vote. There is no other country in the world I can say that about, certainly not my own.
So, while millions of Iranians, especially the young, look to the United States as a mode of progress and democracy, a former president of the US looks to the Islamic Republic as his ideological homeland.
But who are the guys Clinton identifies with?
There is, of course, President Muhammad Khatami who, speaking at a conference of provincial governors last week, called for the whole world to convert to Islam.
Human beings understand different affairs within the global framework that they live in, he said. But when we say that Islam belongs to all times and places, it is implied that the very essence of Islam is such that despite changes (in time and place) it is always valid.
There is also Khatamis brother, Muhammad-Reza, the man who, in 1979, led the students who seized the US Embassy in Tehran and held its diplomats hostage for 444 days. There is Massumeh Ebtekar, a poor mans pasionaria who was spokesperson for the hostage-holders in Tehran. There is also the late Ayatollah Sadeq Khalkhali, known to Iranians as Judge Blood.
Not surprisingly, Clintons utterances have been seized upon by the state-controlled media in Tehran as a means of countering President George W. Bushs claim that the Islamic Republic is a tyranny that oppresses the Iranians and threatens the stability of the region.
Clintons declaration of love for the mullas shows how ill informed even a US president could be.
Didnt anyone tell Clinton, when he was in the White House, that elections in the Islamic Republic were as meaningless as those held in the Soviet Union? Did he not know that all candidates had to be approved by the Supreme Guide, and that no one from opposition is allowed to stand? Did he not know that all parties are banned in the Islamic Republic, and that such terms as progressive and liberal are used by the mullas as synonyms for apostate, a charge that carries a death sentence?
More importantly, does he not know that while there is no democracy without elections there can be elections without democracy?
Clinton told his audience in Davos, as well as Charlie Rose, that during his presidency he had formally apologized on behalf of the United States for what he termed American crimes against Iran.
But what were those crimes? Clinton summed them thus: Its a sad story that really began in the 1950s when the United States deposed Mr. Mossadegh, who was an elected parliamentary democrat, and brought the Shah back and then he was overturned by the Ayatollah Khomeini, driving us into the arms of one Saddam Hussein. We got rid of the parliamentary democracy {there} back in the 50s; at least, that is my belief.
Duped by a myth spread by the Blame-America-First coalition, Clinton appears to have done little homework on Iran. The truth is that Iran in the 1950s was not a parliamentary democracy but a constitutional monarchy in which the Shah appointed, and dismissed, the prime minister. Mossadegh was named prime minister twice by the Shah and twice dismissed. In what way that meant that the US got rid of parliamentary democracy that did not exist is not clear.
There are at least two things that Clinton does not know about Iran and Iranians.
The first is that the claim that the US changed the course of Iranian history on a whim would be seen by most Iranians, a proud people, as an insult from an arrogant politician who exaggerates the powers of his nation more than half a century ago. The second thing that Clinton does not know is that in the Islamic Republic that he so admires, Mossadegh, far from being regarded as a national hero, is an object of intense vilification. One of the first acts of the mullas after seizing power in 1979 was to take the name of Mossadegh off a street in Tehran. They then sealed off the village where Mossadegh is buried to prevent his supporters from gathering at his tomb. History textbooks written by the mullas present Mossadegh as the son of a feudal family of exploiters who worked for the cursed Shah, and betrayed Islam.
Apologizing to the mullas for a wrong supposedly done to Mossadegh is like begging Josef Stalins pardon for a discourtesy toward Alexander Kerensky.
Clinton does not know that it was President Harry S. Trumans energetic intervention in 1946 that forced Stalin to withdraw his armies from northwestern Iran thus foiling a Communist attempt to dismember the Iranian state.
Clinton does not know that if anyone has to apologize it is the mullas who should apologize to both the Iranian and the American peoples. He does not appear to remember images of American diplomats paraded in front of TV cameras, blindfolded, and threatened with summary execution every day images that did lasting damage to the good name of Iran as a civilized nation.
Speaking of apologies, Clinton also ignores the fact that Iranian agents in Lebanon, led by the liberal progressive Ayatollah Ali-Akbar Mohtashami, organized and carried out a string of terrorist attacks in the 1980s that cost the lives of over 300 US citizens, including 240 Marines.
And does Clinton remember the dozens of American citizens who were held hostage by the mullas agents in Lebanon, sometimes for more than five years?
Clinton forgets that anti-Americanism, and hatred of the West in general, is the ideological backbone of Khomeinism; that that the devise of the mullas regime is Death to America, and that the American flag is burned or trampled under foot in thousands of official buildings throughout Iran every day?
Clinton claims that the mullas still kind of like the West in general, and America in particular. That must be as much news to the mullas as to anyone else.
The former president endorses another claim of the mullas that Saddam Hussein, the deposed Iraqi dictator, invaded Iran on behalf of the United States.
Clinton says: Most of the terrible things Saddam Hussein did in the 1980s he did with the full, knowing support of the United States government.
Dont be surprised if Clintons next apology is addressed to Saddam Hussein, another victim of American Imperialism!
LOL. And Clinton's heart was affected since his days in Hot Springs.
No, Clinton is running a campaign to replace Kofi Annan at the UN.
Ooooh. I wonder, Mo1. Is it the same? And that would be an additional reason to keep the tape under wraps. Cover for Clinton's dementia.
Over the line? I'll show you a line. One of my goals in life is to live long enough to piss on his grave.
I wondered about the Davos connection too. Are you very familiar with ArabNews? Are they a credible news source?
Prairie
I'm not terribly familiar with this news sources, although I've seen them posted here before.
I'd love to know if someone can confirm what Clinton said on the Charlie Rose show.
Isn't it amazing that we read of this not in the New York Times but in the Arab news? Please someone be sure Brit Hume bring this one up.
We need to get that link of Clinton's comments to FNC, Rush and Laura Ingraham, etc.
Ping to entire article and Mo1's excellent question/comment in #36.
Yes, that would be great, I'd thought of that too.
We are talking about Clinton here. The guy who wanted to have the SF dressed in ninja suits rappel into a terrorist camp to scare them.
He isn't real well acquainted with reality.
LOL. On the thread in the link, some posters have wondered if he had an advanced case of STD which has caused dementia.
What an absolute slug this weenie is.
The left never met a dictator they didn't like. And yes, let him go live in Iran. Perfect place for him.
So many burkas... so little time.
LOLOL!!
Not commonly understood is that while we have a process for removing a out of control Chief Executive by the two other branches of government is that in most countries that role is played by the military.
The military is considered the fourth branch of government and the guardian of the nation as a whole.
As to this:
Clintons declaration of love for the mullas shows how ill informed even a US president could be.
Didnt anyone tell Clinton, when he was in the White House, that elections in the Islamic Republic were as meaningless as those held in the Soviet Union?
Clinton knows full well what the elections are all about there. It is what the dems here hope and dream of.
We've long observed that the dem mantra of "count every vote" only means every dem vote (dead or alive, registered or not, multiple votes, etc, etc--by any means necessary), and eliminate every Republican vote just because. Clinton comes very close to admitting what I and others have long thought of his philosophy. I am not one bit surprised he admires those who rule with an iron fist. It's been plain to me that he lusted for such. So does HRC.
One more note: Lots of people from across the political spectrum attended the conference...Jay Nordlinger writes a daily diary of his thoughts and observations whenever he goes and lists many of those he talked to or just saw, so if anyone is interested in looking up who attended the event I recommend looking up his columns. There were lots of speeches and meetings and he, for example, did not attend the Eason Jordan speech so did not hear it first-hand, though he did hear about it from a couple of people who did. I don't remember him commenting on these Clinton comments so I don't think he caught his remarks, either.
Oh--before hitting post, I just thought of another note--to do with how many different types attend this annual event. Alexandra Polier, the Kerry rumored gal, was in the news again recently and I had occasion to review the article she finally wrote about the episode and she recounted how she first met Kerry in...Davos, Switzerland.
Interesting connections to Davos.
I'm saving this article to my HRC file. Since she and Bill proudly proclaimed it was a co-presidency, when she runs, I'll write a letter to the editor about this matter. Let the people see what "they" think about the mullahs and ruling with an iron fist. And let them be scared. Very scared.
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